it one of those thing it can last a year it could last 5 minutes

take the tip off and you will prob see a bent vein in the turbo. you will know when it goes as its a large bang car trys to stall and you have no power lol. mine went on the way to a car show last year just as i pulled onto the motorway lol

i got the new turbo from unit 18 and they sourced from main dealer.

there is a video of mine somewhere when it was sounding like a supercharger i will find it and post it back up

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/135963-help-bad-noise-coming-on-boost/page__view__findpost__p__1702499__fromsearch__1

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/135963-help-bad-noise-coming-on-boost/page__view__findpost__p__1702499__fromsearch__1

That's the sound! Bugger. I can expect this then..

I nabbed the pics from the same thread...

I'd better start saving up then.

oh dear

that noise started at around 6 pm on the friday night and the turbo blew sat morning on the way to the show..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

oh dear

that noise started at around 6 pm on the friday night and the turbo blew sat morning on the way to the show..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm expecting the bang at any minute.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/135963-help-bad-noise-coming-on-boost/page__view__findpost__p__1702499__fromsearch__1

That sounds awesome

@ skinny your turbo has gone very early, iirc your cars is an 06 plate what sort of mileage have you got and what boost are you running?

Edited 27 April, 201016 yr by vRSMart

That sounds awesome

@ skinny your turbo has gone very early, iirc your cars is an 06 plate what sort of mileage have you got and what boost are you running?

I've just tipped over into 38k on the clock and as for boost, I'll have to look at the graph from RS Tuning when I get home tonight. I do know that when Paul did the remap, he wound the boost down on purpose because he said the car produced a lot for some reason.

edit - I just found the original thread with the graph form RS Tuning. See what you think.

Here's the original thread too.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/135616-new-map-today-graph-attached/page__p__1698063__hl__rs%20tuning__fromsearch__1entry1698063

Edited 28 April, 201016 yr by skinnyman

So just reading your old thread, you ran 20psi peak on the old generic map, and your now running 17psi on the RS Tuning custom map. Doesn't seem too high to me.

An APR Stage 1 peaks at 17psi. The standard map peaks at 10psi.

If it is your turbo that's borked, then sorry to hear it. They should last as long as the engine, if not alot longer. So there must be a reason why yours has failed.

New turbo is £650 from BTN according to their catalogue: http://www.btnturbo.com/home/default.asp

Try SCM too: http://www.scmturbo.com/index.html

And AET also: http://www.aet-turbos.co.uk/turbo_turbos_turbocharger/home.php

Those are all the big name distributors I can think of right now.

The graph before RS Tuning put their map on (the green one rather than the red one) looks a bit odd as it was peaking at almost 190ft/lbs torque (15 more than standard) yet was making less than the book 180bhp. That extra torque and the way the torque fluctuates a lot on the standard map could probably be explained by it producing more boost than normal.

Have you owned the car from new? I'm wondering if a previous owner messed about with the wastegate actuator rod when it still had the standard map, oversped the turbo, and that has shortened the life of it.

Sorry to hear it looks like it's terminal. Could you maybe do a planned overdraft to cover it? Or if you have another car you can use then that gives you more time to look around for a cheaper option than buying a brand new turbo and getting it fitted.

Edited 28 April, 201016 yr by chicken_eyebrow

So just reading your old thread, you ran 20psi peak on the old generic map, and your now running 17psi on the RS Tuning custom map. Doesn't seem too high to me.

An APR Stage 1 peaks at 17psi. The standard map peaks at 10psi.

If it is your turbo that's borked, then sorry to hear it. They should last as long as the engine, if not alot longer. So there must be a reason why yours has failed.

New turbo is £650 from BTN according to their catalogue: http://www.btnturbo.com/home/default.asp

Try SCM too: http://www.scmturbo.com/index.html

And AET also: http://www.aet-turbos.co.uk/turbo_turbos_turbocharger/home.php

Those are all the big name distributors I can think of right now.

Right. If the worst comes to the worst, I'll need a new turbo. Thanks for the info on where to get them from Bodge. I'm a bit confused as to why some people can get them for £500 though. Anyway, what else will I need for the garage to do the job? Does the turbo come with a gasket for example and I'm sure that I read somewhere that I need to drain the coolant? If I can be prepared beforehand, then the job will be done quicker and the car can be back on the road.

I agree that the current map shouldn't have done anything and I'm pretty sure the old map that was on wasn't too bad - I must dig out the graph... I'm driving like miss daisy right now and even on short journeys I'm getting 35mpg. The threat of it all going up in smoke is making me a far more economical driver.

Like people have said you really need to get to the bottom of why the turbo failed, didn't someone on here recently have a failed turbo replaced only for the new one to die pretty quickly afterwards? Are you using a VAG specialist to carryout the work?

pm'd you. mine did exactly the same. hope it helps!

Like people have said you really need to get to the bottom of why the turbo failed, didn't someone on here recently have a failed turbo replaced only for the new one to die pretty quickly afterwards? Are you using a VAG specialist to carryout the work?

No, it's a local independent. Unlike some of the people on here who have access to motorways and huge urban spreads with lots of choice, I don't. Scarborough is quite isolated in many ways and even York is a 100 mile round trip. Newcastle is 2hrs away and so on. I grew up in Pontefract which right now would be great for accessing other members and resources.

As for the comment about finding out the cause of the problem in the first place, I agree totally but am stuck with what I've got at hand.

Here’s a list of possible turbo faults from SCM turbos in Huddersfield. Has anyone had some of these symptoms without the need to replace the turbo? I guess I’m hoping it’s not anything major and is simply a loose bolt/hose. Wishful thinking eh?

http://www.scmturbo.com/fault.htm

Turbo noisy

Damaged turbocharger - Determine reason for failure - repair or replace turbo

Air pipe into turbo restricted - Replace pipe

Air pipe from filter to turbo leaking - Check hoses for splits and tighten hose clips

Air pipe from turbo to inlet manifold leaking - Check hoses and intercooler for leaks and replace

Carbon build-up in turbo bearing housing - Change engine oil and filter-overhaul or replace turbo

Blockage in exhaust system - Replace silencers or catalytic converter

Exhaust gas leaking from manifold - Replace gasket or manifold - check bolts for tightness

Edited 29 April, 201016 yr by skinnyman

No, it's a local independent. Unlike some of the people on here who have access to motorways and huge urban spreads with lots of choice, I don't. Scarborough is quite isolated in many ways and even York is a 100 mile round trip. Newcastle is 2hrs away and so on. I grew up in Pontefract which right now would be great for accessing other members and resources.

As for the comment about finding out the cause of the problem in the first place, I agree totally but am stuck with what I've got at hand.

That's a bummer mate, hope you get it sorted.

That is early for a turbo to let go. What spec oil do you use and have you always used that spec?

It would be worth while checking all the oil lines to the turbo are clear before fitting the new one.

Edited 29 April, 201016 yr by vRSMart

That is early for a turbo to let go. What spec oil do you use and have you always used that spec?

It would be worth while checking all the oil lines to the turbo are clear before fitting the new one.

How quickly could the incorrect oil kill the turbo? I'm wondering if the garage I use have put the wrong oil in at the last service - I'm on variable by the way.

Not what i was thinking then. If you had changed from fixed to variable this can throw up quite a bit of crud which could block the oil feeds. Yours should be ok though 5w30 is very thin.

I spoke to turbo technics about a recon and they recon about £250 if its just basic internals and bearings and not cracked anywhere...

I'm going to try them when i get mine off

Update :

The garage just called and they can't find anything wrong with the car. They say there's nothing leaking anywhere, there's no smoke, they can't find anything at all and say they wouldn't take it any further. They are happy to put a new turbo on, but say that if it were them, they'd not bother unless something else happens. This is the second opinion I've had now from a mechanic and they say the same thing. Both opinions say the noise is there and that they say it's unusual, but the car is healthy, has been making the noise for a while and that why throw money away when there's no need.

What's your take on all of this then? I'm driving a vRS that sounds like it has a supercharger on it, but with two 'professional' opinions telling me not to worry, what would you do?

strange but if whinning then it will fail at some point you cant see the fault as it in the turbo might last months might last weeks

have they taken the tip off to inspect the veins as one might be slightly bent thats what causes the noise.

p.s remove tip and take a pic of the inside of the turbo and post on here

strange but if whinning then it will fail at some point you cant see the fault as it in the turbo might last months might last weeks

have they taken the tip off to inspect the veins as one might be slightly bent thats what causes the noise.

p.s remove tip and take a pic of the inside of the turbo and post on here

No, they said it was too difficult to get to and would require more investigation. Can I do this myself on the drive from above as I've no other way of doing it? If so, I can do this one evening and post a photo or two.

yes mate you can its a 5 mm allen key

remove the rubber tip part by removing the clip and then remove the allen key bolt holding the metal tip to turbo and wiggle off not to hard but give yourself an hour to do it buddy

yes mate you can its a 5 mm allen key

remove the rubber tip part by removing the clip and then remove the allen key bolt holding the metal tip to turbo and wiggle off not to hard but give yourself an hour to do it buddy

Right, I'll have a go this week if family allows, time of an evening is pretty tight. Needs doing though as it isn't right and no matter what they say, there's something wrong. I need someone nearby with a garage who actually likes cars. I know for a fact that they do it as a job, not as a passion. Thanks for the input Clive, I'll try to get an hour to have a look.

no worries buddy get some pics of the inner part of the turbo :thumbup: