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Is that inc VAT? I agree that new makes more sense, but budget constraints may come into play. I'm not daft enough to buy a cheap copy, but dealership prices may be out of then question too. Tough decisions to be made I think.....

Phoned up the stealers today. they quoted me £531.71 plus vat

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thats correct but a bit of haggling may sway them to chucking you a bit of discount seen as your spending £700

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thats correct but a bit of haggling may sway them to chucking you a bit of discount seen as your spending £700

You'd think so wouldn't you? I got a price for the turbo itself just like dazoctaviavrs did and got the same price. When I asked for a ball park figure for the whole fitting, coolant etc they came back with about £1800 or thereabouts. :'(

I think my next step is to let a friend's son (who's a mechanic) take the turbo off, I'll send it to Turbo Technics for a refurb and then get the same lad to fit things back together. This means the car will be off the road for well over a week, so not ideal.

Well, actually, I have another option. I buy a brand new turbo, let him fit it and then sell mine to someone on here who's going to do the K03s hybrid thing that Flybikeslee is doing at the moment. They keep their car on the road, my car gets fixed quicker and the whoever buys the turbo can sell theirs on because it is a fully working unit. Bingo! Everyone's a winner!

Just so I can gauge how much I need pay a mechanic, can you tell me very roughly how long it takes to take the unit off and refit it? How many man hours would you say is needed to do this?

£1800 for everything they must be having a laugh!!!

AFAIK it's just bolt straight on, the oil and coolant should be changed at the same time, the only issues being that it's quite difficult to get access to the turbo, the intake pipework would need to come off and the car needs to be up on ramps for the downpipe to be removed and the turbo to be unbolted from the manifold. I would've thought it wouldn't take more than a few hours to do the whole lot?

The "swapping it for a working turbo" idea sounds good, if you can't find someone on here that's planning to hybrid their turbo then punt about on SeatCupraNet or UKMkIVs.

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£1800 for everything they must be having a laugh!!!

AFAIK it's just bolt straight on, the oil and coolant should be changed at the same time, the only issues being that it's quite difficult to get access to the turbo, the intake pipework would need to come off and the car needs to be up on ramps for the downpipe to be removed and the turbo to be unbolted from the manifold. I would've thought it wouldn't take more than a few hours to do the whole lot?

The "swapping it for a working turbo" idea sounds good, if you can't find someone on here that's planning to hybrid their turbo then punt about on SeatCupraNet or UKMkIVs.

Yeah, having a laugh seems right. Also, the independent I normally use couldn't be bothered as they said they have so much work, they don't want to do any difficult jobs any more. :S

I'm not sure about putting it on SeatCupraNet or UKMkIVs as they don't know me and might think it's a bit dodgy selling a duff turbo. If someone on here was interested, at least they'd know the story and that I'm not up to anything underhand. What do you reckon it migh be worth as a unit for refurbing? Some on ebay have gone for over the £160 mark and it states that they need a refurb or are ideal for turning into a hybrid. The casing itself has only covered 38k, so is relatively new.

Also, how do I join Freedom so I'm not breaking any rules if I do need to sell?

If anyone on the other forums thinks its fishy just post a link to the thread on here so they can see it.

You have to pay a £12 annual fee to be a freedom member, if you click the Subscriptions link at the top it will take you to a payment page.

If you ebay it then obviously price it competitively, it would help if the turbo was removed early on so you know exactly what the problem is and can mention it or put pics on the ebay ad.

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If anyone on the other forums thinks its fishy just post a link to the thread on here so they can see it.

You have to pay a £12 annual fee to be a freedom member, if you click the Subscriptions link at the top it will take you to a payment page.

If you ebay it then obviously price it competitively, it would help if the turbo was removed early on so you know exactly what the problem is and can mention it or put pics on the ebay ad.

Freedom's paid. :thumbup:

I've worked out using simple maths - the only kind I know - that if I buy a new turbo and if I can sell the original for £150, then that'll cost me £186 more than having the turbo refurbed, (assuming the refurb is simple). If the car is off the road for too long, I'll need to hire a car for a few days anyway for work, so to me I'm thinking that it makes sense just to buy a new turbo and have it fitted asap. What do you reckon?

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you are better off getting the turbo refurb buddy i have been in talks with cr and td about it and they say they will replace the core and uprate the bearings etc etc in that price so you will in the end have a much stronger turbo at a fraction of the cost of a new one that still has rubbish thrust bearing

cr turbo will do the full core and uprated all the bits for £349 and they collect and drop off in that price

give them a call

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you are better off getting the turbo refurb buddy i have been in talks with cr and td about it and they say they will replace the core and uprate the bearings etc etc in that price so you will in the end have a much stronger turbo at a fraction of the cost of a new one that still has rubbish thrust bearing

cr turbo will do the full core and uprated all the bits for £349 and they collect and drop off in that price

give them a call

Sorry to sound stupid, but what's the full name of the company?

No, they said it was too difficult to get to and would require more investigation. Can I do this myself on the drive from above as I've no other way of doing it? If so, I can do this one evening and post a photo or two.

You need to find a new garage.....even working on flat ground, with the car on ramps the TIP can be removed and refitted in less than 30 mins.

TBH though checking the compressor side of the turbo is only doing half the job, the problem could be on the exhaust turbine side of the turbo....it does'nt take much to damage/bend the exhaust turbine blades when you consider they could be working @ temperatures well above 1300 degrees centigrade (the highest temp I know of was 2000 degrees centigrade).

Bill.

the company name is

cr turbo's or turbo dynamics buddy

with regards to checking the inlet side you will do this becuse the whistling noise would be a bent inlet vein not exhaust vein ( thats what i was told) could be wrong

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Apart from the people on here, Turbo Dynamics/CR Turbos were amongst the few people who both believed what I was on about and that it is a problem that needs to be fixed. I'll speak to the mechanic who could help me tonight or tomorrow and try to arrange a time to get the ball rolling.

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You need to find a new garage.....even working on flat ground, with the car on ramps the TIP can be removed and refitted in less than 30 mins.

TBH though checking the compressor side of the turbo is only doing half the job, the problem could be on the exhaust turbine side of the turbo....it does'nt take much to damage/bend the exhaust turbine blades when you consider they could be working @ temperatures well above 1300 degrees centigrade (the highest temp I know of was 2000 degrees centigrade).

Bill.

I agree with you there Bill. They've let me down and have pushed things on about a fortnight due to not being able to fit me in straight away.

As for checking the outlet of the turbo, that'll have to wait 'till next week probably. It's times like this it would be nice to be able to run two cars and have the luxury of taking the vRS of the road for a week to sort it all out.

where abouts in the country are you???????

where abouts in the country are you???????

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where abouts in the country are you???????

Way up north in sunny Scarborough.

My vRS recently went for a service at a VAG independent specialist & as I drove into the garage, they told me the turbo was about to go. They had a Seat Leon 1.8t there and that sounded very quiet compared to mine. Had the car for about a year, was fine when I got it but over the past few months, it had begun to sound just like a supercharger. The turbo got replaced for £800 including new pipes. Expensive, but it is now so quiet, I miss the supercharger sound. 1 week later, I went back because it was surging on boost (was doing this before the turbo was replaced). They diagnosed a faulty N75 valve, replaced for £50 & now she drives beautifully, so smooth.

So, in the past month, 4 new coil packs, new turbo, N75 & full service has cost £1200. Expensive, but definately worth it. Reason for coil packs was it was only firing on 3 cylinders so treated her to 4 new ones.

On a 55 plate with 70k, always let it warm up & cool down.

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UPDATE :

The turbo was been taken off on Monday and it didn't look good apparently. There aren't any photos though, as the unit was boxed up before I could get to it. The description was that it looked as if something had been through the turbo. There was a hole in one of the veins that looked like it had been drilled and the others were scored and twisted. It was supposed to be collected yesterday by Turbo Technics, but they didn't turn up. They say it will be collected today and then we'll see what the news is when they see it.

What could have caused that do you think? Sounds odd that something had been through and done so much damage.

are you having it repaired or hybrid??? what price did they say??

as for the state of the turbo i guess just a big time failure buddy you would have seen this if you took the tip off lol

Depends what vanes they were talking about, if its the compressor side then something has got in the air intake pipework and gone through it, if it's the exhaust side then something from the engine has gone down the exhaust manifold and gone through it.

They're very delicate and operate at very high RPMs so even a little bit of dirt or grit if it gets into the air intake pipework can cause a lot of damage to the compressor.

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Depends what vanes they were talking about, if its the compressor side then something has got in the air intake pipework and gone through it, if it's the exhaust side then something from the engine has gone down the exhaust manifold and gone through it.

They're very delicate and operate at very high RPMs so even a little bit of dirt or grit if it gets into the air intake pipework can cause a lot of damage to the compressor.

Agree with above :thumbup:

If the exhaust turbine side is damaged then the head may need to come off and investigate valves, valve seats etc.

But if its only the compressor side of the turbo thats damaged, then that means that what ever caused the damage to the compressor blades may still be in the boost system pipework.....up stream of the engine.

My guess would be that if you remove the intercooler you will prob find what ever it was that caused the damage trapped in the IC matrix.

Bill.

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I'll let you all know when Turbo Technics get back to me as to what they think could have caused the damage. The courier didn't turn up again today, so I had to out it in the post myself. :doh:

To be fair to TT though, they were very apologetic and said one of their turbos ended up in Scandanavia recently because of this company and they were going to have to foot the bill for a new unit. Let's hope when it's done they can get it back to me in one piece.

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Update

Right. The turbo is fecked. I need a new one. They've had it in bits and say there's nothing they can salvage. So, big question is, what next? They're sending the bits back so there'll be plenty of photos for you all to look at. They reckon overboosting is the issue. Not happy. :'(

Not good news, sorry to hear that mate :doh:

Any idea what boost the car was making before and after the remap?

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