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Has anyone with a FL vrs dsg checked to see if the skoda has the launch control?

No it doesnt

launch control is only the petrol models I thought?!

It's 5 litres in the 6 speed DSG box

Would be of interest to know the break out of the bill for changing your DSG gear oil

How much was the price per litre for oil and the price for the filter?

and what was the labor charge for doing this job?

Assume the charge for changing the 7speed gear oil will be no more than

for the 6 speed unit.

I've just had the oil changed by an independant VAG specialist on my 6 speed DSG. It was £125. You can do it cheaper yourself if you make the filling tool and have VCDS.

The breakdown they gave me was £25 labour (not bad given they have to wait for it to come up to temperature), and £100ish for the (genuine) oil and filter.

The DSG is great I have one and suites me for what I use it for. There is a very very slight delay when pulling away but when you get used to it its probably just as quick as the man of the line.

I use the plappy faddles most of the time apart from around town or if I just want to be lazy, leave it in that mode on the motorway.

How is everyone going on with DSG in the diesel VRS?

I was going for manual and test drove one. However another dealer has just let us try the DSG in a superb with the 170 engine.

Must admit it seemed smooth and maybe a worthwhile option, the Superb didnt have paddles but i believe the VRS does have flappy paddles?

Also i would then go for Bluetooth and the multifunction steering wheel.

utterly brilliant in my opinion. Done just of 2.5k miles, totally love it, so easy and smooth to drive.. given the mix of driving I do (with a lot of M25 type commuting) it's perfect. no regrets at all..

No it doesnt

You sure? Mine does - just make sure its fully up to temp!

You sure? Mine does - just make sure its fully up to temp!

I've not seen anything about this in the handbook. How do you activate it?

I doubt you will find anything in the handbook which will condone what will effectively be abuse of the gearbox. I have seen something on you tube about launch control on DSG equipped cars, something on the lines of select S on the selector lever and with your foot on the brakes floor the throttle, allow the revs to get high enough( not sure of the revs) and then sidestep the brake and away you go!!

Ian

Ok, been googling, and almost everywhere states that (if your car has launch control, and not all appear to do so) you put the selector into S and turn off the ESP... You can't turn off the ESP in mine, only the traction control and as it's a bit wet out there I'm not inclined to go out and test it all

If I'm honest, I'm not really that fussed, I'm not into traffic light GPs and am struggling to think of situations where I need to shave half a second or so from the 0-60 dash... I bought a diesel "automatic", not a race car

With loads of traffic lights now being fitted with combined Redlight/Speed Cameras, you have to ask yourself is it worth it?

There's a crossroads in Guildford which was fitted with just Redlight cameras, but now they've been altered to combine the two! At £60 + 3pts per offence.. It's an easy way to lose your licence.

And the car's so darn fast it's easy to lose it that way too. I must admit I prefer the 6 speeder to the seven in other DSG's I've tried.

Would be of interest to know the break out of the bill for changing your DSG gear oil

How much was the price per litre for oil and the price for the filter?

and what was the labor charge for doing this job?

Assume the charge for changing the 7speed gear oil will be no more than

for the 6 speed unit.

Sorry mate the car is now sold and the receipt away with it. Only thing i remember is it was 1 hours labour on taxi rate @ £40 per hour. The 7 speed DSG uses dry clutches so not sure about servicing on that.

Edited 8 May, 201016 yr by numptie-boy

there is only 1.5 litres of oil in the 7 speed so presume that wouldn't need servicing just like a manual or normal auto?

Test drove the DSG just before the manual both in the CR TDI and hated it. Sure it was smooth (totally) at changing gear - in fact the only way to know it had changed gear was to watch the rev counter but in a diesel it didn't make any sense as in Sport it red lined it and bypassed the torqey mid range completely and left it in normal auto and it insisted in chugging everywhere in 6th gear at barely above idle RPM's.....really annoying.

I've read that the 7spd DSG is a lot better in this regard but getting into the manual after the DSG was such a relief as I could pre-empt hills etc by dropping down a cog wheras the DSG was caught out every time and needed flooring to get it to kick down, which it then did by 2 gears and then was off like a scolded cat. And I'm not going to mention if you want to set off in a hurry from a junction from stationary.....in short, don't even try.

But that's just my opinion. Many people love them, but considering it felf worse to drive (manuals are nice for lazy driving only IMO), is worse on fuel, cost more to buy, is a tax band higher and is slower to get going I couldn't see the point. Might have been better if the one I drove had flappy paddles so I could use manual mode as it only had a gear knob that you had to push forwards and back.

Went for DSG in the end, i drive tractors all day with semi automatic gearboxes so might aswell have the same style of car gearbox!

On the tractors we have much more control, can set at what RPM the gears kick up and down on a rotary dial. Can also program maximum gear, minimum gear, just auto up changes, just down changes, auto in reverse etc. But then we do have 24 forward and 24 reverse gears to choose from! Like the car we also can nudge the gear shifter to change gear or use steerwheel controls,

I liked having the option on the DSG to use as an auto or manual, must admit the biggest problem seemed to be it changed up to soon in Drive and rev to much in Sport. Should make the software talk to maxidot so customer can tweak the settings. I know Byteshooter now has an option to "remap" DSG gearbox so that might be a possibility, maybe one of the forum sponsors can tell us more?

Hi btccseat, sounds like you use the good old dyna6 Massey gearbox, I used to drive tractors for a living, mostly john deeres but the odd massey for a friend, there seems to be a lot of toing and froing on this site about how best to run in a new car, though I think it best to read up on the MF handbook how to run in an engine and apply that to your new car when you get it, as for the DSG change up points, the control unit is supposed to use fuzzy logic so that it learns your driving style and adapts the gear change points to your driving style. Good luck with your new car when you get it, I'm sure you will have lot's of good times in it.

Ian

Test drove the DSG just before the manual both in the CR TDI and hated it. Sure it was smooth (totally) at changing gear - in fact the only way to know it had changed gear was to watch the rev counter but in a diesel it didn't make any sense as in Sport it red lined it and bypassed the torqey mid range completely and left it in normal auto and it insisted in chugging everywhere in 6th gear at barely above idle RPM's.....really annoying.

I've read that the 7spd DSG is a lot better in this regard but getting into the manual after the DSG was such a relief as I could pre-empt hills etc by dropping down a cog wheras the DSG was caught out every time and needed flooring to get it to kick down, which it then did by 2 gears and then was off like a scolded cat. And I'm not going to mention if you want to set off in a hurry from a junction from stationary.....in short, don't even try.

But that's just my opinion. Many people love them, but considering it felf worse to drive (manuals are nice for lazy driving only IMO), is worse on fuel, cost more to buy, is a tax band higher and is slower to get going I couldn't see the point. Might have been better if the one I drove had flappy paddles so I could use manual mode as it only had a gear knob that you had to push forwards and back.

All my sentiments exactly.

Hi btccseat, sounds like you use the good old dyna6 Massey gearbox, I used to drive tractors for a living, mostly john deeres but the odd massey for a friend, there seems to be a lot of toing and froing on this site about how best to run in a new car, though I think it best to read up on the MF handbook how to run in an engine and apply that to your new car when you get it, as for the DSG change up points, the control unit is supposed to use fuzzy logic so that it learns your driving style and adapts the gear change points to your driving style. Good luck with your new car when you get it, I'm sure you will have lot's of good times in it.

Ian

Got it in one, drive a massey 6480 dyna6 most of the time!

I suppose it will soon learn my "style" of driving!

I have a byteshooter but never done any DSG tuning with it.

I had my 1st test drive in a vrs tdi with dsg and i have to agree, it didn’t do anything for me, very nice in normal mode but sport didn’t feel very good to me. It seemed to hold the rev to high before it shifts.

I can see how it would work for some people just not for my driving style

If you want to cane the engine then it's best that you have the flappy paddles with the DSG box, as it allows you far greater control/finesse than if you let it do it on its own.

I've found (albeit with a petrol variant) that on steep down grades (>30%) that it does sort of work it out, but I usually override it to how I would do it on a manual car, I also tend to use manual mode when doing quick overtakes as well as I think it doesn't quite know what to do for some reason.

So overall; Yes it does have its weaknesses, but I still like it, except in bad weather like snow & ice when it's absolutely crap!

Edited 9 May, 201016 yr by Evening Star

If you want to cane the engine then it's best that you have the flappy paddles with the DSG box, as it allows you far greater control/finesse than if you let it do it on its own.

I've found (albeit with a petrol variant) that on steep down grades (>30%) that it does sort of work it out, but I usually override it to how I would do it on a manual car, I also tend to use manual mode when doing quick overtakes as well as I think it doesn't quite know what to do for some reason.

So overall; Yes it does have its weaknesses, but I still like it, except in bad weather like snow & ice when it's absolutely crap!

Got to agree with above, snow and ice: it's the worst thing ever.

It's not perfect by any means but how much hard driving do we do? 5%? When I'm in a hurry I pick the gears, for overtaking, slowing into corners etc. The rest of the time I'm happy to let the computer do the gears.

I'm due to change in November and it'll be DSG again for me, even with it's flaws.

Got to agree with above, snow and ice: it's the worst thing ever.

I expected problems with the DSG box in snow and ice and was surprised how well it coped - albeit with the more humble 2L PD engine.

Wonder if its a case of combined characteristics of engine and gearbox?

I changed from a manual Saab 9-3 to my DSG equipped vRS during the bad weather and to be honest, they were both rubbish in the snow. The main problem was the 225 wide summer tyres, not the gearbox...

I changed from a manual Saab 9-3 to my DSG equipped vRS during the bad weather and to be honest, they were both rubbish in the snow. The main problem was the 225 wide summer tyres, not the gearbox...

You're entirely right on the tyre front. I stay at the bottom of a moderately steep incline. No gritters and everyone drove in on the snow without clearing it, compacted it and it turned to ice about 4inches thick, decent tyres would certainly have helped but the way the clutch comes in is just to severe to have any hope. Eventually had to dig a 100yds of track to get it out. Still prefer over manual though!