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My Scout has now done 23,000 miles an all is almost well, apart from an odd problem with one of the brake discs. As you can see from the picture one disc has corroded quite badly, whilst the others all seem to be ok. Has anyone else had this problem? I know discs are not covered under warrenty, but on an 08 Scout with this kind of milage I would not expect this. Would I have a case with Skoda to replace?

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They All look bad to me !

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They All look bad to me !

It might be the way I have taken the pictures, the corrosion on the 3 I think are OK is actually on the rim of the disc and not on the face, the only one with corrosion on the face is the Rear nearside and this was the one that National Tyres said was bad this week when they fitted my new tyres.

Well my car is not garaged ,three and a half years old ,and none look like that. looks like they have been sprayed with salt water .

Looks fine, as long as the braking surface isnt pitted then its not a problem!

Well, your R/N/S appears to have about a 1cm wide band of corrosion. This indicates that the pad in not making even contact with the disc. One of your front discs also looks a bit pitted. It may be that you brake very lightly (thus not keeping the discs 'clean') or you may have a problem with the caliper (sticking). Either way, I think you will need to replace the axle set of discs and pads in due course.

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Well, your R/N/S appears to have about a 1cm wide band of corrosion. This indicates that the pad in not making even contact with the disc. One of your front discs also looks a bit pitted. It may be that you brake very lightly (thus not keeping the discs 'clean') or you may have a problem with the caliper (sticking). Either way, I think you will need to replace the axle set of discs and pads in due course.

mmm.. I had wondered about a sticky caliper. Braking lightly is unlikley ;)

Disappointing as the discs on my Outback lasted 2 pad changes. Will see what the stealer says next week.

I'd give the car a few hard 70 to 10mph stops on a clear piece of motorway or similar with no traffic around to clean up the discs.

Also worth releasing the handbrake, then pulling it up so it is just touching, but not on significantly and driving a little bit down the road. This should start to clean the surface of the disc and give you an idea of why it's wearing like that.

mmm.. I had wondered about a sticky caliper. Braking lightly is unlikley ;)

Disappointing as the discs on my Outback lasted 2 pad changes.
Will see what the stealer says next week.

I have just changed my originals at 123,000

your NSR looks to have a crack in it

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Thanks for the suggestions, I will give it a go down the M50 one evening this week to see if that helps. I would be interested to know what kind of mileage others are getting out of their discs. It seem to me that you have no chance of proving a disc is faulty or as a result of a faulty caliper as Skoda will always claim its normal wear and tear. I had not really bargined for a new set of discs and pads having just forked out for a new set of tyres, especially on a 2 year old car with average miles.

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So the bad news is my dealer said that the rear discs needed replacing, he says this not covered under warrenty, even though he agrees that they should not corrode like this on a 2 year old car with this kind of milage. Does anyone think this is worth asking Skoda directly about? I am picking the car up after the work has been done this afternoon and am expecting a heafty bill :(

Any indication that the corrosion was due to a manufacturing fault?

So the bad news is my dealer said that the rear discs needed replacing, he says this not covered under warrenty, even though he agrees that they should not corrode like this on a 2 year old car with this kind of milage. Does anyone think this is worth asking Skoda directly about? I am picking the car up after the work has been done this afternoon and am expecting a heafty bill :(

did you not consider changing them yourself? I got caught like this on the front discs of my freelander, second time did them myself in under 1 hour for both sides saves a fortune and discs should be available fro somewhere like GMF in Coleford

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did you not consider changing them yourself? I got caught like this on the front discs of my freelander, second time did them myself in under 1 hour for both sides saves a fortune and discs should be available fro somewhere like GMF in Coleford

Have to admit that this did not cross my mind, the car was in for its sevice anyway so I figured it was better to get them done there and then as I have a 2,500 mile round trip to France coming up next week. But will certainly consider this next time. I have been doing some googling and it would appear that VAG discs are notorious for poor quality metal and corrosion issues, especially on the rear. I guess I will have to be more careful in future when washing the car and coming home in the rain to use the handbrake and make sure they are dry.

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Any indication that the corrosion was due to a manufacturing fault?

I will be asking to see the old discs when I collect the car later today, I am reasonably confident the dealer will be up front with me so will get their opinion. Not really sure how you would define or prove a manufacturing fault in this case?

I would say if there was a crack, then there was a manufacturing problem.

Seeing the backsides (!) of the disc may also help understand what might have been going on.

Are they putting new pads on too?

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I would say if there was a crack, then there was a manufacturing problem.

Seeing the backsides (!) of the disc may also help understand what might have been going on.

Are they putting new pads on too?

Thanks for the tip, they said they were 'refacing' the pads

Ive had rear discs go at low mileage on a Citroen, main reason & it was quite common was using the car most of the time with just me in it & an empty boot. Thus when you brake the rear is light & the rear brakes dont do alot of work & as a result the discs corrode. Not sure this would apply to a Skoda

My disks are not the best. This was because my car had been stood at the docks for a while. This resulted in pitting beneath the pads. I really should have insisted they change them from new. For the first few hundred miles you could feel pulsing under heavy braking.

That has now gone, but the pitting which is similar to yours is still evident. Although it is only an area pad shaped. You do look to have shaved a LOT of your disks for 20K. Some lipping there.

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So back from the dealer with the old rear discs in the boot. They have said that they should not have worn like that, but are unable to offer an explanation. The calipers were fine. The said that if they tried to claim it under warrenty then it would be rejected automatically as a 'wear and tear' item. However, they have suggested taking some photos and contacting Skoda directly. Here some pics after they were removed. (By the way excellent service from Startin in Worcester, has restored my faith in dealers after a bad experiance at Robert Blandford in Glous.)

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Keep us updated mate as to how you get on with Skoda directly.

Will be interesting to see how you get on.

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Now done just over 200 miles on the new discs and already the nearside rear is displaying the same problem as the old one :(

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The offside rear looks fine

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So its back to the garage this week. They said they had checked the calipers, but this looks like a caliper problem to me. Hopefuly covered under warrenty and I can get it sorted and a refund for the parts and labour to date.

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If not the calliper, then either the pad (which would be odd as that should wear out eventually to a point where it rubs) or potentially the calliper carrier, which could be slightly out of shape.

I have a similar issue with my near side front disc and my car has only done 3500 miles!

I checked the caliper and it moves freely, and the pads are OK too. Not sure what to do about it, so might just ignore it (brakes OK) and accept that it will probably mean replacing the discs earlier than should be needed.

Will keep an eye on this thread incase you come up with an answer.

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If not the calliper, then either the pad (which would be odd as that should wear out eventually to a point where it rubs) or potentially the calliper carrier, which could be slightly out of shape.

The dealer said on the phone today after I e-mailed the pictures that it was probably the pad. Which is rather odd as they have already charged me for refacing them :wonder: Still awaiting a response from Skoda customer services...

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