Ok im not quite sure how this works, if the Ko3s turbos that we have on our Mk1 vRS's are good for about 225-230ish bhp, How can adding something like a new intake manifold, or other bolt ons net you more power????

I was looking at the ADB intakes and they claim gains of 12-20bhp extra, but sureley if your already at 225 your not going to reach 245 because the turbo will be the limiting factor or have i got that wrong?

very true doesnt matter what you add you wont get much more peak but you will get changes through the mid if mapped altered

abd mannifold on k03s shows no improvements i have one

Ok im not quite sure how this works, if the Ko3s turbos that we have on our Mk1 vRS's are good for about 225-230ish bhp, How can adding something like a new intake manifold, or other bolt ons net you more power????

I was looking at the ADB intakes and they claim gains of 12-20bhp extra, but sureley if your already at 225 your not going to reach 245 because the turbo will be the limiting factor or have i got that wrong?

i thought the standard turbo unit on the octy was a ko3 not the ko3s ............. ko3s have ko4 internals in them , anyway the ko3 will be pushed to the 250 mark where as ko3s as ive been told starts at 225. The audi tt and cupra r use the ko4 , so if u have a ko3s it will go alot more than 245 bhp cupra n audi use ko4 but they stuck these internals in a ko3 housing OR SO I WAS TOLD FFS

Edited 29 May, 201016 yr by borris

older 1.8T had the K03 in them but the vRS has the K03s along with 02> 1.8T so I beleive.

all 1.8 T engines of 190 an under I beleive had the K03s in and the 210 225 ones were K04.

I spose you could push the K03s to 240 250 bhp but I would say it wont last long as even tho it has K04 internals the holes lettin aire in are smaller are they not?

TBH tho BHP is really just a figure. get the delivery right and plenty of torque and thats it lol.

isnt the std Intake mani good enought anyway?

i thought the standard turbo unit on the octy was a ko3 not the ko3s ............. ko3s have ko4 internals in them , anyway the ko3 will be pushed to the 250 mark where as ko3s as ive been told starts at 225 as per the audi tt and cupra r use them , so if u have a ko3s it will go alot more than 245 bhp cupra n audi use ko4 but they stuck these internals in a ko3 housing

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might wanna do your homework lol

u have got it all wrong with the above

before you come on and tell us what these turbos can and cant do and what cars there on etc etc do a search and it will give you all the info needed and then you wont look silly writing the above lol

Edited 29 May, 201016 yr by westallc

older 1.8T had the K03 in them but the vRS has the K03s along with 02> 1.8T so I beleive.

all 1.8 T engines of 190 an under I beleive had the K03s in and the 210 225 ones were K04.

I spose you could push the K03s to 240 250 bhp but I would say it wont last long as even tho it has K04 internals the holes lettin aire in are smaller are they not?

TBH tho BHP is really just a figure. get the delivery right and plenty of torque and thats it lol.

isnt the std Intake mani good enought anyway?

ok didnt know that but yes if you have a good remap you can just get more torque if thats what you want without pushing the turbo to the limits nick (R-TECH) told me about one he done didnt change the bhp just torque and it **** the bloke up that much he got rid of the vrs pmsl but yes i agree standard manifold is just as good as others no need to change it unless you have gone all out on major engine mods.

i thought the standard turbo unit on the octy was a ko3 not the ko3s ............. ko3s have ko4 internals in them , anyway the ko3 will be pushed to the 250 mark where as ko3s as ive been told starts at 225 as per the audi tt and cupra r use them , so if u have a ko3s it will go alot more than 245 bhp cupra n audi use ko4 but they stuck these internals in a ko3 housing

you put a ko4 on ur stock manifold then without doin anything else to it and see what happens lol done my homework thanks

you put a ko4 on ur stock manifold then without doin anything else to it and see what happens lol done my homework thanks

what happens?

modified intake manifolds flow better its like porting a cylinder head, it performs better and will be better than standard parts if done correctly...

Edited 29 May, 201016 yr by sweedish

how could possible of done your homework when you think the vrs has a k03 and the k03s is on the 225 engines

and the k03s is just a k03 with k04 internals

and a k03 will push 250

and a k03s will do more than that

and a cupra and audi use a k04 in k03 housing

sorry to sound rude but you havent a clue what your talking about :(

also if you put a k04 on a k03/k03s manni it would have to be the k04-001 wich is the only one that fits as the others use a different manni ( you prob already know this )

and without a map and bigger injectors and maf etc etc will see no difference apart fromt he car running rich lol

i know they dont fit just wanted to see what borris was thinking

Edited 29 May, 201016 yr by sweedish

sweedish i know you know lol

cant understand what he is trying to tell us.

must wait for an answer as i must have just put the wrong turbo on my car lol

how could possible of done your homework when you think the vrs has a k03 and the k03s is on the 225 engines

and the k03s is just a k03 with k04 internals

and a k03 will push 250

and a k03s will do more than that

and a cupra and audi use a k04 in k03 housing

sorry to sound rude but you havent a clue what your talking about :(

read it properly u muppet didnt say cupra uses ko3s did i der go back to school and learn to read again as mine has the ko3 on it i thought they all had ko3 turbos so my bad as i hve been told by tunning shops that what the ko3s are then maybe you need to have your tunning place hhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmm think not as you cant even read threads right we all make mistakes and learn sumit knew everyday like reading

cool lol

yes not sure what borris means either

in that case im doing audi for mis-sellling me a 225hp ko4 20v engine, borris you are incorrect

'read it properly u muppet didnt say cupra uses ko3s did i der go back to school and learn to read again as mine has the ko3 on it i thought they all had ko3 turbos so my bad as i hve been told by tunning shops that what the ko3s are then maybe you need to have your tunning place hhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmm think not as you cant even read threads right we all make mistakes and learn sumit knew everyday like reading '

dude, commas make it easier for us to follow...

Edited 29 May, 201016 yr by sweedish

i thought the standard turbo unit on the octy was a ko3 not the ko3s ............. ko3s have ko4 internals in them , anyway the ko3 will be pushed to the 250 mark where as ko3s as ive been told starts at 225 as per the audi tt and cupra r use them , so if u have a ko3s it will go alot more than 245 bhp cupra n audi use ko4 but they stuck these internals in a ko3 housing

did i read wrong

did i read wrong

ahahah no you didnt, well done

Edited 29 May, 201016 yr by boomsly

in that case im doing audi for mis-sellling me a 225hp ko4 20v engine, borris you are incorrect

ok maybe wording slighlty off in thread what i meant to say is yes thay use the ko4 audi etc what i meant to say was i was told the ko3s was ko4 in sumit else thats all if iam wrong iam wrong just saying what ive been told by tunners thats all ffs my bad

tuners have told you incorrectly, you can get hybrids of the ko3s and ko4s maybe thats what was meant?

you should have a ko3s in your car too

Edited 29 May, 201016 yr by sweedish

tuners have told you incorrectly, you can get hybrids of the ko3s and ko4s maybe thats what was meant?

you should have a ko3s in your car too

ok that is fair enough like i said just saying what ive been told hold my hands upto it if iam wrong my bad sorry to all

dont worry mate we all make mistakes, just dont have a pop at other established helpful members when they call you out! :yes:

was that a sorry for saying i cant read and im a muppet??????

your info is wrong buddy

i only said you was wrong because i know what the answer is lol i wouldnt have said your wrong if i didnt know

so it goes as follows

k03 used on the golf 150 bhp

k03s vrs 180 bhp etc etc these 3 use the same mannifold

k04-001 210 bhp engines

k04-023 cupra + tt 225bhp this uses a different manni and has a different exhaust housing shape

you then have

k03 to k04 hybrid wich is a k03 or k03s machined out and k04-023 internals fitted or other components dependanton spec

k04 hybrid usually rs6 turbo internals machined to fit k04 housing

hope this clears this up

Edited 29 May, 201016 yr by westallc

SORRY WESTALLC IT SEEMS IAM THE MUPPET for relaying what i thought was right my bad

no worries fella

no ones a muppet you have just been fed some bull**** or mis understood what they was saying