HI Guys has anyone out there worked out a way of getting the Columbus system to work with the iPhone.

User the "search" facility, please.

Ray

HI Guys has anyone out there worked out a way of getting the Columbus system to work with the iPhone.

Get rid of the iphone and get an HTC desire. cheaper and far far better! The superb can stay. lol

As previously discussed many times in this forum, the iPhone does not currently work with the GSM3 system fitted to UK superb2's. The iPhone is now about the only recent handset not supported, and Apple are showing little interest in providing support. Even the brand spanking new iPhone 4 does not work with the superb.

Get rid of the iphone and get an HTC desire. cheaper and far far better! The superb can stay. lol

That wont work either... HTC HD2 or HD Mini will, as they are Windows phones, but there is no Android support for rSAP. (i think!)

... but there is no Android support for rSAP. (i think!)

See, this is what causes all the confusion. You say you think there's no Android support, this thread (last post) says exactly the opposite. If you don't know, please don't muddy the waters.

Ray

Edited 4 July, 201015 yr by Argee

See, this is what causes all the confusion. You say you think there's no Android support, this thread (last post) says exactly the opposite. If you don't know, please don't muddy the waters.

Ray

Alright, no need to be quite so aggressive about it!

To the OP: it is possible to switch to the GSM2 module which ditches the rSAP and uses standard HFP which all Bluetooth phones support.

Alright, no need to be quite so aggressive about it!

You find emboldening and "please" aggressive? How on Earth do you survive?

Ray

See, this is what causes all the confusion. You say you think there's no Android support, this thread (last post) says exactly the opposite. If you don't know, please don't muddy the waters.

Ray

Going back to the Original Phone quoted, taken from HTC's website:

"Other supported profiles: AVRCP, GAP, GOEP, HFP, HSP, PBAP, SPP, Service Discovery Application Profile"

There is NO SAP support - I do however stand corrected on the Samsung phone, but do take offense to the way in which you passed on this information.

And going back further to the title of this post, the iPhone, be it 2g, 3g, 3gs or 4g, none of which will work with GSM iii.

it is possible to change the GSM iii module with a Fiscon (aftermarket unit) which will use the HFP with almost any Bluetooth phone.

I did speak to FIscon on eMail about this earlier in the year and they say:

“FISCON Plus for Volkswagen, Seat and Skoda Replacement for Premium/UHV Handsfree” is the right product. It replaces the old phone controller and the old microphone by FISCON. Then you can use the iPhone. The functionality is the same than with the Premium handsfree but with better compatibility and extra functions.

The phone interface is located below the passenger seat. You don´t need to remove the radio and the A-pillar cover at the window. So this installation method is much easier.

and

coding is not required. You can use the existing cable between interface to mic so you don´t have to install any additional cables. It is real Plug&Play.

This unit is iro £350.00 - there is a topic in the Octavia area from a forum member who has done this including photographs.

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Hopefully all of the information given in this post is accurate, as i have included manufacturer quotes, and wont cause offense to any forum members.

Al.

I do however stand corrected on the Samsung phone, but do take offense to the way in which you passed on this information.

What are you offended about, exactly?

Emboldening and italicisation (or both) have been used for emphasis since long before any of us were born. I pointed out the difference in the information in the two specific posts and politely asked you to refrain from guessing, because such directly-opposed information will confuse the (already discussed to death) issue even further.

My post was to the point, accurate, correctly spelled and punctuated. From that you take offense? - unbelievable.

Apologies to the OP for straying.

Ray

What are you offended about, exactly?

Emboldening and italicisation (or both) have been used for emphasis since long before any of us were born. I pointed out the difference in the information in the two specific posts and politely asked you to refrain from guessing, because such directly-opposed information will confuse the (already discussed to death) issue even further.

My post was to the point, accurate, correctly spelled and punctuated. From that you take offense? - unbelievable.

Apologies to the OP for straying.

Ray

Emboldening and italicisation have been around as long as capitalisation but all of them need to be used sparingly and with care in the internet world. Four such emphases in one line is somewhat finger-jabbing, especially when prefaced by You in bold. Your post was clearly with the best of intentions but in my view, it conveyed irritation and condescension.

If one poster felt it was aggressive and another was offended, then they felt what they felt. If you want to leave them with that impression, that's up to you. If you want to correct that impression, you may of course do so. How you do so is your choice, but I would suggest that you need to do more than you have so far.

Your post was clearly with the best of intentions but in my view, it conveyed irritation and condescension.

Since I wasn't addressing you, it seems a little patronising and condescending on your part to interject in this way. I have no way of knowing why the interlocutor was upset, which is why I asked. Third party opinions do nothing but inflame and you have not helped at all. I know this, because those are my feelings, not those of a third party.

No reply is sought or required. I'm appalled by the juvenile posturing and not the slightest bit interested in wasting any more time on it. Perhaps the thread can get back on topic now, please.

RG

Edited 5 July, 201015 yr by Argee

Since I wasn't addressing you, it seems a little patronising and condescending on your part to interject in this way. I have no way of knowing why the interlocutor was upset, which is why I asked. Third party opinions do nothing but inflame and you have not helped at all. I know this, because those are my feelings, not those of a third party.

No reply is sought or required. I'm appalled by the juvenile posturing and not the slightest bit interested in wasting any more time on it. Perhaps the thread can get back on topic now, please.

RG

This is a public forum - not a private conversation - and therefore I will interject or reply if I wish. I'm far from a juvenile and I don't do posturing.

You say I haven't helped, which is a pity. I fear you are so appalled and inflamed that anyone disagrees with you that you have failed to get the point.

The point was to help you understand why some people have seen fit to comment on your post, which includes me as a user of this forum and a reader of this thread. Others can stand up for themselves.

The point was not to upset you, although I can understand if you find my comments to be unwelcome and I make no apology for that. If you dish it out, occasionally you will get some back.

I'm not looking for anything other than, I hope, some quiet reflection on your part, and I have no plans to spend further time on this either.

I'll try and give a definitive answer here:

1) The iPhone does't work currently, and will probably never work. There is an Apple bug for the lack of rSAP support, and it's number is 6330199. Go hassle Apple about it, and maybe they will get it fixed.

2) No Android handsets currently support rSAP (not even those running Froyo 2.2). There is a Google Code project running to try and get this changed, but there is nothing usable currently.

3) All MY11 Superb 2s built from 22nd June 2010 onwards will have a new bluetooth phone module which supports both HFP and rSAP. The iPhone and all Android phones will work fine with this module, as will all existing phones that use rSAP.

In theory, it might be possible to use the current GSM2 or the new hybrid GSM3 module in an existing car. I've heard anecdotal stories of people simply swapping one for the other, but have no definite confirmation that this works. You'd probably need VAG-COM to do some recoding if you did this. Anyone want to give it a try?

The FISCON kit is a great alternative, if a little pricey. It does allow you to retain a completely stock look and feel, though.

From what I'm told, Skoda UK are currently in negotiations with Kufatec to sell this kit as an aftermarket accessory. No word on availablilty yet.

Alternatively, the Bury CC9060 is a great bluetooth kit, and works well with both Android phones and the iPhone.

You could also try the combination of a Brodit iPhone mount, and something like the Parrot CK3200. That way, you can drive all the communication from the iPhone itself, and the Parrot takes care of getting the audio to the speakers. Beware if you have the sound system, as you will need an additional adapter to change the line levels from the CK3200 to make them suitable for input into the amplifier.

Hope this helps,

Andy.

3) All MY11 Superb 2s built from 22nd June 2010 onwards will have a new bluetooth phone module which supports both HFP and rSAP. The iPhone and all Android phones will work fine with this module, as will all existing phones that use rSAP.

Thanks Andy, fantastic news - you have made my day. My new Superb was ordered late June.

I had resigned myself to keeping my Nokia E51 for the forseeable future while all my colleagues got the opportunity to upgrade to an iPhone 3GS or HTC Desire.

Best regards

David

Looks like the Samsung Galaxy S does support rSAP.

This makes it the first Android phone to do so. I'm guessing that Samsung have engineered their own bluetooth stack for the phone, as the standard Android builds definitely don't have this capability.

This is one of the things that makes Android so great, but also such a problem. Different manufacturers diverge away from the standard Android builds, which means you have to wait for them to port their customisations when a new version comes out (if they ever bother).

Andy.

You find emboldening and "please" aggressive? How on Earth do you survive?

Ray

Your implied tone through italicising and emboldening certain words does make you sound patronising and condescending, bordering on being a bit of a pompous, know-it-all type of individual.

As for "surviving" I think I'll manage. I've been around the internets for a long time and in my line of work I get used to banter.

A note of advice: You really should think about how you might come across to people when posting. You might think you're helping, but it seems pretty clear that I wasn't the only one who had a problem with your poor attitude.

it is possible to change the GSM iii module with a Fiscon (aftermarket unit) which will use the HFP with almost any Bluetooth phone.

It is possible to swap the GSMIII module for the GSMII, which tends to be cheaper and much less hassle as it uses the car's existing wiring and microphone

Can you all just take a step back and keep this on topic please.

No more arguing thanks :wonder:

Thanks for the excellent summary, Andy. BTW, I've sent you a message.

Ray