Spoken Like true diesel owners....... personally having had two petrol VRS's (1.8T and the 2.0T) then upgrading to the FL I though maybe it's time to look at the TDI so the sales guy arrange a test drive, went out in it and then ordered the 2.0TSI (apologized to the sale guys as the demo had been brought in from another garage). Problem is I like to drive a sports model like a sports model is meant to be driven and you just don’t get the same feel and response with the diesel as you do petrol period.

Think you need to go straight into a diesel VRS having never owned the petrol version because you’re always looking for that extra oomph imo.

I could never understand the GF getting a Diesel A3 convertible? The two words should never be in the same sentence and I feel the same with a sports hatch/saloon. It’s very narrow minded I know and is purely my own opinion before people take offense.

Ones a Diesel owner always a diesel owner ones a petrol owner always a petrol owner till the penny bites….

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got to completly agree with you pal,the diesel is alot better car in my eyes,you will never get anywere near 50mpg out of the petrol vrs infact unless you drive like your grandad does i bet you will not even see 40mpg,ive a 10 plate vrs cr diesel and its always giving me late 40's to early 50's in mpg,mines re-mapped and will do a petrol on in performance and when i got to sell it it will do £3k-£5k more than a petrol model,cheaper road tax so why buy a petrol as you will never be away from the pumps pal

Just took a look at parkers for a 3 year old octavia, prices came in about £1100 different for diesel and petrol

(which is about the same difference as when new)

So, would love to know how you will see a £3-5000 difference when you come to sell it, Pal.....

Just took a look at parkers for a 3 year old octavia, prices came in about £1100 different for diesel and petrol

(which is about the same difference as when new)

So, would love to know how you will see a £3-5000 difference when you come to sell it, Pal.....

:giggle:

I just did that too!

You buy a diesel because you do big mileages i.e. because you have to.

That's why mine is a diesel - they are the only fuels on the company car list.

Next year I am seriously considering copting out and then I can have a petrol and the higher fuel consumption will be offset by the higher payment per mile

Steve

You buy a diesel because you do big mileages i.e. because you have to.

That's why mine is a diesel - they are the only fuels on the company car list.

Next year I am seriously considering copting out and then I can have a petrol and the higher fuel consumption will be offset by the higher payment per mile

Steve

Steve vRS, don't forget your company car tax though, wont you be hit more for having a petrol?

I just get a car allowance from my place, hence avoiding all that

If I opt out, I don't pay company car tax. I am responsible for buying, maintaining and insuring the car just like a private car. The company gives me a set amount each month and 5p per mile more than the equivalent company car reimbursement.

Steve

Edited 6 August, 201015 yr by Steve vRS

If I opt out, I don't pay company car tax. I am responsible for buying, maintaining and insuring the car just like a private car. The company gives me a set amount each month and 5p per mile more than the equivalent company car reimbursement.

Steve

Yeah thats pretty much that I do. How much are they paying you a mile if you don't mind me asking?

my company pay me 25p per mile for business use, but I think the governement will make it up to 40p per mile as long as you claim it back on your P11D form at the end of the tax year.

It's 21p per mile for a petrol engine up to 2L in size. If I were to get a larger petrol, I could claim 27p per mile!

Remember it's only the tax you can claim back on the difference between what you get paid per mile and the 40p per mile government allowance, so if you are a basic rate tax payer, it's 20% of the difference and if you are a 40% payer, it is 40% of the difference.

Steve

It's 21p per mile for a petrol engine up to 2L in size. If I were to get a larger petrol, I could claim 27p per mile!

Remember it's only the tax you can claim back on the difference between what you get paid per mile and the 40p per mile government allowance, so if you are a basic rate tax payer, it's 20% of the difference and if you are a 40% payer, it is 40% of the difference.

Steve

Yup quite right mate, after looking into it further! Cheers

What would the banlance swing to when you are talking about second hand? Theres a Mk 2 vRS pre FL TDI for sale in Berwick and it seems to be only around £500 more than the equivalent petrol models. Im tempted (especially after a quick spin in my mates TDI Bora sport 130 - the first diesel car Ive driven for years!) Im currently in a 68BHP Fabia MPI so Im sure it will feel quick , its just the thought that Im doing myself out of 30 BHP by going for the TDI. There is a petrol L&K with the 1.8 TSI turbo engine in it , which is around the same price , for sale at a local dealer and I quite like that as well , but it looks pretty ordinary on the outside (lovely inside though and much better equpped than the vRS i seen , dual zone , maxidot , full leather ect)

This is a battle that will rage for all of time. Unfortunately you will not find your answer here as we all have our own preferences for various reasons. Best thing to do is to try both variants, but the problem with short test drives is it gives you a very restricted experience of each car.

But just to throw my $0.02 in:

I have had fast petrol cars for a number of years. I decided to make the ultimate sacrifice and go diesel for practical reasons and ended up going for a Passat PD140 sport. This proved very cheap to run; tax, insurance and fuel where all incredibly cheap however for me as a car lover it turned from something I used to enjoy driving in to just a car. Sure there was loads of torque but pulling away from junctions quickly can lead to problems with diesels (unless you have a 3ltr derv) and power runs out quick if you do put your foot down. Combined with the fact that I do a lot of urban driving in the week this lead to lots of problems with the car which leads to the next problem - diesels can be costly if they go wrong. Needless to say I sold the Passat after a year and bought a MK II Octy VRS TFSI. It's a cracking car, I enjoy driving again and the extra I pay for fuel and tax is well worth it for the enjoyment I get. You can not put a price on this, the diesel VRS is a good car but nowhere near as much fun to drive IMHO. As I bought my car when it was 4 years old it was also a bargain. When I bought mine there was a 2-3k difference in price between the equiv. petrol and diesel, and there is no way I could justify that. I also used to find that I drove everywhere faster in the diesel due to the effortless torque and high MPG, with the TFSI I drive slower as I find myself more aware of the speed (and mpg!). If you ask me you are far more likely to get done for speeding in a diesel compared to a petrol car.

However see which one you prefer, think about how you'll use it and what your budget is

Spoken Like true diesel owners....... personally having had two petrol VRS's (1.8T and the 2.0T) then upgrading to the FL I though maybe it's time to look at the TDI so the sales guy arrange a test drive, went out in it and then ordered the 2.0TSI (apologized to the sale guys as the demo had been brought in from another garage). Problem is I like to drive a sports model like a sports model is meant to be driven and you just don’t get the same feel and response with the diesel as you do petrol period.

Think you need to go straight into a diesel VRS having never owned the petrol version because you’re always looking for that extra oomph imo.

I could never understand the GF getting a Diesel A3 convertible? The two words should never be in the same sentence and I feel the same with a sports hatch/saloon. It’s very narrow minded I know and is purely my own opinion before people take offense.

Once a Diesel owner always a diesel owner once a petrol owner always a petrol owner till the penny bites….

I used to have a 1.8 Mk 1 VRs too then moved to the PD VRS and now have the CR VRS. So I used to be a petrol owner then switched. When buying my latest cars I looked at both petrol and diesel and went for the CR due to the smooth response of the engine. Apart from the shorter rev range the diesel is just as sporty a drive as the petrol.

Also in my old Mk1 I could just about get 40mpg on a run and normally aveaged around 35mpg so I suspect if I did get the petrol Mk 2 I would achieve less than this. Others may be able to get +40mpg from the petrol but I know I would not. However, on my CR I regularly get +50mpg even on my daily drive to work.

A true driving/car enthusiast will always choose petrol first. Mainly because it provides a better driver experience.

Depends if you're passionate about driving really. If you are get a petrol.

If you've given up on life, maybe settle for a wiesel.

Petrol =

Diesel = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrBq9Hbqm8Y

A true driving/car enthusiast will always choose petrol first. Mainly because it provides a better driver experience.

Depends if you're passionate about driving really. If you are get a petrol.

If you've given up on life, maybe settle for a wiesel.

Petrol =

Diesel = http://www.youtube.c...h?v=DrBq9Hbqm8Y

When you're driving 30000 miles or more every year it doesn't make sense to buy the petrol. If I was doing under 20000 a year I'd consider it, and under 15000 a year the petrol would win every time...

This time round, for me at least, it's nothing to do with passion, it's economics... I'm in the middle of a messy divorce (over 11K so far on solicitors fees and still not divorced)... I'd love a petrol vRS, but just can't justify the cost :(

Spoken Like true diesel owners....... personally having had two petrol VRS's (1.8T and the 2.0T) then upgrading to the FL I though maybe it's time to look at the TDI so the sales guy arrange a test drive, went out in it and then ordered the 2.0TSI (apologized to the sale guys as the demo had been brought in from another garage). Problem is I like to drive a sports model like a sports model is meant to be driven and you just don’t get the same feel and response with the diesel as you do petrol period.

Think you need to go straight into a diesel VRS having never owned the petrol version because you’re always looking for that extra oomph imo.

I could never understand the GF getting a Diesel A3 convertible? The two words should never be in the same sentence and I feel the same with a sports hatch/saloon. It’s very narrow minded I know and is purely my own opinion before people take offense.

Once a Diesel owner always a diesel owner once a petrol owner always a petrol owner till the penny bites….

quite funny that statement once a diesel owner always a diesel,the thing is i came from a 310bhp vxr to the diesel vrs

To completely go the opposite way of the pro-petrol folks, I like diesel because it drives better. I always found petrol engines to be whiny and noisy because to get any good from them you have no choice but to start changing gears and revving it out. Great fun if you've a 9000+ rpm redline and you're on a track, but irritating if it's your daily driver. I prefer a car that doesn't feel the need to scream for attention just because it's putting down a bit of power. Also as someone who spends a lot of time cycling, I find that driving a diesel engine fits better with how I'm used to putting power down too, namely low revs and high torque, so I found it much easier to settle into driving a diesel after buying my first diesel early last year after I'd spent years driving petrol engined cars.

Just took a look at parkers for a 3 year old octavia, prices came in about £1100 different for diesel and petrol

(which is about the same difference as when new)

So, would love to know how you will see a £3-5000 difference when you come to sell it, Pal.....

go on autotrader and find the cheapest 170 tdi in the country,cause ive just bought a 06 vrs petrol for £4500 with 60k on it,you cannot get a good vrs tdi under £7k unless theres a story to it,now go and laugh at yourself at the prices of the petrols

Edited 6 August, 201015 yr by hoggy a

go on autotrader and find the cheapest 170 tdi in the country,cause ive just bought a 06 vrs petrol for £4500 with 60k on it,you cannot get a good vrs tdi under £7k unless theres a story to it,now go and laugh at yourself at the prices of the petrols

PMSL......

I'm glad you seemed to have picked up a bargain, because if YOU check on Autotrader, I think you will find the cheapest 2006 vRS Petrol on there is £7200

Fingers crossed yours isn't two that have been glued together

PMSL......

I'm glad you seemed to have picked up a bargain, because if YOU check on Autotrader, I think you will find the cheapest 2006 vRS Petrol on there is £7200

Fingers crossed yours isn't two that have been glued together

what is this

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201017357759160/sort/priceasc/usedcars/fuel-type/petrol/model/octavia/make/skoda/keywords/vrs/radius/1501/postcode/ts198su/page/3?logcode=p

find me a diesel cheaper than this

Edited 6 August, 201015 yr by BigW
Removed derogatory comments

Play nice and less of the insults, posts edited to remove some of them, any more then the thread will go.

Play nice and less of the insults, posts edited to remove some of them, any more then the thread will go.

bin the thread,insults are to people who say i buy 2 half cars and dont do there homework,its ok coming on here and having ago when the person CANNOT even do his homework right,and for the record iam in the trade and the trade DO NOT use parkers guide

Edited 6 August, 201015 yr by hoggy a

bin the thred,insults are to people who say i buy 2 half cars and dont do there homework,its ok coming on here and having ago when the person CANNOT even do his homework right,and for the record iam in the trade and the trade DO NOT use parkers guide

Ok, thread binned, since the two main contributers have now requested such.

For the record, It makes no odds to me whether you are in the trade or not, you could be an ice cream salesman for all that makes a difference to me.

Insults of that type are not welcome on this forum as detailed in the site guidelines,

Please familiarise yourself (and the others I have recently spoken to) with them, if you cannot comply then its not worth the effort to post!

http://briskoda.net/guidelines

Thread closed.