Well i've decided to take the plunge and get the DPF removal pipe and ecu upgrade for my PD170 VRS. Spoke to JBS/Custom Code and been quoted bhp between 220 and 235, as i'm told that each individual vehicle can give different results. Also asked if they would put the seat gasket in at the same time(just in case having read up on the forum here). Never asked if they did any discount for briskoda members. Anyway would welcome any comments/advice about this mod or people's experience with JBS.

Cheers

Edited 26 January, 201115 yr by bertie1249

Well i've decided to take the plunge and get the DPF removal pipe and ecu upgrade for my PD170 VRS. Spoke to JDS/Custom Code and been quoted bhp between 220 and 235, as i'm told that each individual vehicle can give different results. Also asked if they would put the seat gasket in at the same time(just in case having read up on the forum here). Never asked if they did any discount for briskoda members. Anyway would welcome any comments/advice about this mod or people's experience with JDS.

Cheers

It's JBS mate. They're pretty well respected in VW circles. They don't do a discount for members and they can be a little pricey. I have had excellent and average experiences with them, unfortunately the latter more recently, but I would still take my car there. Seb is a decent chap and the technical guys know their stuff.

I know that I bang on about Shark remaps, but you won't get a more honest man than Ben there. And, Mansfield not too far from Chesterfield. Phone him up and he will be able to advise I am sure. But phone, as he is always busy and won't mind me saying that he might not have time to reply to every email.

Realise the mistake now, JBS i meant,sorry for being a numpty. The reason i phoned them is that i found out that they are the only company supplying the milltek down pipe(don't know whether that makes a difference?, and they are also stating bhp's of around 220-235, whereas others are only quoting 200bhp, although i haven't spoken to Shark and i am not aware of the bhp's he is quoting and whether he replaces the downpipe?. As you can guess my knowledge is very limited. I have been quoted £751 so far.

The downpipe wil have to be replaced somehow, the DPF is the downpipe so if you delete it something will need to go there.

IIRC I remember Ben saying that the Shark DPF removal actually uses they original DP with the DPF removed and mapped to suit, I would imagine it would be a cheaper option....

I took my PD170 vRS to Shark for the DPF removal and re-map - excellent service and a completely different car once the work was completed

Ben doesn't tend to quote Bhp figures, which in the case of 95% of tuners are misleading anyway, but I can definitely vouch for his map. The engine now revs like a petrol but with the diesel torque and the car now goes like stink!!

Give Ben a call - you won't be disappointed

heard some horror stories about JBS but in the same boat heard a lot of good things, sebs a nice bloke but heard they're very pricey!

Go and see Ben @ Shark.

You won't get a better service anywhere else.

Can't seem to make my mind up. JBS include the milltek down pipe where shark remove the for via welding the original downside. Don't really know the advantages of either other than you can tell the milltek is a replacement. As for performance gains I can't really compare unless someone can advise.

Am really struggling here guys. Does shark put the vehicle on a rolling road to get final bhp?

Can't seem to make my mind up. JBS include the milltek down pipe where shark removes the dpf via welding the original downpipe. Don't really know the advantages of either other than you can tell the milltek is a replacement. As for performance gains I can't really compare unless someone can advise. Don't know whether the milltek is less restrictive.

Am really struggling here guys. Does shark put the vehicle on a rolling road to get final bhp?

Can't seem to make my mind up. JBS include the milltek down pipe where shark removes the dpf via welding the original downpipe. Don't really know the advantages of either other than you can tell the milltek is a replacement. As for

performance gains I can't really compare unless someone can advise. Don't know whether the milltek is less restrictive.

Am really struggling here guys. Does shark put the vehicle on a rolling road to get final bhp?

Seems you're making a mountain out of a molehill! How many people here have recommended Shark? If that isn't a sign then I don't know what is!

As far as I know Shark just remove the internals of the DPF and reprogram the ECU to not worry about it anymore. The car will look as standard.

Shark don't do rolling road, but you don't need to get hung up on the numbers. Ben does a proper job, why not drop him a mail/PM/phone call to find out more?

Unfortunately you are right, I am making a mountain out of a molehill, but I suffer from OCD, and one of my problems is that I can never make a decision, unless I get reassurance( please no jokes its a genuine illness.) I just thought by getting the milltek downpipe it would give me better bhp or is that down to the ecu programme that the company install?

Unfortunately you are right, I am making a mountain out of a molehill, but I suffer from OCD, and one of my problems is that I can never make a decision, unless I get reassurance( please no jokes its a genuine illness.) I just thought by getting the milltek downpipe it would give me better bhp or is that down to the ecu programme that the company install?

Both the new map and the DPF 'delete' will work together to increase power. The map will take into account the removal of the DPF & maximise the advantage of this. You could probably buy a downpipe elsewhere & get it fitted, then take it to Ben at Shark, but whatever happens, if you are getting rid of the DPF do it before the remap, not after. :no:

As for Ben, I have yet to see a single bad word or issue on Briskoda (or elsewhere) about him or his company, Shark Performance. His technical expertise would appear to be second to none, and he has gone out of his way to help people, even after hours.

I also used to get a bit hung up on BHP figures etc., but it's driving it that matters, not bragging rights!! A very aggressive map can give big BHP, but only across a very narrow rev band, making the car peaky or 'all or nothing'. A good map will be smooth and available across a far wider rev range. You could always have it tested before & after-there are plenty of rolling roads around-but even they can vary! You can get different results with the same car on different rolling roads!

Do it! :yes:

Edited 27 January, 201115 yr by skodaphile

Cheers guys for your patience and help. You were right Ben is a gent, hence i have book it in with Shark Performance for the 2nd Feb. Thanks Ben

Cheers guys for your patience and help. You were right Ben is a gent, hence i have book it in with Shark Performance for the 2nd Feb. Thanks Ben

Excellent! Good man. Let us know how you get on. :yes:

If you wasn't to keep your dpf ben can get a pipe made to replace . He had somecompany Chose by who can manufacture one for you. I think it's handy to keep it just in case you every need it, just a thought

Let me know how you get on. I am very tempted to ditch my DPF. Are you going for the smaller EGR valve gasket?

Been looking at the EGR gasket fix myself - is it VW part number 028 131 547 B that is needed for a PD140 and PD170?

Been looking at the EGR gasket fix myself - is it VW part number 028 131 547 B that is needed for a PD140 and PD170?

Can you confirm this is the correct part number? I want to order one of these tomorrow.

Cheers

cant quite remember the part no, but yes its the same gasket regardless of which PD engine it is.

Is it the gasket listed for the BLT engine on fabia-vrs?

cant quite remember the part no, but yes its the same gasket regardless of which PD engine it is.

Excellent! I'll call them today. Is this the gasket with the smallest hole? I understand there are two different types of replacement gasket. 9mm and 14mm??..

Well what a hell of a day :'( Set off this morning at 05:00am to see Ben at Shark Performance, hoping to get there nice and early for my DPF Removal and upgrade ecu. Got as far as Chester and glowplug warning light came on. Car went into limp mode and managed to crawl to laybye. Engine stopped immediately, and would not re-start. Had to get vehicle recovery to take me and my vehicle all the way back home. Spoke to Ben and apologised, and will be contacting him after the car is sorted to make another appointment. Car is now in my local garage. Only thing i cant understand is that the car was in my garage yesterday having an MOT and cambelt and water pump change. Don't know if that has anything to do with the glowplug light coming on?

Only other thing i can think of is that i put a new bulb in the rear brakes a couple of days ago, but everything seemed fine with that, and it worked. Anyway i thought it would be the light bulb warning light that would come on if there was a problem there

Edited 2 February, 201115 yr by bertie1249

Thats seriously bad luck pal! I have to say I often get the flashing glow plug fault with my motor. It results in a loss of power, but a few restarts later and the fault has gone! Could you have not got the recovery firm to take the car to Ben? I can't see it be a direct result of either the cambelt or the MOT tbh. Unless the cambelt snapped of course. The only other possiblity is the cambelt was fitted loose and had jumped a tooth? I take it the engine continued to run until you turned it off and sound ok till that point? Obviously if the cambelt was fitted incorrectly and the timing was out you would be able to hear that from outset!?

Well what a hell of a day Set off this morning at 05:00am to see Ben at Shark Performance, hoping to get there nice and early for my DPF Removal and upgrade ecu. Got as far as Chester and glowplug warning light came on. Car went into limp mode and managed to crawl to laybye. Engine stopped immediately, and would not re-start. Had to get vehicle recovery to take me and my vehicle all the way back home.

Ouch. Weird second person this year that could not make it to Ben! See this thread of what happened to Rockhopper going there:

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/186183-remap-postponed-due-to-bent-wheel/