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Clubstand you can confirm or not, doesn't matter. But I would like to know numbers to tell Combe how big a stand we will need. At the moment I have said "50 to 60" which is 28 + 22 to 32 clubstand only cars. I don't think it will exceed that.

PS: Provisionally sold a pair of track passes on pistonheads, so probably only ONE track space actually left now. *Phew!

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Well done mate :thumbup:

1. dvere - PAID!!

2. devonutopia - Fabia - PAID!!

3. JASON EX.VAGOWNERS "JCS356" - Seat Cordoba - PAID!!

4. tonyb8063 - Octy vRS 1 - PAID!!

5. Thirdtimeluck - Fabia vRS - PAID!!

6. "Stealth225" EX VAGOWNERS - R32

7. rockhopper - Yeti - PAID!!

8. vRS Joe - Fabia vRS PAID!!

9. SimonK24 - Fabia vRS - PAID!!

10. Reavenger - Fabia vRS II - PAID!!

11. DavRS - FL Octavia vRS DSG

12. Kendo KYY - PAID!!

13. xa0s - Fabia vRS - PAID!!

14. CT17 - Fabia VRS SE - PAID!!

15. korban - Fabia VRS SE

16. Pastyboy #2 - Ibiza - PAID!!

17. M12MKD (polocoupe) - Octavia Combi vRS - PAID!!

18. Jonny5ive - TRD Fabia vRS - with orange bits - PAID!!

19. Nobafett - FL Octy vRS Tsi - PAID!!

20. PastyBoy - PastyWagon #1 - PAID!!

21. ROS53Y - Fabia vRS SE - PAID!!

22. BusyBeingBorn - Fabia vRS - PAID!!

23. grr666- Fabia vRS - PAID!!

24. chrisw_vrs - Fabia vRS

25. Andyrew - mk1 octavia elegance - PAID!!

26. Big Gray - Ibiza Cupra - PAID!!

27. jr123 - Fabia vRS LE - PAID!!

28. karlbar2k - if the space is still available?

(limit)

Clubstand only

1.Lloyd55vrs

2.Mrs_Jonny5ive and Jonny5ive_JR

3.Hedge - Octavia

4.Mrs Grr - Fabia SDI

5. Octygone and co. Yeti...will probably bring cake as well

6. L-y-k - Fabia Bohemia Combi

7. Andyrew - mk1 octavia VRS

8. Parker_fabia - Fabia 1.4 MPI

9. Ultima

10.LLFoolJ and JR. - Superb

11. s_matt fabia

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You have a PM reply :)

At the moment, all spaces are SOLD, but it rests on the pair from Pistonheads making good their promise.

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OK - All passes are now provisionally taken. There are only three or four people who I know are good for the money who I am waiting on now. Two sold on Pistonheads (Alfa GTA 3.2 and a 1.8t Audi A3) and my space has now gone to Karlbar2k. :)

Due to not hearing from DavRS in any form of comms, and him not being online since early July, I've been forced to remove him from the list. :(

1. dvere - PAID!!

2. karlbar2k - if the space is still available?

3. JASON EX.VAGOWNERS "JCS356" - Seat Cordoba - PAID!!

4. tonyb8063 - Octy vRS 1 - PAID!!

5. Thirdtimeluck - Fabia vRS - PAID!!

6. "Stealth225" EX VAGOWNERS - R32

7. rockhopper - Yeti - PAID!!

8. vRS Joe - Fabia vRS PAID!!

9. SimonK24 - Fabia vRS - PAID!!

10. Reavenger - Fabia vRS II - PAID!!

11. Kendo KYY - PAID!!

12. xa0s - Fabia vRS - PAID!!

13. CT17 - Fabia VRS SE - PAID!!

14. korban - Fabia VRS SE

15. Pastyboy #2 - Ibiza - PAID!!

16. M12MKD (polocoupe) - Octavia Combi vRS - PAID!!

17. Jonny5ive - TRD Fabia vRS - with orange bits - PAID!!

18. Nobafett - FL Octy vRS Tsi - PAID!!

19. PastyBoy - PastyWagon #1 - PAID!!

20. ROS53Y - Fabia vRS SE - PAID!!

21. BusyBeingBorn - Fabia vRS - PAID!!

22. grr666- Fabia vRS - PAID!!

23. chrisw_vrs - Fabia vRS

24. Andyrew - mk1 octavia elegance - PAID!!

25. Big Gray - Ibiza Cupra - PAID!!

26. jr123 - Fabia vRS LE - PAID!!

27. Pistonheads #1 - Alfa GTA 3.2 - PAID!!

28. Pistonheads #2 - Audi A3 1.8t - PAID!!

(limit)

Clubstand only

1.Lloyd55vrs

2.Mrs_Jonny5ive and Jonny5ive_JR

3.Hedge - Octavia

4.Mrs Grr - Fabia SDI

5. Octygone and co. Yeti...will probably bring cake as well

6. L-y-k - Fabia Bohemia Combi

7. Andyrew - mk1 octavia VRS

8. Parker_fabia - Fabia 1.4 MPI

9. Ultima

10.LLFoolJ and JR. - Superb

11. s_matt fabia

Good job organising again Jas. Effort will be worth it on the day. Can't wait :thumbup:

Housekeeping

1. dvere - PAID!!

2. karlbar2k - if the space is still available?

3. JASON EX.VAGOWNERS "JCS356" - Seat Cordoba - PAID!!

4. tonyb8063 - Octy vRS 1 - PAID!!

5. Thirdtimeluck - Fabia vRS - PAID!!

6. "Stealth225" EX VAGOWNERS - R32

7. rockhopper - Yeti - PAID!!

8. vRS Joe - Fabia vRS PAID!!

9. SimonK24 - Fabia vRS - PAID!!

10. Reavenger - Fabia vRS II - PAID!!

11. Kendo KYY - PAID!!

12. xa0s - Fabia vRS - PAID!!

13. CT17 - Fabia VRS SE - PAID!!

14. korban - Fabia VRS SE

15. Pastyboy #2 - Ibiza - PAID!!

16. M12MKD (polocoupe) - Octavia Combi vRS - PAID!!

17. Jonny5ive - TRD Fabia vRS - with black bits - PAID!!

18. Nobafett - FL Octy vRS Tsi - PAID!!

19. PastyBoy - PastyWagon #1 - PAID!!

20. ROS53Y - Fabia vRS SE - PAID!!

21. BusyBeingBorn - Fabia vRS - PAID!!

22. grr666- Fabia vRS - PAID!!

23. chrisw_vrs - Fabia vRS

24. Andyrew - mk1 octavia elegance - PAID!!

25. Big Gray - Ibiza Cupra - PAID!!

26. jr123 - Fabia vRS LE - PAID!!

27. Pistonheads #1 - Alfa GTA 3.2 - PAID!!

28. Pistonheads #2 - Audi A3 1.8t - PAID!!

(limit)

Clubstand only

1.Lloyd55vrs

2.Mrs_Jonny5ive and Jonny5ive_JR

3.Hedge - Octavia

4.Mrs Grr - Fabia SDI

5. Octygone and co. Yeti...will probably bring cake as well

6. L-y-k - Fabia Bohemia Combi

7. Andyrew - mk1 octavia VRS

8. Parker_fabia - Fabia 1.4 MPI

9. Ultima

10.LLFoolJ and JR. - Superb

11. s_matt fabia

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Unfortunately Karlbar2k forgot about his lad's birthday on the 10th, so one space still available now. Don't forget there will be a 10 entry ticket giveaway to those on clubstand only, and 4 tickets being sold @ £5 each to make up for reduced track time sales.

1. dvere - PAID!!

2. SPACE TO FILL

3. JASON EX.VAGOWNERS "JCS356" - Seat Cordoba - PAID!!

4. tonyb8063 - Octy vRS 1 - PAID!!

5. Thirdtimeluck - Fabia vRS - PAID!!

6. "Stealth225" EX VAGOWNERS - R32 - paying Monday

7. rockhopper - Yeti - PAID!!

8. vRS Joe - Fabia vRS PAID!!

9. SimonK24 - Fabia vRS - PAID!!

10. Reavenger - Fabia vRS II - PAID!!

11. Kendo KYY - PAID!!

12. xa0s - Fabia vRS - PAID!!

13. CT17 - Fabia VRS SE - PAID!!

14. korban - Fabia VRS SE - hopefully paying when back from holiday

15. Pastyboy #2 - Ibiza - PAID!!

16. M12MKD (polocoupe) - Octavia Combi vRS - PAID!!

17. Jonny5ive - TRD Fabia vRS - with black bits - PAID!!

18. Nobafett - FL Octy vRS Tsi - PAID!!

19. PastyBoy - PastyWagon #1 - PAID!!

20. ROS53Y - Fabia vRS SE - PAID!!

21. BusyBeingBorn - Fabia vRS - PAID!!

22. grr666- Fabia vRS - PAID!!

23. chrisw_vrs - Fabia vRS - paying end of the month

24. Andyrew - mk1 octavia elegance - PAID!!

25. Big Gray - Ibiza Cupra - PAID!!

26. jr123 - Fabia vRS LE - PAID!!

27. Pistonheads #1 - Alfa GTA 3.2 - PAID!!

28. Pistonheads #2 - Audi A3 1.8t - PAID!!

(limit)

Clubstand only

1.Lloyd55vrs

2.Mrs_Jonny5ive and Jonny5ive_JR

3.Hedge - Octavia

4.Mrs Grr - Fabia SDI

5. Octygone and co. Yeti...will probably bring cake as well

6. L-y-k - Fabia Bohemia Combi

7. Andyrew - mk1 octavia VRS

8. Parker_fabia - Fabia 1.4 MPI

9. Ultima

10.LLFoolJ and JR. - Superb

11. s_matt fabia

1. dvere - PAID!!

2. SPACE TO FILL

3. JASON EX.VAGOWNERS "JCS356" - Seat Cordoba - PAID!!

4. tonyb8063 - Octy vRS 1 - PAID!!

5. Thirdtimeluck - Fabia vRS - PAID!!

6. "Stealth225" EX VAGOWNERS - R32 - paying Monday

7. rockhopper - Yeti - PAID!!

8. vRS Joe - Fabia vRS PAID!!

9. SimonK24 - Fabia vRS - PAID!!

10. Reavenger - Fabia vRS II - PAID!!

11. Kendo KYY - PAID!!

12. xa0s - Fabia vRS - PAID!!

13. CT17 - Fabia VRS SE - PAID!!

14. korban - Fabia VRS SE - hopefully paying when back from holiday

15. Pastyboy #2 - Ibiza - PAID!!

16. M12MKD (polocoupe) - Octavia Combi vRS - PAID!!

17. Jonny5ive - TRD Fabia vRS - with black bits - PAID!!

18. Nobafett - FL Octy vRS Tsi - PAID!!

19. PastyBoy - PastyWagon #1 - PAID!!

20. ROS53Y - Fabia vRS SE - PAID!!

21. BusyBeingBorn - Fabia vRS - PAID!!

22. grr666- Fabia vRS - PAID!!

23. chrisw_vrs - Fabia vRS - paying end of the month

24. Andyrew - mk1 octavia elegance - PAID!!

25. Big Gray - Ibiza Cupra - PAID!!

26. jr123 - Fabia vRS LE - PAID!!

27. Pistonheads #1 - Alfa GTA 3.2 - PAID!!

28. Pistonheads #2 - Audi A3 1.8t - PAID!!

(limit)

Clubstand only

1.Lloyd55vrs

2.Mrs_Jonny5ive and Jonny5ive_JR

3.Hedge - Octavia

4.Mrs Grr - Fabia SDI

5. Octygone and co. Yeti...will probably bring cake as well

6. L-y-k - Fabia Bohemia Combi

7. Andyrew - mk1 octavia VRS

8. Parker_fabia - Fabia 1.4 MPI

9. Ultima

10.LLFoolJ and JR. - Superb

11. s_matt fabia

12. Soot1e- Fabia VRS.

Better get me name down then if Free tickets are available.

1. dvere - PAID!!

2. SPACE TO FILL

3. JASON EX.VAGOWNERS "JCS356" - Seat Cordoba - PAID!!

4. tonyb8063 - Octy vRS 1 - PAID!!

5. Thirdtimeluck - Fabia vRS - PAID!!

6. "Stealth225" EX VAGOWNERS - R32 - paying Monday

7. rockhopper - Yeti - PAID!!

8. vRS Joe - Fabia vRS PAID!!

9. SimonK24 - Fabia vRS - PAID!!

10. Reavenger - Fabia vRS II - PAID!!

11. Kendo KYY - PAID!!

12. xa0s - Fabia vRS - PAID!!

13. CT17 - Fabia VRS SE - PAID!!

14. korban - Fabia VRS SE - hopefully paying when back from holiday

15. Pastyboy #2 - Ibiza - PAID!!

16. M12MKD (polocoupe) - Octavia Combi vRS - PAID!!

17. Jonny5ive - TRD Fabia vRS - with black bits - PAID!!

18. Nobafett - FL Octy vRS Tsi - PAID!!

19. PastyBoy - PastyWagon #1 - PAID!!

20. ROS53Y - Fabia vRS SE - PAID!!

21. BusyBeingBorn - Fabia vRS - PAID!!

22. grr666- Fabia vRS - PAID!!

23. chrisw_vrs - Fabia vRS - paying end of the month

24. Andyrew - mk1 octavia elegance - PAID!!

25. Big Gray - Ibiza Cupra - PAID!!

26. jr123 - Fabia vRS LE - PAID!!

27. Pistonheads #1 - Alfa GTA 3.2 - PAID!!

28. Pistonheads #2 - Audi A3 1.8t - PAID!!

(limit)

Clubstand only

1.Lloyd55vrs

2.Mrs_Jonny5ive and Jonny5ive_JR

3.Hedge - Octavia

4.Mrs Grr - Fabia SDI

5. Octygone and co. Yeti...will probably bring cake as well

6. L-y-k - Fabia Bohemia Combi

7. Andyrew - mk1 octavia VRS

8. Parker_fabia - Fabia 1.4 MPI

9. Ultima

10.LLFoolJ and JR. - Superb

11. s_matt fabia

12. Soot1e- Fabia VRS.

13. GabiS - Fabia

Who's Gabi then?

Looking forward to this now! :)

Mine may be available for some if interested?

Got a problem with my clutch at the moment and I'm not sure I can afford to get it sorted in time

any one traveling from the swindon area fancy meeting up prior to travelling down again like last year??

Looking forward to this now! :)

+1!

Would be cool to have the cars parked up together in the same colour etc, I know we have tried this in the past and it's difficult as people turn up at different times etc (though if we had a list of people's car colours, then it would make things easier to leave spaces for people to park in). Would be good to win the best club stand again like last year!

I stil cant find a decent sized inflatable helicopter for the top of my yeti if anyone see's one could they let me know

+1!

Would be cool to have the cars parked up together in the same colour etc, I know we have tried this in the past and it's difficult as people turn up at different times etc (though if we had a list of people's car colours, then it would make things easier to leave spaces for people to park in). Would be good to win the best club stand again like last year!

Lets do it...

Fabia's:

xa0sx - Black vRS

SimonK24 - Black vRS

ROS53Y - Blue vRS

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It's near impossible to sort out the stand like that due to people arriving at different times and then disappearing off / me not knowing who owns which car.

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1. dvere - PAID!!

2. Octaviavrs1984 - Octy vRS

3. JASON EX.VAGOWNERS "JCS356" - Seat Cordoba - PAID!!

4. tonyb8063 - Octy vRS 1 - PAID!!

5. Thirdtimeluck - Fabia vRS - PAID!!

6. "Stealth225" EX VAGOWNERS - R32 - PAID!!

7. rockhopper - Yeti - PAID!!

8. vRS Joe - Fabia vRS PAID!!

9. SimonK24 - Fabia vRS - PAID!!

10. Reavenger - Fabia vRS II - PAID!!

11. Kendo KYY - PAID!!

12. xa0s - Fabia vRS - PAID!!

13. CT17 - Fabia VRS SE - PAID!!

14. korban - Fabia VRS SE - hopefully paying when back from holiday

15. Pastyboy #2 - Ibiza - PAID!!

16. M12MKD (polocoupe) - Octavia Combi vRS - PAID!!

17. Jonny5ive - TRD Fabia vRS - with black bits - PAID!!

18. Nobafett - FL Octy vRS Tsi - PAID!!

19. PastyBoy - PastyWagon #1 - PAID!!

20. ROS53Y - Fabia vRS SE - PAID!!

21. BusyBeingBorn - Fabia vRS - PAID!!

22. grr666- Fabia vRS - PAID!!

23. chrisw_vrs - Fabia vRS - paying end of the month

24. Andyrew - mk1 octavia elegance - PAID!!

25. Big Gray - Ibiza Cupra - PAID!!

26. jr123 - Fabia vRS LE - PAID!!

27. Pistonheads #1 - Alfa GTA 3.2 - PAID!!

28. Pistonheads #2 - Audi A3 1.8t - PAID!!

(limit)

Clubstand only

1.Lloyd55vrs

2.Mrs_Jonny5ive and Jonny5ive_JR

3.Hedge - Octavia

4.Mrs Grr - Fabia SDI

5. Octygone and co. Yeti...will probably bring cake as well

6. L-y-k - Fabia Bohemia Combi

7. Andyrew - mk1 octavia VRS

8. Parker_fabia - Fabia 1.4 MPI

9. Ultima

10.LLFoolJ and JR. - Superb

11. s_matt fabia

12. Soot1e- Fabia VRS.

13. GabiS - Fabia

Hi Jason,

Sorry for being late, just got back from a 3000 mile trip to Hungary and back.

Just sent payment via Paypal

Cheers

Karl :thumbup:

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Thanks :)

1. dvere - PAID!!

2. Octaviavrs1984 - Octy vRS

3. JASON EX.VAGOWNERS "JCS356" - Seat Cordoba - PAID!!

4. tonyb8063 - Octy vRS 1 - PAID!!

5. Thirdtimeluck - Fabia vRS - PAID!!

6. "Stealth225" EX VAGOWNERS - R32 - PAID!!

7. rockhopper - Yeti - PAID!!

8. vRS Joe - Fabia vRS PAID!!

9. SimonK24 - Fabia vRS - PAID!!

10. Reavenger - Fabia vRS II - PAID!!

11. Kendo KYY - PAID!!

12. xa0s - Fabia vRS - PAID!!

13. CT17 - Fabia VRS SE - PAID!!

14. korban - Fabia VRS SE - PAID!!

15. Pastyboy #2 - Ibiza - PAID!!

16. M12MKD (polocoupe) - Octavia Combi vRS - PAID!!

17. Jonny5ive - TRD Fabia vRS - with black bits - PAID!!

18. Nobafett - FL Octy vRS Tsi - PAID!!

19. PastyBoy - PastyWagon #1 - PAID!!

20. ROS53Y - Fabia vRS SE - PAID!!

21. BusyBeingBorn - Fabia vRS - PAID!!

22. grr666- Fabia vRS - PAID!!

23. chrisw_vrs - Fabia vRS - paying end of the month

24. Andyrew - mk1 octavia elegance - PAID!!

25. Big Gray - Ibiza Cupra - PAID!!

26. jr123 - Fabia vRS LE - PAID!!

27. Pistonheads #1 - Alfa GTA 3.2 - PAID!!

28. Pistonheads #2 - Audi A3 1.8t - PAID!!

(limit)

Clubstand only

1.Lloyd55vrs

2.Mrs_Jonny5ive and Jonny5ive_JR

3.Hedge - Octavia

4.Mrs Grr - Fabia SDI

5. Octygone and co. Yeti...will probably bring cake as well

6. L-y-k - Fabia Bohemia Combi

7. Andyrew - mk1 octavia VRS

8. Parker_fabia - Fabia 1.4 MPI

9. Ultima

10.LLFoolJ and JR. - Superb

11. s_matt fabia

12. Soot1e- Fabia VRS.

13. GabiS - Fabia

14. Busybeingborn - Fabia vRS

I should have my LSD fitted by then. :D

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It looks like there is another track spot available if anyone wants it?

1. dvere - PAID!!

2. Octaviavrs1984 - Octy vRS - PAID!!

3. JASON EX.VAGOWNERS "JCS356" - Seat Cordoba - PAID!!

4. tonyb8063 - Octy vRS 1 - PAID!!

5. Thirdtimeluck - Fabia vRS - PAID!!

6. "Stealth225" EX VAGOWNERS - R32 - PAID!!

7. rockhopper - Yeti - PAID!!

8. vRS Joe - Fabia vRS PAID!!

9. SimonK24 - Fabia vRS - PAID!!

10. Reavenger - Fabia vRS II - PAID!!

11. Kendo KYY - PAID!!

12. xa0s - Fabia vRS - PAID!!

13. CT17 - Fabia VRS SE - PAID!!

14. korban - Fabia VRS SE - PAID!!

15. Pastyboy #2 - Ibiza - PAID!!

16. M12MKD (polocoupe) - Octavia Combi vRS - PAID!!

17. Jonny5ive - TRD Fabia vRS - with black bits - PAID!!

18. Nobafett - FL Octy vRS Tsi - PAID!!

19. PastyBoy - PastyWagon #1 - PAID!!

20. ROS53Y - Fabia vRS SE - PAID!!

21. TRACK SPOT PAID FOR, BUT AVAILABLE AS NOT WANTED

22. grr666- Fabia vRS - PAID!!

23. chrisw_vrs - Fabia vRS - paying end of the month

24. Andyrew - mk1 octavia elegance - PAID!!

25. Big Gray - Ibiza Cupra - PAID!!

26. jr123 - Fabia vRS LE - PAID!!

27. Pistonheads #1 - Alfa GTA 3.2 - PAID!!

28. Pistonheads #2 - Audi A3 1.8t - PAID!!

(limit)

Clubstand only

1.Lloyd55vrs

2.Mrs_Jonny5ive and Jonny5ive_JR

3.Hedge - Octavia

4.Mrs Grr - Fabia SDI

5. Octygone and co. Yeti...will probably bring cake as well

6. L-y-k - Fabia Bohemia Combi

7. Andyrew - mk1 octavia VRS

8. Parker_fabia - Fabia 1.4 MPI

9. Ultima

10.LLFoolJ and JR. - Superb

11. s_matt fabia

12. Soot1e- Fabia VRS.

13. GabiS - Fabia

14. Busybeingborn - Fabia vRS

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BUMP! Lots of clubstand room. :) Just Chris to pay for his time now.

1. dvere - PAID!!

2. Octaviavrs1984 - Octy vRS - PAID!!

3. JASON EX.VAGOWNERS "JCS356" - Seat Cordoba - PAID!!

4. tonyb8063 - Octy vRS 1 - PAID!!

5. Thirdtimeluck - Fabia vRS - PAID!!

6. "Stealth225" EX VAGOWNERS - R32 - PAID!!

7. rockhopper - Yeti - PAID!!

8. vRS Joe - Fabia vRS PAID!!

9. SimonK24 - Fabia vRS - PAID!!

10. Reavenger - Fabia vRS II - PAID!!

11. Kendo KYY - PAID!!

12. xa0s - Fabia vRS - PAID!!

13. CT17 - Fabia VRS SE - PAID!!

14. korban - Fabia VRS SE - PAID!!

15. Pastyboy #2 - Ibiza - PAID!!

16. M12MKD (polocoupe) - Octavia Combi vRS - PAID!!

17. Jonny5ive - TRD Fabia vRS - with black bits - PAID!!

18. Nobafett - FL Octy vRS Tsi - PAID!!

19. PastyBoy - PastyWagon #1 - PAID!!

20. ROS53Y - Fabia vRS SE - PAID!!

21. Octaviavrs1984's mate - Audi S3 - PAID!!

22. grr666- Fabia vRS - PAID!!

23. chrisw_vrs - Fabia vRS - paying end of the month

24. Andyrew - mk1 octavia elegance - PAID!!

25. Big Gray - Ibiza Cupra - PAID!!

26. jr123 - Fabia vRS LE - PAID!!

27. Pistonheads #1 - Alfa GTA 3.2 - PAID!!

28. Pistonheads #2 - Audi A3 1.8t - PAID!!

(limit)

Clubstand only

1.Lloyd55vrs

2.Mrs_Jonny5ive and Jonny5ive_JR

3.Hedge - Octavia

4.Mrs Grr - Fabia SDI

5. Octygone and co. Yeti...will probably bring cake as well

6. L-y-k - Fabia Bohemia Combi

7. Andyrew - mk1 octavia VRS

8. Parker_fabia - Fabia 1.4 MPI

9. Ultima

10.LLFoolJ and JR. - Superb

11. s_matt fabia

12. Soot1e- Fabia VRS.

13. GabiS - Fabia

14. Busybeingborn - Fabia vRS

I knew I forgot something, Paige and I will be on the clubstand, but I am not sure if taking both cars yet.

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