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Good to hear

Should be like new

Gotta run her in lad. She'll go like the wind. On start up the engine was sucking in more air from the intake before the incident

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  • I seem to remember the car made more than 220bhp when Michael @ jabba did it and he backed it off and sorted the map out to stop spiking. I have the print out of this also, so I don't think it a duff

Who mapped it?

Its s head off job to get an injector out and tested so i very much doubt it

I'd hope they would do a vcds scan before it was mapped to check they arent mapping a car with pre-existing issues

Viezu mapped the car.

need to get this sorted as the car is definately down on power and smoking loads

Hmm thats the thing, fingers crossed, cars completely fudge me off

Viezu mapped the car.

need to get this sorted as the car is definately down on power and smoking loads

WHO?? Do come again

My hybrid was mapped by some polish dude down a back street,

Only made 195bhp and smoked like a chimney, got it mapped by richard washbrook and it was alot more powerful and ran clean

My hybrid was mapped by some polish dude down a back street,

Only made 195bhp and smoked like a chimney, got it mapped by richard washbrook and it was alot more powerful and ran clean

Well these guys look like a good quality company, awsome dyno equipment, would of thought they could do a good job

these guys http://www.viezu.com/

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Well u guys I'll let u know, when I've got her run in we need to sort a rr day. See the no smoke no poke theory

Well u guys I'll let u know, when I've got her run in we need to sort a rr day. See the no smoke no poke theory

What team are you on? I must have missed something...

Viezu mapped the car.

need to get this sorted as the car is definately down on power and smoking loads

has it smoked that much since u got it mapped or has it gotten gradually worse. if its black smoking badly and down on power, id be checking your boost pipes as the symptoms suggest a boost leak from somewhere in the pipework.

p.s if you dont mind of course sy as im in greater manc any chance of a passenger ride once she is run in as i want to see what it goes like before i start throwing money at engine mods.

thanks ste

has it smoked that much since u got it mapped or has it gotten gradually worse. if its black smoking badly and down on power, id be checking your boost pipes as the symptoms suggest a boost leak from somewhere in the pipework.

p.s if you dont mind of course sy as im in greater manc any chance of a passenger ride once she is run in as i want to see what it goes like before i start throwing money at engine mods.

thanks ste

Good advice will check all the pipes tomorrow :thumbup:

Yeah no worries to the passenger ride.

As to the side? Come again, the smoke comes with the power, extra fuel keeps the turbo cool. I thought every one knew that.

You can't really get big power without smoke. But I wouldn't mind a nosey around the now disallowed leon btcc car. They must be running some seriously ported inlets

Sorry but that's rubbish. It will increase the EGTs.

Haha u lads know nothing really, I had cracks in my head. It had blown across all 4. Plus cracks across the inlet and exhaust valves plus the glow plugs. Me and my mate have done it and she runs well now.

It was probs down on power also

Not really..... Too much fuel.

Yeah no worries to the passenger ride.

As to the side? Come again, the smoke comes with the power, extra fuel keeps the turbo cool. I thought every one knew that.

You can't really get big power without smoke. But I wouldn't mind a nosey around the now disallowed leon btcc car. They must be running some seriously ported inlets

Too much fuel on a diesel = high egts

On a petrol it cools it down, yes.

Thought you were supposed to be an automotive engineer?

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Actually excess smoke is power wasted, it's partially unburnt fuel due to a bad map. This "No Smoke No Poke" statement is pure BS. As for excess fuel from a diesel cooling the turbo, I have carpet burns on my elbows from when I fell over laughing. large smoke = high EGT = exhaust side of turbo getting VERY hot, and that heat has to transfer to turbo shaft, seals, bearing, and air side as well.

To crack a head and piston takes some ABUSE of the PD130 lump. I would say your car is a testament of how NOT to modify a VRS

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All mapping was done at jabba, so who knows.

I have read a pd150 cracked a piston also and the cam and buckets wearing just like mine has

Jabba powah! Maybe a custom oscarli map by richard washbrook may help this from happening again?

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Well all this negativity around jabbasport maps could be confirmed if they shed some light on this post??

Well all this negativity around jabbasport maps could be confirmed if they shed some light on this post??

It's not about just the map of the car, it's a combination of mods that I doubt have been fully trialled. Take your exhaust for example. Normally, decat on a diesel isn't going to cause a problem, unless the turbo is of the variable nozzle Type (VNT) which it is on the PD130 engine. You will often read that the less back pressure in an exhaust is a good thing, normally it is, but not with VNT turbos. Without a certain level of back pressure, they can over spool. Not only does that put strain on the turbo, it messes up the fuel air ratio, as the software in the fuel ECU just cannot keep up with the boost spikes. The ECU has an adaptive function, was this disabled when the car was mapped? or is the ECU trying to learn implausible data due to performance outside of the OEM data packet.

If you believe that excess diesel cools a turbo, then sorry, but I doubt you have any great knowledge about tuning cars. "Smog Trail" at the end of your signature doesn't help the cause either. Do you have any children?

The money thrown at these so called tuning sessions, would be put to much better use, if you simply buy a car, designed with the power you want. Cheaper in the long run, and safer as well.

One things for sure, a cracked head and piston, is a serious failure on a PD130 lump. The loads on the conrods, big and main end shells, must be astronomical. Jabba Sport have a good reputation and rightly so, they do good work. As your car has eaten a turbo, head and piston, I think you need to look at the complete package and work backwards.

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Everything is fine now thanks.

It has been with the same mods for around 2 years.

As for Running a decat with the vnt turbo then quite possibly every member on here is going to have problems

Everything is fine now thanks.

It has been with the same mods for around 2 years.

As for Running a decat with the vnt turbo then quite possibly every member on here is going to have problems

Why would every member on here have problems, when VERY FEW are running a decat? Would you like a bigger shovel?

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Sure, and you know that haha, for most people it's there first mod along with a intake

Thanks for your replies.

For me the repair isn't that much of a deal tbh, move on

It's not about just the map of the car, it's a combination of mods that I doubt have been fully trialled. Take your exhaust for example. Normally, decat on a diesel isn't going to cause a problem, unless the turbo is of the variable nozzle Type (VNT) which it is on the PD130 engine. You will often read that the less back pressure in an exhaust is a good thing, normally it is, but not with VNT turbos. Without a certain level of back pressure, they can over spool. Not only does that put strain on the turbo, it messes up the fuel air ratio, as the software in the fuel ECU just cannot keep up with the boost spikes. The ECU has an adaptive function, was this disabled when the car was mapped? or is the ECU trying to learn implausible data due to performance outside of the OEM data packet.

If you believe that excess diesel cools a turbo, then sorry, but I doubt you have any great knowledge about tuning cars. "Smog Trail" at the end of your signature doesn't help the cause either. Do you have any children?

The money thrown at these so called tuning sessions, would be put to much better use, if you simply buy a car, designed with the power you want. Cheaper in the long run, and safer as well.

One things for sure, a cracked head and piston, is a serious failure on a PD130 lump. The loads on the conrods, big and main end shells, must be astronomical. Jabba Sport have a good reputation and rightly so, they do good work. As your car has eaten a turbo, head and piston, I think you need to look at the complete package and work backwards.

Plenty of people run decays on vnts.

Provding the maps good, a turbo won't oveboost.

I know this for a fact, my car doesnt overboost, either from a reader plugged into the obd measuirng map, or my aftermarket spa gauge, plumbed into my manifold.

I think it's just a bad map, overfuelling, and perhaps a case of not cooling the engine done properly........ If it's running really hot, then switched off, cracks are gonna propagate.....

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I also bought a drum of methanol and water mix around a month ago.

That has since gone, and I'll run it on water to reduce temps slghtly

My old one did around 50k on hybrid setup

I had a milltek celi 100 cat only issue was an exploding gbox

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