Since the birth of my fabia elegance 1.6crtdi 105bhp, I have been running it on the shell Vpower diesel today I paid £1.49.9p a litre so not cheap, I really don't use it for performance but for its clean fuel tag, so what's your opinion

I only run V power diesel in the VRS as it helps it smoke a bit less.

In the Greenline II I run cheaper diesel as you don't get smoke anyway.

when I used diesel, i found v-power gave about 3mpg more, so it kinda evened out, I was running a remapped 1.9 though...

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Don't feel these 'high power' fuels have any actual benefit and have never seen any report which justifies their use given the higher cost. Don't think VAG insist on them so really don't see the point. Probably now get slated for this statement!

No.

Don't feel these 'high power' fuels have any actual benefit and have never seen any report which justifies their use given the higher cost. Don't think VAG insist on them so really don't see the point. Probably now get slated for this statement!

not at all... I have seen a report! lol... and it showed that lower powered cars of the average joe (they had a 1.6 focus) the posh fuel made no difference at all (so you are right in this respect) ... then they had a turbocharged petrol and found + a few bhp.... then a modded turbo car, that gave about +10bhp... these were all petrol cars

I ran my mapped punto on the same rollers twice with the same mods, and got +7 bhp from standard diesel by using v-power

edit: I think the extra engine protecting detergents may be useful though .... and you are gonna get the new vRS whis skoda reccomend is 98RON fuel, and the book says if you use 95 the ECU will retard the ignition to prevent detonation, reducing power and fuel economy.. I can feel the difference between 95 and 99..

to OP, I would suggest you do your own experiments, if you have run v-power from new, test the next tank for fuel economy, then run a tank of standfard through, then test the second tank of standard ond see if there is a difference!

not at all... I have seen a report! lol... and it showed that lower powered cars of the average joe (they had a 1.6 focus) the posh fuel made no difference at all (so you are right in this respect) ... then they had a turbocharged petrol and found + a few bhp.... then a modded turbo car, that gave about +10bhp... these were all petrol cars

I ran my mapped punto on the same rollers twice with the same mods, and got +7 bhp from standard diesel by using v-power

edit: I think the extra engine protecting detergents may be useful though .... and you are gonna get the new vRS whis skoda reccomend is 98RON fuel, and the book says if you use 95 the ECU will retard the ignition to prevent detonation, reducing power and fuel economy.. I can feel the difference between 95 and 99..

to OP, I would suggest you do your own experiments, if you have run v-power from new, test the next tank for fuel economy, then run a tank of standfard through, then test the second tank of standard ond see if there is a difference!

Never run an remapped car so can't comment nor have I ever seen a decent report give a good benefit from these fuels, not to say there hasn't been one but would have thought that the comapnies would really push any report which gave any decent credibility to the higher cost of higher octane fuel.

Since the birth of my fabia elegance 1.6crtdi 105bhp, I have been running it on the shell Vpower diesel today I paid £1.49.9p a litre so not cheap, I really don't use it for performance but for its clean fuel tag, so what's your opinion

I used chip fat in my old oil-burner. Our local chippie was most obliging. He had to change the oil in the fryer anyway every 3 months or 5000 cods, whichever came sooner.

I only got 5mpg as I spent all my time in town trying to shake off 100 or so cats that would chase the car due to the fishy smell from the exhaust. I kept 14 Rotties in the car (American strain, German trained, detailed de-tailing) to protect me from the cats but the demister couldn’t keep up with the dog-breath exhalations and I sadly crashed regularly due to my inability to see out of the windows.

Ahh Happy days.

I'm going to get slated for this but always use Quality fuels, petrol or Derv

Not the supermarket Cr@p.

"Hides behind sofa"

Reports on the variation between standard and 'performance' fuels exist.

Some years ago EVO magazine ran such a test and proved, via inspection of fuel system & combustion components, that performance fuels did benefit the user.

Whilst the specific improvement in bhp was negligible (up to 5%) with use, the main benefit was that the detergents in the superior fuels kept the fuel & combustion systems cleaner i.e. no deposits or gumming-up of injectors or valve stems hence an engine run regularly, even exclusively, on these fuels maintained its original state of tune and therefore was more fuel efficient and sprightly over a measured period of time.

Just a thought I think the the DPF cars would benefit vpower diesel as its cleaner ?

I am a fairly high mileage driver and over the years have tried all the 'Super' fuels. The bottom line for me is I have never noticed any difference except for possibly slightly smoother running. Certainly economy doesn't seem to change :(

Been there, tried it in both my current Superb and previous Octavia and noticed no difference at all apart from my bank account being depleated faster with the premium fuel. I now run the superb on whatever I can get locally the cheapest and have never had a problem.

Well I have really good mileage mid to high 60 mpg at 70+ at 2-21/2k rpm so really efficient but if I take cruise to 60 mph I will get 67-70 mpg at 1,800-2k rpm, she's done 4k now so still running in really, I reckon this is because I'm running the vpower ?, even greenline gets only a little bit more mpg ? plus I've got a lot of torque she will pull like a train , placebo ? But definatly seems as if the vpower adds a little

FWIW I don't follow the logic of choosing a diesel, presumably due to economics, and then voluntarily buying such expensive fuel.

I used chip fat in my old oil-burner. Our local chippie was most obliging. He had to change the oil in the fryer anyway every 3 months or 5000 cods, whichever came sooner.

I only got 5mpg as I spent all my time in town trying to shake off 100 or so cats that would chase the car due to the fishy smell from the exhaust. I kept 14 Rotties in the car (American strain, German trained, detailed de-tailing) to protect me from the cats but the demister couldn’t keep up with the dog-breath exhalations and I sadly crashed regularly due to my inability to see out of the windows.

Ahh Happy days.

PMSL thanks for that

FWIW I don't follow the logic of choosing a diesel, presumably due to economics, and then voluntarily buying such expensive fuel.

When money's no problem just doesn't matter my reason for using is not necessarily for economics or performance but a more smoother drive and cleaner burn leading to a better engine?

Just a thought I think the the DPF cars would benefit vpower diesel as its cleaner ?

It just means the DPF cleans itself every 42 days instead of 40 probably.

Can't see the point.

It just means the DPF cleans itself every 42 days instead of 40 probably.

Can't see the point.

I thought it was roughly every 100 miles? But I've done 4k and only smelt it a handful of times, it runs sweet so I'll still use the champagne and leave the house white to the rest

When money's no problem just doesn't matter my reason for using is not necessarily for economics or performance but a more smoother drive and cleaner burn leading to a better engine?

Ever heard of petrol!?

Edited 25 November, 201114 yr by pearce_jj

Never used Vpower as its a bit like hens teeth round here. Only one garage on my route and only one of the pumps has it.

The only premium fuel I ever use now and again is Total Excellium. I cant honestly say it drives any different, maybe a little less rattly when cold but that could be placebo.

What isnt in any doubt is the regen frequency. I know for sure when mine does it, its around 120 miles in summer and 110 in winter. When using excellium you can add about 15 miles to each of those. Excellium must produce less particulates so safe to assume it at least burns cleaner ? I cant claim any other benefit.

At worst the odd tank of 'good stuff' costs a few extra pennies for no benefit. At best its keeping the engine internals clean...egr etc. People have invested in new cars and no doubt use high quality oils etc, cant criticise for extending that to the fuel they choose to use.

Ever heard of petrol!?

Long term deisel will out live petrol engine by 100k and diesel is a cleaner fuel plus I will get 70mpg if I try what will the fuel of Satan get maybe 50 if your lucky

Diesel engines have traditionally lasted a bit longer than petrols so thats a great benefit to the 6th or 7th owner which has to be a marvellous bonus for them.

Diesel is clearly a cleaner fuel as it makes my boots shine!

Yes the 70mpg carefully driven figure I can agree with this, my 1982 Golf D achieved this. Clearly lots of development work has helped to make a 30 year newer, lighter, design achieve the same figures. Well done VAG here.

No.

Don't feel these 'high power' fuels have any actual benefit and have never seen any report which justifies their use given the higher cost. Don't think VAG insist on them so really don't see the point. Probably now get slated for this statement!

Entirely agree, I usually use the basic Shell diesel, but recently I keep getting 5/10ppl vouchers off SWMBO from her shopping exploits so have been using them...

There is no more stored energy in V Power, but it is designed to burn much much cleaner and is a real bonus if you have a DPF, as Seb says. Any extra power you do get is really only down to the fact it will keep your engine super clean inside, especially the valves and pistons. This all encourages better economy too as the injectors just gleam and sparkle, maintain their spread pattern and deliver full pressure, which also extends their life considerably. Cars run on lesser quality fuels don't get this benefit and owners don't notice that economy and performance degrades very slowly over time until it's too late and the injectors need replacing or the carbon gum on the valves isn't removed by a engine cleaner additive and a strip down is required. Owners are generally very happy running cheap fuel and if you do it for a long time you actually don't really notice how much the performance and economy degrades, it's such a slow process. There are plenty of reports out there from the motoring press showing how this happens, but many of the reports you read seem to focus entirely on the short term economy side which if some one just switches to a new high quality fuel for a couple of tanks doesn't much improve the mpg so they get the impression that fuels like V Power are a rip off. They really are not. They work well in my experience and from what I've read.

Thanks for this...best laugh I've had for a couple of days!!

I used chip fat in my old oil-burner. Our local chippie was most obliging. He had to change the oil in the fryer anyway every 3 months or 5000 cods, whichever came sooner.

I only got 5mpg as I spent all my time in town trying to shake off 100 or so cats that would chase the car due to the fishy smell from the exhaust. I kept 14 Rotties in the car (American strain, German trained, detailed de-tailing) to protect me from the cats but the demister couldn’t keep up with the dog-breath exhalations and I sadly crashed regularly due to my inability to see out of the windows.

Ahh Happy days.

Edited 26 November, 201114 yr by Estate Man