I love F1 so how do I get it next year for next to nought? I am so pi££ed with the bbc and sky for shafting joe public again so any ideas ?

They didn't shaft you, F1 did by asking too much for the BBC to afford. I work most weekends so only watch the recorded replay. As long as they show the bulk of the race, say 60 minutes or so, I think I will be happy. I think we should wait and see what the new coverage is like

Edited 26 November, 201114 yr by Lady Elanore

Hmm... not sure what I can say on a public forum. Can think of one way which many do with football, especially when in work already but it is illegal.

I won't be paying for it and I'm quite surprised at how many fans said in the beginning that they wouldn't pay, but now say they will be and then have the nerve to tell me I'm not a "real F1 fan" or that I'm tight for not paying it. Firstly I'm not paying for it on principle and secondly I can't afford it. Since my parents have Virgin and not Sky, their sports packages are silly money anyway and to change to Sky isn't worth it. It's not a few quid it's several hundred quid every year!

Most of the races will be on the BBC and the rest I can either be happy with highlights or view it by "other means". I do want to go to a race next year so if Sky haven't sucked all my interest out of the Sport I may do that. Probably Hockenheim since it was Nurburgring this year.

Bernie you ****

It's not all bad news. SKY are showing F1 free to all HD subscribers whether they have the Sports package or not as well as showing other motorsport on it too.

Here is a link that gives more info.

It would still be at least £40 a month for me and that's without the costs of switching. I'm really happy with Virgin broadband and really don't have to switch to Sky broadband and crappy home hub style routers. A separate modem and Linksys router does me fine.

It would still be at least £40 a month for me and that's without the costs of switching. I'm really happy with Virgin broadband and really don't have to switch to Sky broadband and crappy home hub style routers. A separate modem and Linksys router does me fine.

Perhaps Virgin will do a deal with SKY, but since they wasted a lot of your money with their rubbish F1 team perhaps they wont. Anyhoo, time will tell, fingers crossed eh

Excellent, I was considering HD anyway so now its a deffo for the new year

Excellent, I was considering HD anyway so now its a deffo for the new year

Pleased it has cheered at least one Brisky soul up

I will use the same method I have used this year. Yes, I will be brave and say what someone else wouldnt.

(cough)torrent(cough)

P2p ? Picture is crap

Streaming I was thinking of. Someone mentioned Germany streaming it for free in hd anyway and then listen to 5 live for commentary

P2P picture quality crap??? I have watched the BBC HD output for every race this year, and picture quality has been excellent I think you are mistaking shaky camcorder recorded films at the cinema for the real thing; recorded when broadcast, recoded, and uploaded. I do wish I could find an uploader who cuts the 2 hours of crap off of the beginning, and the hour of crap off of the end; I want to watch the race, not the waffle.

As me-learned-friend above states, P2P has come a long way since it was mostly used to pass dodgy shaky cam recordings around.

It's simply a non-centralised distribution system - the content can be of any quality, including 1080p HD.

Streaming I was thinking of. Someone mentioned Germany streaming it for free in hd anyway and then listen to 5 live for commentary

Any more info ??

P2P picture quality crap??? I have watched the BBC HD output for every race this year, and picture quality has been excellent I think you are mistaking shaky camcorder recorded films at the cinema for the real thing; recorded when broadcast, recoded, and uploaded. I do wish I could find an uploader who cuts the 2 hours of crap off of the beginning, and the hour of crap off of the end; I want to

watch the race, not the waffle.

We're do you find the up loaders I only get around 6mg download speed would this be enough

I manage on a dodgy 2MB connection shared with the missus who is usually watching a film at the same time. use google to find what you want, just add the word "torrent" to the search. Several of the best torrent sites are blocked by the GFWoC, so I cannot tell you which place is the best source for the files.

Sorry for the occaisional lack of formatting on my posts; this website relies on Googleapi.com, which is sometimes blocked by the GFWoC, and stops the entire site from loading, so I have to disable it.

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the news that its free on hd sounds great.

Wonder what the coverage will be like given most of the ex itv crew see defecting the BBC to sky.

P2P picture quality crap??? I have watched the BBC HD output for every race this year, and picture quality has been excellent I think you are mistaking shaky camcorder recorded films at the cinema for the real thing; recorded when broadcast, recoded, and uploaded. I do wish I could find an uploader who cuts the 2 hours of crap off of the beginning, and the hour of crap off of the end; I want to watch the race, not the waffle.

unfortunatly we don't all have the luxury of decent broadband/cable speeds. don't think the 1/2 meg we get would cope very well :S Tried that torrent thingy once and it took all night to download a 2 hrs film :(

Torrent speeds are reliant on your isp not not throttling them to death, although I will admit 1/2MB is a bit too slow for streaming. Back on my 6MB connection in the UK, I regularly get the full 6MB available on uTorrent; but that is the advantage of paying a bit more for a small isp and not a "cheap as chips" offering from one of the big boys, who are well known for throttling anything and everything they dont like to death.

I think the only other way (other than sky) is to get a point a satellite dish over to 19.2e and pick up the RTL signal. Haven't done it myself as it requires a different dish. It would probably work out quite cheap if you did it yourself and you already have a satellite receiver.

There are several guides on some of the AV forums and on digitalspy.

They didn't shaft you, F1 did by asking too much for the BBC to afford. I work most weekends so only watch the recorded replay. As long as they show the bulk of the race, say 60 minutes or so, I think I will be happy. I think we should wait and see what the new coverage is like

Well you're going to get live and highlights for the early ones at 2pm, so pretty much what most people do anyway.

The rest you get full highlights at 5:30ish, which again isn't bad.

IMHO the best way to get it back on FTA is to not buy the sky F1 and just watch the BBC. If you do that and sky don't make money from it, they won't bid for it again.

I heard something about sky dropping it in Germany as nobody was buying.

FWIW it will all be live on Radio 5 Live (now on DAB/TV) and if you have a normal astra sat, you can pick up the pictures from German TV and listen to that in sync

the news that its free on hd sounds great.

Wonder what the coverage will be like given most of the ex itv crew see defecting the BBC to sky.

Funnily enough the presentation has always been done my BBC crew. When ITV got the contract they used BBC crews and BBC OBs for presentation (and Silverstone race coverage before Bernie took it away) and later when BBC OBs was sold to SiS, the same staff covered the event for BBC TV. Even the freelancers they used were mostly ex BBC or worked very regularly with the BBC.I haven't heard who has won the SKY contract for presentation yet though, I assumed Visions would get it, but if you have heard I'd be interested in hearing. The major downside to all this, seems to be Mr Brundle will up sticks to SKY and that just seems wrong somehow?

Well you're going to get live and highlights for the early ones at 2pm, so pretty much what most people do anyway.

The rest you get full highlights at 5:30ish, which again isn't bad.

IMHO the best way to get it back on FTA is to not buy the sky F1 and just watch the BBC. If you do that and sky don't make money from it, they won't bid for it again.

I heard something about sky dropping it in Germany as nobody was buying.

FWIW it will all be live on Radio 5 Live (now on DAB/TV) and if you have a normal astra sat, you can pick up the pictures from German TV and listen to that in sync

I am interested to see how SKY will make much money from it, as they promise to avoid adverts during the race (the peak selling time). It makes me believe that this is a loss leader that will later become part of a subscription package, once people have got used to F1 on SKY and they have shown you how good their coverage is (obviously that remains to be seen, but they have a good innovative track record) :(

I have Sky HD so I guess I don't have to do anything

I have Sky HD so I guess I don't have to do anything

Give it a couple of years and you'll be paying extra for every type of sport you want. What with there being an F1 channel, I expect it to be an extra pay option, if not this year then soon.