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Good result. The surround removal gets easier the more you do it really.

On the radio codes, yes if you want to sell the Bolero you'll need to get the code generated by a Skoda dealer.

Glad Skoda Parts came up with the goods for you too :thumbup:

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  • yes its getting pretty boring. Until I am told otherwise officially which does not include a sales call from a dealer I will go by the book. Well based on what you're saying about it being out of dat

  • ah jaysus lads, I think yee need to agree to dis agree on this one

  • I think the thread title change encompassed it well enough lol. Annoyingly I didn't take a measurement off the trip before I pulled the battery to do the radio so I don't know exactly how much I've d

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Now that I know that the top retaining cips are aiming toward the radio It'll be much easier, I just assumed they would all face outwards like they do the rest of the way around.

I'll get on to Skoda about a code for the Bolero.

Just had a bit of a brown trousers moment, went out to the car to see if I could hold setup for 30 secs to see the details (I could) and when I turned the ignition on I got a beep and ESP Fail on the dash. I think it had been doing this since I first disconnected the battery and put it back because I'd heard a beep but hadn't been looking at the Maxidot since I was playing with the radio. Went upstairs and got all my tools to remove the radio in case it was the cause for some bizarre reason and decided to just drive around the block first, ESP warning lights vanished about 10 seconds after I started reversing off the drive! I've shut it off and on again and no sign. Will have to keep an eye for that again just in case.

The firmware on the Columbus is only 2724 so it doesn't have the post code option, found the 2760 firmware and it's updating now. Apparently that won't wipe the maps so we shall see.

Very strangely when I first put the disk in (keys out) it went through it's sequence and then came up with a screen saying that it can;t update because the disk and the target are already on the same version, press buttons to reset. So I reset it, went into the 30 sec setup menu and took photos of all the screens, put the same disk back in and then it went through and wanted to update just fine.

First screen

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SW number from the setup screen

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The acceptance screen once I tried again

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And how far it got before I got bored watching

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I just went to check on it and it had spat the disk out asking for new media to try again. I popped the same disk back in and it carried on from 5% through the APPL bar and I watched it continue as normal through to about 5% of the HDD bar until I got bored again. I wonder if the disk heating up in this temperature and through spinning constantly is what causes some people some problems with the disk being spat out half way through like I just had.

Will keep an eye on it.

EDIT: HDD and Radio complete, 35% through MPEG now.

EDIT: Well the update is complete and everything seems to be working. Oh except the navigation since it wiped the maps despite the OP in the thread saying "All the above Firmware will leave the Maps and HDD data intact." How frustrating. Glad the firmware is done and working though.

ESP light issue is related to you disconnecting the battery yes. Equivalent to a full 'cold' boot for the car, to give it an IT analogy. So sensors etc will need to sort themselves out again. As you've found, 30 secs or so of driving and everything should be well again.

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V8 maps are transferring to the Columbus now, Pioneer radio is up for sale on fleabay, just waiting on Allams to get back to me about a code for my Bolero. I think it's a little off charging people £37 for a code for the radio they own in a car they just bought for £13000! Especially since the book for said radio doesn't mention that it will cost anything, just that they have to connect to the system to get it!

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Maps transferred over just fine. Gave the navigation it's first try tonight when i went to pick the wife up. I knew the route anyway. Used the POI to get the train station as the destination, then the postcode to get to her sisters and then the "home" option to et home from there. Very good all round, liked that it changed the route based on the traffic info it was getting (accurate, just a minute too late and the delay was only a couple of minutes anyway).

Will give it more work on my journey to work and home over the next 5 nights.

I'm liking the cruise control too, even on the 30 and 40 roads around here.

Driving seems so peaceful now, In the Focus I always seemed to be accelerating but in this there just isn't any need. The power is there if I want it, but it can waft along quietly until that time comes.

Just noticed that there was a voicemail from Allams this morning asking how I was getting on with the car. The email I sent them this afternoon about the Bolero code seems perfectly timed!

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Please to report that the fascia arrived from Skoda Parts and it was indeed correct. The Columbus now looks like part of the car!

So 1Z0858069CQN77 (1Z0 858 069 CQN77) is the part number.

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Spot on :thumbup:

Just wondering, why did you replace Bolero for Columbus ?

Purely for sat nav is it or am I totally off track ;)

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Yep purely for the satnav. With the L&K being as specced out as it is and with the couple of options added by the guy who bought it new, the sat nav was the only thing missing from the car really (imo). I'm very pleased with the Columbus and I've not even looked at adding any custom POIs and stuff. The ones that came with the V8 maps were already quite comprehensive.

Thanks to Wardy and everyone else who helped out with answers and stuff in this thread. Very much appreciated and I'm very happy with the car thus far. The last 60 miles I've averaged about 32mpg and that is in traffic going to work near St Pauls in London. Looking forward to seeing what it can do on my run to my other workplace in Chiswick which is all 40-60mph dual carriageway and much less stop start.

What I do really like is that it usually shifts at just 2,100 RPM but if I want the extra power it's there in spades.

No worries, any time :)

Glad you've got everything sorted out. Good to see brand new owners and members on here getting stuck right in with stuff like this :thumbup:

Glad all sorted and it looks good, now all you have to do is get all your music transferred onto the HDD then you will be well away.

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Got about 2gb on there already. I like some music but I'm not a 30gb kind of person. I think everything we have on the server only totals 10gb and most of that isn't mine!

Still not got a reply from Linda @ Allams about the Bolero radio code which is a little annoying. Even a "Sorry, that's how it is" would have been nice. Perhaps this week I'll get something as I did only email her late on Friday IIRC.

Car will get it's first wash on Wednesday. Not got time for a full wash/clay/seal/wax so two buckets and my mitts will have to suffice for a week. Quite looking forward to it!

Go on then, how do you expect Sharp to know I have one of their blueray players? Unless I happen to be dum enough to go out of my way to register the product and provide all of my details to their marketing department. Anyway should the drive belt go on my blueray I don't think it would do £2k worth of damage or completely destroy itself.

Skoda do inform you of the belt needing changing at 4 years! When you take the car for its 4 year service.

It's all a big gamble but if you had a dead cert for the winner why would wait a few years until it was ready for the glue factory? IMO better safe than sorry.

Skoda have your details as they write to you regarding recalls. I never bought my octavia from a skoda dealer and it will never go there to be serviced as long as I draw breath. I had it changed at 80k as the book suggest and the belt was like new but the stitching had started to fray.

Just to note it cast me £180 for the belt and tensioners changed at an independent, some people have quoted £400 from the dealers!? What a rip off!

Yes they do, for my cars. Your not listening to what I'm saying.

As it is Skoda UK who support your UK warranty then they can chose the intervals, irrespective of what the rest of Europe or the VAG group is offering or what is written in your two year old manual.

Skoda UK could annouce tomorrow that the interval is 1 year. If you wanted to maintain your warranty then you'd have to change the cambelt annually. It is your responsibility to check for the latest changes to any service schedules not Skoda UK's. There are plenty of mistakes in my manual but I won't be expecting a letter from Skoda anytime soon :rofl: .

No one is forcing you to ever change your cambelt, that is your choice, the point I'm trying to make is that Skoda UK are communicating 4 years through their authorised dealer network and via their customer services department so for UK customers it is infact gospel.

True they could change it for new cars however if you have a service book supplied with your car that doesn't state 4 years then they have to abide by it, it's not what you know, it's what you can prove and unless they write to you then they have to support what's in the book.

Just to note it cast me £180 for the belt and tensioners changed at an independent, some people have quoted £400 from the dealers!? What a rip off!

That is one extreme to the other though. My local Skoda dealer will price match with local independents as long as the quote includes the use of genuine parts.

If you bought your Skoda privately and haven't ever taken it to a Skoda dealer then they will have no way of knowing you own the car so you'll never receive any recall notices.

Unless they write to you then they have to support what's in the book.

Not when there are disclaimers.

A direct quote from my service book:

"The inspection service described is correct at the time of going to press. Modifications to this may subsequently be made for technical reasons.

Your Skoda Service Partner has up-to-date information on the inspection service."

It is therefore your responsibility to confirm the latest service requirements with your local retailer or Skoda UK.

Not when there are disclaimers.

A direct quote from my service book:

"The inspection service described is correct at the time of going to press. Modifications to this may subsequently be made for technical reasons.

Your Skoda Service Partner has up-to-date information on the inspection service."

It is therefore your responsibility to confirm the latest service requirements with your local retailer or Skoda UK.

No, they have to tell you since you have no obligation to have it serviced anywhere, the last car I had that was still under manufactures warranty was serviced by an independent as I didn't agree with paying £280 for an oil change and some anti freeze.

How can they be expected to tell you that the service intervals have changed when they don't know who you are, where you live or even if you are driving one of their cars?

Skoda recommend that you have the car serviced at one of their franchised garages for a number of different reasons but they can't force you to, nor can they threaten to invalidate the warranty either providing you are able to prove that genuine parts were used and that they were fitted in accordance with the manufacturers guidelines.

If you didn't buy your Skoda new then the onus is on you to make Skoda aware that you own one of their cars. All you have to do is pop into your local dealer with the V5C and some form of ID with your address on it and they will update the system in seconds. You never know they might also tell you of any revisions to the service intervals such as the 4 year cambelt recommendation too.

How can they be expected to tell you that the service intervals have changed when they don't know who you are, where you live or even if you are driving one of their cars?

Skoda recommend that you have the car serviced at one of their franchised garages for a number of different reasons but they can't force you to, nor can they threaten to invalidate the warranty either providing you are able to prove that genuine parts were used and that they were fitted in accordance with the manufacturers guidelines.

If you didn't buy your Skoda new then the onus is on you to make Skoda aware that you own one of their cars. All you have to do is pop into your local dealer with the V5C and some form of ID with your address on it and they will update the system in seconds. You never know they might also tell you of any revisions to the service intervals such as the 4 year cambelt recommendation too.

They can check with the DVLA hence why I got a recall through for my wife's 5 year old fiat that we bought from an independent, fiat found out, why can't skoda?

You never know they might also tell you of any revisions to the service intervals such as the 4 year cambelt recommendation too.

They won't, as there isn't one. If there is, how come the 2012 service books still have no 4 year change on them?

I bought mine brand new and just last week i had a letter off the purchasing dealer stating that my car is due a service (2 years old in April) and no mention of an amendment to the service schedule......Funny that.....

They can check with the DVLA hence why I got a recall through for my wife's 5 year old fiat that we bought from an independent, fiat found out, why can't skoda?

Because they aren't obliged to.

Some recalls / changes to procedures warrant different levels of effort. Safety recalls for example will likely involve an authority such as VOSA.

Electrical / white goods and baby equipment recalls are often advertised in the national press.

Skoda aren't going to approach the DVLA so that they can tell you to change your cambelt at 4 years.

They won't, as there isn't one. If there is, how come the 2012 service books still have no 4 year change on them?

I bought mine brand new and just last week i had a letter off the purchasing dealer stating that my car is due a service (2 years old in April) and no mention of an amendment to the service schedule......Funny that.....

Yes there is. See post #6. Neither of my service books state time either, just mileage.

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/231511-cambelt-renewal-09-vrs-with-cr-engine/page__p__2728341__hl__cambelt__fromsearch__1#entry2728341

Or simply refer to any one of the hundred cambelt related threads you have posted on misinforming fellow members.

Whether the condition of the belt denotes that it needs changing at 4 years or not is irrelevant. Skoda UK say it should be. Ignore their recommendation at your own risk.

Perhaps your dealer should also have included in the letter that there is a spelling mistake on page 172 of the manual too?

Yes there is. See post #6. Neither of my service books state time either, just mileage.

http://www.briskoda...._1#entry2728341

Or simply refer to any one of the hundred cambelt related threads you have posted on misinforming fellow members.

Whether the condition of the belt denotes that it needs changing at 4 years or not is irrelevant. Skoda UK say it should be. Ignore their recommendation at your own risk.

Perhaps your dealer should also have included in the letter that there is a spelling mistake on page 172 of the manual too?

I haven't misinformed anyone. Skoda haven't recommended 4 years to me.....I bought the car new, my 2 year old service book does not have a time limit and neither do the 2012 models.

SKODA UK HAVENT SAID ANYTHING TO ME.

SKODA UK HAVENT SAID ANYTHING TO ME.

As I mentioned earlier, they aren't obliged to. They put the disclosure in the service book and communicate the latest changes to their dealer network.

A quick email to Skoda UK or a phone call to your local dealer is all it takes.

I think even if Robert Hazlewood knocked on your door and delivered the message in person you wouldn't believe him.

The poor lad that started this thread, proud as punch with his new Octy, and theres more arguing about Cam belt changing here than anywhere else in the forum (my disclaimer: i havnt looked through the entire forum's topics, so there could be more, i just havnt seen them ;-) )

DBT85, I hope you're loving the new wheels :-)

As I mentioned earlier, they aren't obliged to. They put the disclosure in the service book and communicate the latest changes to their dealer network.

A quick email to Skoda UK or a phone call to your local dealer is all it takes.

I think even if Robert Hazlewood knocked on your door and delivered the message in person you wouldn't believe him.

so rather than them send a simple letter, I'm expected to phone the dealer everyday just in case they've changed the regime?

Don't forget that not everyone is a member on here and not everyone is likely to phone a dealer or even know about suk on the off chance that something has changed.

I can also see no disclaimer in the service book. So quite frankly I can't see anything like this standing legally if something did happen after you've followed the service regime.

Suk are also renowned for getting things wrong and sticking up for the dealer regardless of what they have and haven't done.

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