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Getting the best from Dsg - tips

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In my MANUAL I can usually pick which ever gear I want when I want and for as long as I want

Strange, I can do that in my manual too, and I don't have a vRS either........

God it's boring this "get a manual" stuff isn't it?!

Having had a manual VRS prior to the DSG I get both sides of the argument. I do miss the flexibility of the manual but my left knee thanks me for buying a DSG whenever I'm in traffic. Unfortunately I suffer from arthritis and there were days in the past when I couldn't change gear so the DSG is great for me.

It can however be a bit of a dummy and the standard mode really does need some sorting - it's always in too high a gear but Sport revs the nuts off things. Surely somebody at VAG can re-write the software to make it more user friendly?

Overall though I'd choose another DGS if I had the chance because it does suit the diesel's characteristics and I can always have Ben at Shark perform his magic on the box.........

God it's boring this "get a manual" stuff isn't it?!

Having had a manual VRS prior to the DSG I get both sides of the argument. I do miss the flexibility of the manual but my left knee thanks me for buying a DSG whenever I'm in traffic. Unfortunately I suffer from arthritis and there were days in the past when I couldn't change gear so the DSG is great for me.

It can however be a bit of a dummy and the standard mode really does need some sorting - it's always in too high a gear but Sport revs the nuts off things. Surely somebody at VAG can re-write the software to make it more user friendly?

Overall though I'd choose another DGS if I had the chance because it does suit the diesel's characteristics and I can always have Ben at Shark perform his magic on the box.........

Get's on my nerves too. I've a false left leg, so auto is the only option for me to drive.

I have driven all sorts of auto boxes from the one in a proper mini attached to a 998 cc engine, right through to giant v8 monsters in America, and I can honestly say that the DSG is the best driving experience I've ever had. It really does give the best of both worlds.

I'm interested in what you mean by always in too high a gear. Is that a VRs thing? Because I don't have this problem with my Ambiente, it's usually spot on, but then maybe it was designed with the A96 in mind, because normally it cruises just fine in 6, and will stay there until the rpm drops close to 1k at which point it'll shift down, and there's only a couple of points travelling up into the Glens that cause that on my daily commute. The corners on my commute are almost all swoopy top gear affairs, so I've no worries about it's corner behaviour either. There is one which is a third gear right angle over a narrow bridge into a right angle, but I find just lifting off sheds enough speed and rpm to get it down to the correct without any problem, then gently back on the loud pedal on the other side and it changes up smoothly.

It's all about how to drive it. Most people who drive stick think that an auto is unengaging and easy because all the work is done for you. However you need to think ahead a lot more with regards to lifting off for decelerating and downshifts. With practice an auto can easily be as much fun, and can also be more than a match for a manual.</rant>

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Indeed the get a manual is a tad dull...

Personally I think Dsg adds fun to the whole affair. The standard gearbox is a bit cumbersome and when you look at all the threads on clutch woes it makes me feel better for having Dsg.

Sure lots of people only like manual - others only auto... Personally I like both and Dsg is so much better than a normal auto (7speed merc box springs to mind as being very dim witted)

True I'd never buy a ferrari etc with an auto box (despite the trend of both porsche and ferrari only offering them) but for 90% of normal driving Dsg is spot on for a quick gt (opposed to sports car)

The idea of posting the tips was to see if anyone else was 'working' the Dsg to get the best from it.

Ie getting it to respond in the manner you've got used to driving.

The only real problems I see with it is holding gears too long in sport (way past peak torque so off the boil when it does change) and trying to go to low a gear mid corner or changing up mid corner (both sorted by putting into manual).

Reversing the up / down on the stick would be good too as its not the normal orientation for a sequential box layout IMO.

Seems that everyone tuning remaps the box for higher change point, which I assume can only be useful if you have a much bigger turbo moving the boost/breathing 'envelope' higher up the rev range. Something I won't be doing unless I win the lottery and plonk a quaife etc in first

A remap with S modified to change up optimised to power graph would be good and to leave D as it is - relaxed and economic. Happy to help any tuners with a donkey to test ;) I would have thought that this would be relatively easy to do.

When I first got mine I thought the kick down on the accelerator would cause me woes (foot to floor due to lack of power anticipated) but its not much of a problem

I've just been to London this week with work and I must admit the thought of not having Dsg in a city is bonkers.

....Or get a manual!

Hmm, not convinced by all the 'get a manual' posts, firstly you are posting on the wrong topic, secondly, I suspect you would go quicker in a DSG ( although doubt you would admit it )

I have a close ratio 7 speed sequential gearbox which shifts faster, more accurately and with a blip on the down change which replicates a double de-clutch. Drive a Ferrari, it will have the same system, because it's better than a manual with 99% of people driving.

Now to the topic- I have found that quick use of the sequential shift in tiptronic -\+ will allow multiple shifts ( i.e. 5th to 3rd ) while braking, I also noticed that it will auto down-shift for you in tiptronic but hold on the way up- excellent for fast cornering when you don't want to disturb the balance of the car mid corner, it automatically blips the throttle on the downshift meaning you can downshift really quite aggressively and still have revs matched to speed- awesome

My general methodology for fast driving with DSG is to to keep the revs above 4000 for the corner and make use of the speed of the DSG change to up-shift on ( corner ) exit, this surprised me because peak torque is 1500 to 4000 on mine ( meaning you would normally shift at 4000 or before )

If this is all a bit frantic for you then a good old fashion, brake in a straight line then accelerate around the corner ( slow in fast out ) works a treat with DSG as the box shifts down for the bend and optimises gears on the acceleration.

I am not really a fan of left foot braking but am interested if anyone has tried it in a DSG?

Heel and toe works fine though.

All in all v impressed with it.

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I am not really a fan of left foot braking but am interested if anyone has tried it in a DSG?

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Just before Launch (see my earlier tip)

Now to the topic- I have found that quick use of the sequential shift in tiptronic -\+ will allow multiple shifts ( i.e. 5th to 3rd ) while braking,

yup, i like this part too.

within 2 secs, u can b down, from 6th, into 2nd or even 1st gear!

handy for those non-engine braking turns/corners.

Edited by JR RS

Or get a manual.

Or get a manual.

I think the op was looking for tips that aren't documented in the manual? ;-)

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