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I'm a schumi fan he deserves the respect of being 7 times champ

I hadn't noticed....and you can't help everybody. :giggle:

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    Agree with all of that. With regard to force india, I think thats what Di Resta was getting at after the race, he admitted his mistake in Q3 but they messed up the strategy big time this race. Paul wa

I hadn't noticed....and you can't help everybody. :giggle:

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I seem to remember the time he drove from the edge of the track to try and take Damon out - can't recall where it was but that's not someone who's good at driving. I'd like to see his book of excuses too - will have more chapters than a Harry Potter trilogy.

You mean Adelaide 1994, when Hill decided to try and drive a 2m wide car through a 1.9m wide and narrowing gap because he needed to beat Schumi in order to win the World championship?

Remember when he wanted to kick DC's head in and mechanics have to restrain him after he stormed into Macca garage after an off with DC?

Spa 1998, where DC slowed on the racing line in order to "allow Schumi to lap me". DC has since admitted that this was his error (a point which I felt to be the case at the time, because it was an unpredictable thing to do).

He (Schumacher) has now annouced his retirement at the end of the season.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/19826983

Is this the "final" end then?

He has certainly been a fine ambassador for the sport.

I think it is. He's done it all now, had a unprecedented career before first retirement breaking all the records in existance. Then he retired, came back and proved he was till competetive by beating his much younger team mate in a crap car, which now LH will be trying to revitalise. IT was interesting to read that Nikki Lauda convinced LH to jump to Merc. Argumet was that Shumi was not able to develop the Merc into a championship winning so "this a challange for you is, young Padawan!".

I would love to see Shumi as Team Boss in the future!

Terrible news :( he will be missed by most but not all, you know who you are ! A great ambassador to the sport "ALL HAIL CESEAR " a fantastic driver a real shame but better this than putting it in a wall and not surviving, hopefully he will still be in the back room all the best schumi ,love yah xxxxxxxxx

I personally think JB is much better ambassador for the sport. I really think it was a good time for him to go, he proved he is still on top of his game (with some lapses-age has its privileges) but without having 100% drive as he said himself there is no point really. I believe he should try his hand at managing a team and with ruthless Teutonic efficiency and mountains of experience he should be really successful!

Still don't like him. Sure he's won 7 WDC but I still don't like him. That was the most boring time of F1 imo. There are so many young and good drivers coming through the system that it was selfish of him to come back in the first place. He'd won all he had and he still wanted more. There's several other race series he could have entered instead.

You mean Adelaide 1994, when Hill decided to try and drive a 2m wide car through a 1.9m wide and narrowing gap because he needed to beat Schumi in order to win the World championship?

Spa 1998, where DC slowed on the racing line in order to "allow Schumi to lap me". DC has since admitted that this was his error (a point which I felt to be the case at the time, because it was an unpredictable thing to do).

you will not let it lie Schumacher is a cheat he crashed his car then turned in on Damon Hill ,and did the same for Jacques Villeneuve but got Michael disqualified out of that championship year .The reason why Williams did not protest that year was they were still dealing with the death of Senna http://en.wikipedia....rix#cite_note-2 and is on BBC most unsporting momment and he parked his car at Rascasse in Monaco in 2006 and here Michael exonerates DC http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/motor-racing-coulthard-cleared-by-schumacher-1197422.html

you will not let it lie Schumacher is a cheat he crashed his car then turned in on Damon Hill ,and did the same for Jacques Villeneuve but got Michael disqualified out of that championship year .The reason why Williams did not protest that year was they were still dealing with the death of Senna http://en.wikipedia....rix#cite_note-2 and is on BBC most unsporting momment and he parked his car at Rascasse in Monaco in 2006 and here Michael exonerates DC http://www.independe...er-1197422.html

Try actually watching the 1994 Aussie race without your Williams-coloured glasses on sometime. Schumi had turned in (ok, going slowly but even so) before Hill went alongside him.

Jacquo should net even have been in that last race in 1997; his punishment for the Japan practice enfringement was to miss a race, and since he took the start in Japan...

As for Spa 1998, DC admitted that the crash was his fault for slowing on the racing line some 5 years later.

I await next year, when we'll can see how Lewis fares against Nico in equal(well ish anyway) equipment.

I like all good drivers and do not follow one team. You however Ken are obviously Michaels no1 fan. Jackie Stewart gives a good drivers measures piece on f1 page on the BBC ,but maybe he is a Williams fan too :giggle:

I tend to follow drivers throughout careers rather than teams, although I do like Mclaren. My first F1 season was Mika Hakkinen becoming WDC. I lost a bit of interest during the Schumacher years but picked it back up in 2004/5 and rarely miss a race now. I even make sure I'm off on Sundays when there's a race on. I've liked Kimi since day one as I have Jenson, Hamilton, PDR and Kobayashi purely because I like how the drive. They make F1 exciting. I also like the dabbles Nando and Webber have had over the years too. There's very few drivers I hate, more dislike that we've seen over the years.

One thing I have learned especially with being on Twitter and trying to start a F1 discussion site is how many fans there really are and are some really knowledgeable people out there too. Some are bonkers though and I'd advise to avoid those. Some say that unless you know every fact and regulation about F1 then you're not an F1 fan. Frankly this is bollards. Even though I've been watching it on and off for 15 years or so I still say I'm learning. I think if you go into anything too far it can become tedious and you'll start to become jaded with it.

He crashe becuse he was trying to get more out fo the car than the car could give him. Some people my constitute it as being a crap driver others consider it having steel cahunas by driving the car harder that the car can take it :D

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I don't think it was MS who made F1 boring, I think F1 was boring in those years. Those who were excellent drivers and had excellent teams could just exploit that. Rules changes and standards reduce the gap, but money can still out perform skills.

Last year wasn't all that and despite this year not watching much, that I have watched has proved to be really interesting. I enforce my thoughts by looking at almost any other formula where cars can get close and move around each other. F1 needs to get the R back into Racing and not the F of the Following years.

Jump onto youtube where you had D types wheel off and sliding around a corner, yes a deathly experience and serious loss of life, but go to far and you get what we basically looked forward to, an excuse for a 2 hour kip on the sofa every sunday. I can now stay awake through a whole race, because at times it is a race ;)

The crap driver or not, well I guess it's how high a level point of view you take. Hamilton might be a good driver, but personality wise bit of a wally imho, as such I rate other people higher as they as a whole give a better performance, on and off... what they have in manners though they may lack in that ruthless "do or do not do, there is no try" approach on circuit.

Driving skill and that competitive spirit is always going to result in incidents, is it the driving or the competitive devil/personality at fault?

All I know is they are all good drivers, have all (bar one) cut there teeth racing and winning, just get rid of the smug, too cool to talk ones and the sport would be a dam site more interesting for the avg interested viewer, I'm not a fan if we consider fanatical as it's source.

YM2P.

I'd love to see a charity race once a year here the drivers are mixed up, drop alonso and vettle in a hrt :) Might be expensive for whomever gets that one who has shares in carbon fibre... Pastor 'I love carbon fibre' Maldonado, is that pastor carbonarna? /gets coat.

^^ Funny that, my 10 yr old son kept nagging me the other day about the same idea, why drivers cannot change the cars over once in a while or do grid penalty system as in BTCC?

The closest we have is Race of Champions and even that last time was screwed. Vettel vs a rally driver (forget his name) and the final car was a rally car. Everyone knew Vettel would get his arse kicked then all of sudden it was changed to something else. The rally driver hadn't driven one at all during the competition, had no experience of it and lost.

They could still have full race distance but broken up into thirds and like BTCC have reverse grids. I think adding more ballast to an F1 car wouldn't be worth the hassle. But would mean we'd could squeeze in GP2/3 races inbetween and make a better weekend of it.

I tend to follow drivers throughout careers rather than teams

Same here, although I've always grown up following Williams. I have a lot of respect for Sir Frank and Patrick for their ethics and 'lets go race' attitude, rather than the politics and in fighting many others occupy themselves with.

It's why I like drivers like JB, Barachello & Kovalainan. They dont bring egos into the racing.

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I always Williams until they got rid of Hill. I was 7 at the time though so I might not have understood the politics as well as I do now lol. I do agree with above about the ego thing. I`m not a massive fan of drivers who are more worried about coming across as "cool" than the racing (hamilton, your a F1 driver, you dont need to say stupid words will.i.am uses to look cool, you would be cool by default) Likewise, a bit of personality is a good thing, Button & Brundles chats on the grid are hilarious sometimes, even Kimmi using as little words as possible in an interview is amusing sometimes. :D

Aside from Ferrari, fans do tend to support drivers over teams most of the time.

Kimi will always be my favourite and just today he proved why

Pinkham: "so Kimi what happened?"

Kimi: "I span"

Pinkham: "The yellow flag mess up qualifying for a few"

Kimi: "I don't care about anyone else"

Awesome!

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Rofl I went back to bed soon as it finished, gutted I missed that. Legend!

Kimi will always be my favourite and just today he proved why

Pinkham: "so Kimi what happened?"

Kimi: "I span"

Pinkham: "The yellow flag mess up qualifying for a few"

Kimi: "I don't care about anyone else"

Awesome!

Tell it as it in doesn't flower it up lol, he is the iceman

Found it. Quick before Bernie gets rid of it

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