Don't understand why people want to tie up their hard earnt cash in a car which is a depreciating asset. I just do it on a PCP and treat it as an expense each month which the car is anyway even if you own outright as it loses value. Then you either spend your cash on something else or stick it in a high interest account.

I bought mine but realistically that means I rented the money (a loan) instead of renting the car (PCP). Not much in it.

Don't understand why people want to tie up their hard earnt cash in a car which is a depreciating asset. I just do it on a PCP and treat it as an expense each month which the car is anyway even if you own outright as it loses value. Then you either spend your cash on something else or stick it in a high interest account.

LOL - High interest account, good luck with that one.

I personally like to own my cars - which I do every 3-4 years. So OK, I'm not in the same position as everyone as I get an "interest free" loan from my mum.

So I pay her back a minimum each month, a little more if I can afford it and at some point the vehicle is mine. I can then trade-in and start once more.

Always have done it this way (although earlier bought with loans rather than parents) and probably always will.

I understand the PCP argument, but I also understand the argument for buying a car that is a year or two old for a massive saving over a new one.

I've lately seen facelift vRS Petrol's for ~£12K with not many miles (20K) on them. That's probably the route I will take - (Unless my wife says I can go get a new one on VAT free next year) - however, if I do that then I will milk it and get the exact spec I want... (and I don't want much of a spec, just DSG really!)

I understand the PCP argument, but I also understand the argument for buying a car that is a year or two old for a massive saving over a new one.

I've lately seen facelift vRS Petrol's for ~£12K with not many miles (20K) on them. That's probably the route I will take - (Unless my wife says I can go get a new one on VAT free next year) - however, if I do that then I will milk it and get the exact spec I want... (and I don't want much of a spec, just DSG really!)

You can get PCP on second hand cars, not sure of thr cut off point in terms of age though.

Yeah, been thinking about that. I looked up PCP before and I ended up with £300 a month leaving my account for something I'd never own.

At the moment, I own my car. Sure, it's a 6 year old Diesel Octavia. It has 46K on the clock (which is nothing for a diesel) and I have not spent a penny on maintenance, only consumables (Winter tyres that I never needed last winter really).

My car is covered by warranty until August, so after that I suppose I could end up forking out a lot, but looking at the TCO element, my car is pretty cheap compared to a PCP.

If I saved up the cash/ got a loan and bought a £12K vRS - I'd get another 1 year of warranty, and then I'd be saving that £300 a month. In the meantime if anything did happen to my current motor, I'd have been saving and I would have had the money to pay for any repairs I'd need.

The other problemis that my wife isn't keen on PCP, so I'd never get one on that anyway.

Does anyone know what engine the new vrs will have??? I mean will it still be 197 bhp??

Yeah, been thinking about that. I looked up PCP before and I ended up with £300 a month leaving my account for something I'd never own.

At the moment, I own my car. Sure, it's a 6 year old Diesel Octavia. It has 46K on the clock (which is nothing for a diesel) and I have not spent a penny on maintenance, only consumables (Winter tyres that I never needed last winter really).

My car is covered by warranty until August, so after that I suppose I could end up forking out a lot, but looking at the TCO element, my car is pretty cheap compared to a PCP.

If I saved up the cash/ got a loan and bought a £12K vRS - I'd get another 1 year of warranty, and then I'd be saving that £300 a month. In the meantime if anything did happen to my current motor, I'd have been saving and I would have had the money to pay for any repairs I'd need.

The other problemis that my wife isn't keen on PCP, so I'd never get one on that anyway.

PCP makes less sense on a used car. For a new car consider what you pay for it new and then what it will be worth in three years so see what it actually costs you and then work out what you would pay in to the PCP over 36 months minus the equity you would of built up in the car and see which is most cost effective.

Is this a pcp tread or Octavia lll ????

Yeah, my bad - I am sorry!

Get us a release date already

Bit of a no brainer really, simply pick up a loaded "run-out" special edition of the Octy II, straight purchase btw, then in 2,3 or 4 years take ones pick of the Octy III that will be swilling about.

Which could tie in nicely with the expiry of our 5 year warrenty/ free 5 year servicing deal.

Simples.

Is this a pcp tread or Octavia lll ????

It's whatever people contributing useful information want it to be I guess.

New Seat Toledo from the side, similarity???

Bear in mind current model has been VAG production mechanicals for the past 8 years and hence it is fairly well sorted; new mode most likely not as "fettled".

New Seat Toledo from the side, similarity???

That looks like Skoda's 'Mission L' model, meant to be in between Fabia and Octavia size family car.

That's the sister to the Rapid, I believe.

Also, I decided that because we already have one "sensible" car in the family, then that gives me the right to go and buy something silly.

One of my neighbours has just bought a 59 plate Scirocco, and I am very envious. I fancied one for absolutely AGES and then when my wife recently traded in her car for a Ford Focus with a diesel engine (There's the sensible car) I couldn't resist but go sit in a Scirocco at the same time. When I sat in it and realised that the windows have to drop before you can open the doors - this would be a major problem in the winter and it did kinda put me off. Oh, that and the boot was a bit smaller than what I have been used to. However, putting these aside, and thinking about the fact that we do have a Focus (and we don't even have any kids..) then I WILL make a Scirocco mine (DSG, 2.0 TSI please) for the next 2-3 years (when I eventually can afford one) and then get the new Octavia vRS in like 2016 or something. After that I'll be knocking onto my mid 30's and probably will be time for me to don my pipe and slippers. Or something.

But yeah, will be looking out for Octy 3 info!

So is the new Octavia going to still be Golf based if it is being larger than the Mk2?

Essentially yes - MQB is a more flexible platform.

Figured I'd post up the Greencarcongress article on the new MQB platform here.

http://www.greencarc...b-20120201.html

Weight loss, new engines and I'm guessing redesigned gearboxes to handle the higher torque of these new engines.

I'm still hoping to see some estate/wagon/combi spy photos and hopefully a Scout too.

Edited 19 June, 201214 yr by Kiwibacon

That was an interesting read, thanks or posting.

Figured I'd post up the Greencarcongress article on the new MBQ platform here.

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2012/02/mqb-20120201.html

Weight loss, new engines and I'm guessing redesigned gearboxes to handle the higher torque of these new engines.

I'm still hoping to see some estate/wagon/combi spy photos and hopefully a Scout too.

Interesting article. Thanks for the link. Am I right in understanding that the only way to get a higher performing engine will be by going the oil burner route?

Edited 19 June, 201214 yr by Innz

Someone on a Czech forum said:

"I saw the prototype and I must say that you will be surprised. That's all I can say."

Hoping for something a bit Audi A5 5-doorish

Any more news? Paris motor-show still seems a long way away.

Another excellent MQB platform article here: http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/publish/vortex_news/article_3038.shtml

This one is focused on the golf 7, but should still apply nicely.

Skoda Octavia is planning the following: • sedan, mid-2013 • Combined, the middle of 2014 • Scout, mid 2015th Even more wheelbase, as it were, for example, for the next Superb necessary, provide the planned for China and North America XXL versions. As an important link between the brands are new modular diesel and petrol engines (MDS / MBB), which are more powerful, more economical and cleaner. Also the efficiency of interchangeable modules BlueMotion Technologies, the e-motion electric drive and the new plug-in hybrid. Another benefit of modularity is the flexible production, because in future the different models and variants are produced in the same factory. VW sold us the building block principle, of course, product-specific advantages: more space, less weight, greater versatility, improved safety, better driving dynamics, greater economy.

Just a few guess images, but it looks promising

http://www.autobild.de/bilder/bilder-skoda-octavia-gegen-vw-golf-1795455.html#bild0|ref=http://www.autobild.de/artikel/vw-golf-vii-skoda-octavia-iii-vorschau-1782818.html