Blimey, after looking at the thread on the Focus v Octy estate debate, just had a look on the UK website to see what was available nowadays compared to when I got my L&K back in 2008...

...and the choice of engines you have is appaling if you want anything other than a VRs!!

I was aware they've just dropped the cracking 1.8 lump which I have, but there's absolutely nothing petrol based that has any poke or would appeal to me in the slightest! I know the L&K has been dropped, but if you plump for a VRs you're paying a hell of a lot to get any toys and gadgets, seemingly far more than the options when I looked into it back then. It's £3,500 more now (otr) than 2008, but apart from the engine, by the time you've finished speccing it up to anything like mine, and if you're including the leather upholstery, you're looking at over 26 GRAND!!

I know they're OTR prices, but I paid just under £18k for my L&K, and the only thing it DIDN'T have by comparison was the 2.0 block!

Thanks goodness I don't need a new motor! Crazy, crazy, crazy. :no:

Last i checked (a couple kf months ago) you could get a CR VRS with xenons for £18500. For that I assume you could probably get a VRS TSi with xenons, maxidot and rear parking......

Anything else is either cheap to add or faff anyway, surely? Ok maybe leather but at a grand or so for the upgrade you can still get a comparable or better car (depending on your outlook) for roughly what you paid nearly four years ago?

Feel free to disagree by the way - TBH I don't know what other options the L&K had, but of it was stuff like auto lights, rain sensing wipers, etc then TBH I'd rather have the engine (if it didn't cost so damn much to run, hence why I have put a deposit on a carcinogenic diesel.......)

Edit - disagree, not disgrace! Lol

Edited 11 June, 201214 yr by mr_awol

Bear in mind that Skoda are knocking 20% off list, and VAT has gone up adding £1000 to a £20000 car (can't remember when the VAT jumped so this may not be relevant).

I just bought an Octavia VRS for £26,500 list for about £22,000.

I knew when I bought it that I could easily get the 1.8 to be as good if not better than a standard VRs via Ben @ Shark performance and about a monkey of my hard earned, so the engine was never a worry of mine,... I wanted the toys.

Besides, I found the VRs seats bloody uncomfortable and now I have electric heated cow pampering my @rse!

Bear in mind that Skoda are knocking 20% off list, and VAT has gone up adding £1000 to a £20000 car (can't remember when the VAT jumped so this may not be relevant).

I just bought an Octavia VRS for £26,500 list for about £22,000.

WOW for 22k you could have had a whole lot better car,

3 months ago I got a VRS hatch tsi with auto-lights, xenons, black interior, parking sensors & metallic for £17.6k...the discounts are becoming like vauxhall!

Much as I like my Octy there is no way I'd pay £20k+ for a Skoda or any other 'ordinary' brand. At that money you need a badge to try to offset some of the depreciation.

I paid just shy of £20k for my car back in March 2011. Sure I could have purchased a "badge" but why would I?

If I was looking to buy a "penis extender" then I wouldn't have been looking at Skoda in the first place. Instead I got a car for £20k with all the features I wanted (with the exception of folding mirrors) that I'll be happy to drive around in for 4-5 years.

By which time depresiation will be no worse and quite probably better than some of these "badges".

I have no idea, but since Skoda's got a pretty good name nowadays, would it be reasonable to assume that depreciation levels would be better than most?

I bought a brand new TDI vRS in 2010 and it was £17K :|

Golf GTI starts at about £26,000...

vRS still makes good financial sense...

I paid just shy of £20k for my car back in March 2011. Sure I could have purchased a "badge" but why would I?

If I was looking to buy a "penis extender" then I wouldn't have been looking at Skoda in the first place. Instead I got a car for £20k with all the features I wanted (with the exception of folding mirrors) that I'll be happy to drive around in for 4-5 years.

By which time depresiation will be no worse and quite probably better than some of these "badges".

I beg to differe my friend, they drop like a lead baloon, there is a reason people buy "penis extenders"

I have no idea, but since Skoda's got a pretty good name nowadays, would it be reasonable to assume that depreciation levels would be better than most?

Most??.. like a Lada? then yes, but its no better than any others ford vauxhall etc.

I beg to differe my friend, they drop like a lead baloon, there is a reason people buy "penis extenders"

Most??.. like a Lada? then yes, but its no better than any others ford vauxhall etc.

You are telling me the likes of BMW and Audi hold their value a whole lot better?

There are some absolute "bargains" on both of these badges - not that I would particularly like to own either.

There seems to be this whole "You bought a Skoda when you really wanted a......"

No, I bought a Skoda because that is what I wanted. If I wanted something else I would have bought something else.

You are telling me the likes of BMW and Audi hold their value a whole lot better?

Than a Skoda? Then yes they do I'm afraid.

This varies model by model but I've noticed petrol vRS's have plummeted recently.

Diesels might do ok but I can testify that if you go to trade in a petrol VRS you'll going to be disappointed.

Trade don't want big petrols unless it has a badge.

Diesels might do ok but I can testify that if you go to trade in a petrol VRS you'll going to be disappointed.

Trade don't want big petrols unless it has a badge.

I'm glad someone knows what they are on about

Big petrol engines have been on the wain for a little while now.

THis is probably shown even just within the Octy range as the Haynes manuals are produced to account for a combination of requests AND sales of specific engine models, and the only MkII publication for the Octy is for the diesel models. :wonder:

http://www.haynes.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?storeId=10001&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&pageSize=300&beginIndex=0&sType=SimpleSearch&resultType=2&stringValue=&searchTerm=octavia

Boss is flogging his LPG powered Volvo S60R.. 300bhp and 65p a litre (so 50mpg in reality against petrol in equivalent)

Tempted? I am.

My 12 month old petrol VRS goes in as a trade in soon, about 2-3 weeks, and in 12 months I have lost just over £2K so I dont think that depreciation is bad, and that isnt an 'artificial' inflated trade in figure against the price of the replacement car etc, its just the price that I have been quoted.

Personally, I bought my VRS as I wanted one, being replaced with another VRS, seems strange to people that I 'aspired' to a VRS but I wanted a brand new car, wanted a reasonbly well performing family sized car, this car fitted the bill, my only gripe with the VRS is that whilst it has a reasonable spec, for a car that is near the top of the range it seems daft to me that to get certain features you have to spec and pay extra for them, I know its how they keep the price low, but surely they could remove certiain things which are of no real use and add in things that people see and make a difference as to whther you buy the car nor not?

Anyway, I feel that depreciation hasnt hit myself too much, I got a lot of car for a reasonble amount of money, so overall, happy man!

£2k for a years motoring in a new car that cost over £15k thats not bad at all.

I notice that Scouts have only just started to get reasonable second hand.

I think the lead times, offers and more people using the brokers, is giving the nearly news a bit of safety but this drops off as you head to 3 yrs and the availability increases.

Must get round to doing a plot of askings on some samples.

I don't think the depreciation is too bad for Skodas. I bought my 56 vRS for just under £6k a couple of weeks ago which seems alot for a 6 year old car, compare that to the Nissan Primera (06) I traded it in against.....valued at £1500 trade in and would probably retail for 2-2500. Considering the primera has a mich higher spec than the skoda I think the vrs holds its value very well. Looking at the vrs diesel you probs won't find one under £7500, even with that it will have 120k on the clock.

Edited 13 June, 201214 yr by Nismo75

£2k for a years motoring in a new car that cost over £15k thats not bad at all. I notice that Scouts have only just started to get reasonable second hand. I think the lead times, offers and more people using the brokers, is giving the nearly news a bit of safety but this drops off as you head to 3 yrs and the availability increases. Must get round to doing a plot of askings on some samples.

On the basis of this http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201218467556519/sort/default/usedcars/transmission/manual/maximum-age/up_to_4_years_old/fuel-type/diesel/model/octavia/make/skoda/page/2/keywords/scout/postcode/hd93hn/radius/1501?logcode=p which is pretty close to my Scout (Age and miles minus a few of the options I have, columbus, mdi, xenons etc.) mine has lost £550.00 in two and a half years and 40k miles, not bad depreciation really

Edited 13 June, 201214 yr by Anddenton

I paid £18,000 for my vRS with leather interior, electric sunroof, rain sensors, xenons, auto lights front and rear parking sensors, and heated front seats. Well chuffed!

Edited 14 June, 201214 yr by Tigger25