http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-18415532

As above

Dr Kurt Straif, also from IARC, said: "For most of the carcinogens when there is high exposure the risk is higher, when there is lower exposure the risk is lower."

Really

Hardly a surprise, so does everything else.

That report is confusing though

According to their PDF list, it's the same classification as - Hairdresser or barber (occupational exposure as a) (group 2A), yet according to the BBC article, it's in the same classification as solar radiation and alcohol (group 1)

In the PDF list, there are a couple of ones I found amusing though.....

In group 1 classification we have my favourite - salted fish, Chinese-style, and in group 3 - Blue VRS

It's a good job mine is black

Meh, I did some toxicology at uni.

Some things with that can cause cancer...

Apples

Mustard

Oxygen

It's all about exposure and other factors like your genes and your environment. It can take lots and lots of accumulated factors to give one person cancer, another will get it while avoiding evereything 'bad'.

It's only really worth worrying about the biggies like smoking.

So can your phone, the sun, stress, genetics, stress, basically everything gives you cancer. So unless you are able to create your own micro climate, there is no point worrying about it as the stress of that alone can exaserbate cancer.

How long before this is used as an excuse to increase fuel duty on naughty diesel?

That's it, I'm not leaving my house again.

May have an issue, how will I get home from work today?!

Look on the bright side, if you develop cancer and die prematurely there's no stress about your tiny pension, no arguments about which relative has to put up with you at Christmas, and no worry that you'll be beaten black and blue in a care home,

Cancer research list potential contributory factors but do not say any single thing will cause a problem. As with most things some people are more susceptible than others to certain risks and in some cases they have no idea what the cause is.

http://cancerhelp.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/causes-symptoms/causes/what-causes-cancer

http://info.cancerresearchuk.org/cancerandresearch/all-about-cancer/what-is-cancer/what-causes-cancer/what-causes-cancer2

Edited 13 June, 201214 yr by hertsnminds

http://www.bbc.co.uk...health-18415532

As above

Oxygen, the sun and toast cause cancer...

MTBE in unleaded petrol really really causes cancer and leaches nicely into drinking water, if it gets out.

Everything causes cancer FFS!

Edited 13 June, 201214 yr by cheezemonkhai

So can your phone, the sun, stress, genetics, stress, basically everything gives you cancer. So unless you are able to create your own micro climate, there is no point worrying about it as the stress of that alone can exaserbate cancer.

Actually you could lock yourself away in a perfect anti-cancer vault and you might still get it because you've been born with crap genes.

Worrying also is a cancer risk apparently.

It'd be silly not to avoid the worst cancer risks, after all it's a ******* horrible way to go, but also stupid to ruin your life trying to avoid every possible risk.

I was a London Bus driver for a few years.

I've spent what feels like a lifetime sitting stationary

in oxford street in a long line of smoking buses.

And first thing in the morning the air was literally blue in the bus garage.

That's me fooked then.

Actually you could lock yourself away in a perfect anti-cancer vault and you might still get it because you've been born with crap genes.

Worrying also is a cancer risk apparently.

It'd be silly not to avoid the worst cancer risks, after all it's a ******* horrible way to go, but also stupid to ruin your life trying to avoid every possible risk.

Full marks for the most sensible answer. There is no proven way to stop getting it, so stop worrying and listening to all this garbage!!!!

Babs people have said this for a while: google PM10s. It is not the fumes but the particulates that are dodgy and that has been solved by and large by DPF. Saw this in the Guardian today though and thought old news. The soot particles are tiny and get trapped in your lungs and can be a risk but you would need huge exposure in a confined space to be harmed i would have thought.

And so do petrol fumes. Since covering a specific distance in a petrol engined vehicle will emit more fumes than covering the same distance in a diesel engined one will...

And so do petrol fumes. Since covering a specific distance in a petrol engined vehicle will emit more fumes than covering the same distance in a diesel engined one will...

Petrol engines produce PM5 which will get in further.

Like I said, everything will kill you

FWIW petrol engines start with lower NOx which increases over age.

Derv engines start with slightly higher NOx which falls over age.

Six of one etc etc

If you are worried about traffic fumes, then make sure you buy the pollen filter with 'odor and harmful substances filtration'

Option 2V5 = Fresh air intake system with activated charcoal canister

If you're worried about traffic fumes, then try new improved cranial amputation.

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Edited 15 June, 201213 yr by cheezemonkhai

So what's new - I remember this from undertaking air quality assessments for new roads back in the 90's... And as for exhaust particulates, the latest concern amongst the air quality experts (I attended a conference on this exact subject only last week) is not PM10's but PM2.5's - and DPF's don;t catch those!

Regardless of the above it's all about exposure risk but, as usual, it;ll be used by the scaremongerers amongst society to hammer the private motorist - even though Public Transport is a also a mojor contributor as well as industry etc...

Best advice - don;t worry about it - your more likely to get run over by a bus!

When I was a student I used to work in a factory that made bottled water.

They used diesel forklifts indoors and the windows were nailed shut. I wonder if I can sue in 20yr time....

So what's new - I remember this from undertaking air quality assessments for new roads back in the 90's... And as for exhaust particulates, the latest concern amongst the air quality experts (I attended a conference on this exact subject only last week) is not PM10's but PM2.5's - and DPF's don;t catch those!

Regardless of the above it's all about exposure risk but, as usual, it;ll be used by the scaremongerers amongst society to hammer the private motorist - even though Public Transport is a also a mojor contributor as well as industry etc...

Best advice - don;t worry about it - your more likely to get run over by a bus!

Or more worringly, with the increase in older buses, catch something in the bus induced traffic jams where we motorists switch off our engines as we're paying the fuel bill .

Now ,perhaps,just perhaps, some of the air consultants ,might like to sample the air around Guy Fawkes night ( or better still in the mornings) . Thick heavy clouds of cordite hang in the air .

TBH the odds are against me even seeing it through to the end of the day according to some studies so i think ill take my chances.