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Changing oil filter on VRS

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I'm about to change the oil & filter on my 06 VRS and what seemed a straight forward job is now looking possibly complicated...

The filter cap needs a 32mm socket, impact type ideally so as not to round the edges, but what's the thing with detaching the paper filter once everything's out, or am I overcomplicating it?

I've only just done mine but have a terrible memory...I think you take the whole unit out, the cap comes off and the paper element is clipped to it. You then unclip the old paper element (including the plastic "stalk") and bag it up for disposal, then change the large O ring around the cap and screw the whole lot back in.

That's right, torquing it to 20nm

Remove the filter before draining the oil so the housing can drain out.

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Gotcha. The filter sort of push fits onto the underneath of the cap doesn't it?

And to be sure it is a 32mm low profile socket I need?

Thanks

Could be either 32 or 36, from what I've read.

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Does anyone know what this is?

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That's an oil filter removal wrench, for some other VAG engines where the filter housing doesn't also have a "standard" head. My Leon PD150 needed one of those tools (78mm, 14 spline) because the top of the housing was flat and the only way to undo it was to use the whole thing as a nut. The PD130 in my Fabia has both flat sides for use with one of those, AND a standard 32mm nut so you can do it with a standard socket set.

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^ brilliant, top answer, thanks

Well, I've had a Pela delivered today and have ordered a 32mm oil cap socket

It's gets to a point doesn't it when you get excited about oil changing with your new suction machine and tools!

Lol I know the feeling I have a sleepless night with all the exitment before I pull my pela out and unleash that 32mm socket on the oil filter!

Lol, I'm still like a kid in a sweetie shop when the tool van arrives even after 20 years. Mind you with £25k worth of tools it not cheap being a tech..lol

^ brilliant, top answer, thanks

Well, I've had a Pela delivered today and have ordered a 32mm oil cap socket

It's gets to a point doesn't it when you get excited about oil changing with your new suction machine and tools!

let us know how you get one with the PELA, gona get me one i think!

Easyyyy work

I got my Pela 6000 on Tuesday for £38 delivered from http://www.mailspeedmarine.com/tools-repair-kits-fixings/pela/oil-extractor-pump.bhtml

worked out slightly cheaper than eBay ftw

but I damaged the nozzle plastic coating

similar to this thread

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=87652

so I suggest not inserting the nozzle too deep, plus I don't think it needs be inserted too deep anyway

other than that, the pela is a good piece of kit imo

I would like the nozzle replaced or fixed tho, but no idea where or how

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Thanks for the heads up mobz, I'll check the end of the plastic tube to make sure it's got a 'clean' edge with no fraying etc and be careful with insertion/removal. I paid £41 delivered off Amazon. Arrived next day after ordering at 3PM which I thought good

If the filter cap tool arrives this morning, I'll go for the change Sunday AM and report back :)

Recommendation is for 60% engine/oil temperature before extracting oil with the Pela. I would have thought the temp gauge would be on about 1/4 for this. Other words half way into its normal working temp of half way on the gauge. Would this be about right?

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Difficult to judge, as that's coolant temp not oil temp. Think when I did mine the other week, I went for a 10 minute drive beforehand, by which time the coolant was well up to temp (i.e. 90) then spent a couple of minutes getting the bits together and cracked on.

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Brilliant job. Sooo much easier than crawling around underneath, removing the undertray etc.

Whole job done in no time. Went for a little drive first until temp gauge was coming up, which seemed to warm oil enough.

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Just kept an eye on the filling, few more pumps here and there, the vacum can be felt as you pump so you quickly get a feel for when it's enough

The lines on the Pela must be for each litre, so i got almost the full 5

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What a great gadget

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Seeing as there is 4.3 litre from empty to max then looks about right.

Do these get right down into the sump? Might get myself one, looks a whole lot easier :)

Do these get right down into the sump? Might get myself one, looks a whole lot easier :)

I'm pretty sure they do bud, sure felt like it when I was using mine

exactly the same set up for oil changes as me.

No faffing about with sump plugs, engine undertrays or ramps and jacks.

Pump up the Pela and go for a cuppa...

the first time I tried it, I'd estimate the oil was at 60-70% full operating temperature.

2nd time the oil was proper hot after a 25 mile run. Oil came out a lot quicker this time.

I'm pretty sure they do bud, sure felt like it when I was using mine

Thanks mate :)

I cant see how it can matter that much on oil temp before hanging? Id nearly prefer doing it cold so that I get as much of the old stuff out as possible as it will all be run down into the sump?

when I did mine, I let the oil settle by giving it 10 mins or so after my journey, not any longer as apparently the oils cools faster in diesels??

if the oil is not hot, it wont flow easily when pumping, as a result could damage the pela equipment? back of the pela box it also states to ensure the oil it hot iirc.

I followed this, great little vid (tut No. 4) :)

http://pics2.tdiclub...itdi/index.html

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It's also a matter of getting the 'muck' suspended in the oil and not allowed to settle back down when cool

It's ok on the vRS. But not all engines are suitable for oil extraction. The 3.6 and 1.0 engines are good examples of this.

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