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Hi all

Just arrived back from a European drive to the Nurburgring, totaling in roughly 2000 miles, 90% 70mph+ motorway driving. On the way back we detoured to Brugge, Belgium and just on the out skirts a low oil warning comes up? True enough pull over, check oil and its on the min mark.

Doesn't that seem abit excessive?

I prefer to drink coffee or water on long journeys. Keeps me awake but means toilet stops though.

Did you actually drive on the ring?

Depends when you last checked it really.

Careful how you respond to that if your car is still in warranty

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Depends when you last checked it really.

.....and how much oil there was when you checked it too :)

As others have said when was it last checked ?? If the c ar was used hard & you ragged it around the track it might use a bit more as well

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No the car did not go on track. It was checked about two weeks ago as it has always had a problem with a high oil reading (iv posted about it before) it has used nothing since it was last serviced 10,000 miles ago. I do understand it would use some but not a litre or even more.

No the car did not go on track. It was checked about two weeks ago as it has always had a problem with a high oil reading (iv posted about it before) it has used nothing since it was last serviced 10,000 miles ago. I do understand it would use some but not a litre or even more.

I suggest just monitor it & see how it goes, just check say every 500 miles, the light works so as long as you have oil with you you arent going to get caught out & no harm will come of it

Edited by Stuart_J

Hi all

Just arrived back from a European drive to the Nurburgring, totaling in roughly 2000 miles, 90% 70mph+ motorway driving. On the way back we detoured to Brugge, Belgium and just on the out skirts a low oil warning comes up? True enough pull over, check oil and its on the min mark.

Doesn't that seem abit excessive?

Did you have a good trip weather was pretty decent for last week. Where all did you go to cover 2000 miles? Did you get around the ring in any other car while there at least?

ref the oil manual on page 171 says the following which might work out about right for distance covered. (FL manual but can't see it being any different it is stated range wide not to a specific engine)

Regular servicing

A poorly tuned engine uses an unnecessarily high amount of fuel.

Having your vehicle serviced regularly at a specialist garge enables you to satisfy

one of the requirements for economical motoring even before you set off on your

journey. Keeping your vehicle properly serviced not only has a positive effect on the

safety of your vehicle and maintaining its value, but also saves on fuel.

A poorly tuned engine can result in a fuel consumption which is 10 % higher than

normal.

The foreseen maintenance work should be undertaken exactly according to the

Service schedule by a specialist garage.

Also check the oil level after refueling. Oil consumption is dependent to a considerable

extent on the load and speed of the engine. Oil consumption could be as high

as 0.5 litres/1 000 km depending on your style of driving.

It is quite normal that a new engine has a higher oil consumption at first, and

reaches its lowest level only after a certain running in time. It is therefore not

possible to correctly assess the oil consumption of a new vehicle until after you

have driven about 5 000 km.

I know it says poorly tuned but being remapped (stage 2?), driving style, type/grade/age of oil and how engine was run in etc can have some effect on how much it burns in little ways. On the face of it the manual says its permissible for it to burn oil at that rate though. I wouldn't be too worried at least you know there isn't a massive amount of diesel replacing it on the other issue. I used to have a 156 and book for that said it was perfectly normal for it to burn 1 litre per 1000 miles although it didn't burn a drop.

On another thought someone might know the answer to this, if the injector recall was now letting diesel into the oil would that degrade the oil or thin it out to make it burn off on a car that may not have never done it before in top condition??

Didn't you have an issue with lots of derv in your oil at one point?

If you did, that could have caused bore/piston ring wear which is now letting the oil past, faster than expected.

Didn't you have an issue with lots of derv in your oil at one point?

If you did, that could have caused bore/piston ring wear which is now letting the oil past, faster than expected.

That is at the back of my mind but I would imagine Skoda just saying its burning an acceptable amount as per manual like the back tracking tight gits they are!

TFSI is known to use oil (nut not on every engine). I havent heard of a PD170 using much oil but if the handbook says its with normal useage than a dealer of indy garage might say the same thing and not investigate further.

Now you are back I dont think you have any choice but to monitor oil useage and see if it helps identify the problem. If there is a problem

TFSI is known to use oil (nut not on every engine). I havent heard of a PD170 using much oil but if the handbook says its with normal useage than a dealer of indy garage might say the same thing and not investigate further.

Now you are back I dont think you have any choice but to monitor oil useage and see if it helps identify the problem. If there is a problem

No wonder a car can do long distance between services. When it uses that much you've got a full oil change between every service !

Didn't you have an issue with lots of derv in your oil at one point?

If you did, that could have caused bore/piston ring wear which is now letting the oil past, faster than expected.

Worst case scenario I think.

Was the oil changed after the injectors were sorted ?

It may have just been evaporating off all the diesel in the oil over a nice long hot run rather than the little short trips where it hardly gets warm ?

Worst case scenario I think.

Was the oil changed after the injectors were sorted ?

It may have just been evaporating off all the diesel in the oil over a nice long hot run rather than the little short trips where it hardly gets warm ?

True, but she's had some oil changes done etc (There is a long thread).

I did pretty much the same run and even when cruising the autobahns at full chat, the oil use between there and back was near enough zero.

My oil level warning light came on once unexpectedy after a few hundred miles of gentle driving.Needed 1/2 l to top up.

Now ,I always carry a 1l bottle in case it should happen again. Only minor top ups needed after long runs- two years on.

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Iv had a few problems concerning the oil and level. I accused it of been high and continually rising with a strong smell if diesel, the garage investigated this to no avail so im wondering if it was getting mixed with diesel maybe it did burn at an abnormal rate as it is much more flammable.

Its going in for service tomorrow and for one ill make sure it at the right level to begin with and that report what it does after that. keeping in mind it has not burnt a drop in the past 10,000 miles of urban/moor road driving. Its in constant use everyday and the level has always stayed max or above. I find it strange how in 2000 miles it has drunk a litre.

On a different note, it is awesome touring car in my opinion, the vRS engine offers enough poke (ahem and abit more) and over all it returned a healthy 48-50mpg :) and that was fully loaded up with boyfriend and me and a boot full of luggage and bedding. Personally i cant wait to take it back there

Get an oil sample from your car (ask for about 200ml of used oil).

If you can suck it out with a pela pump or similar even better.

Once you've got it (keep it in a glass jam jar or similar), then get in touch with an analysis lab.

That will tell you if you're getting a lot of derv in there or not and if there are a lot of metal particles.

All of this will give you a strong insight into what's actually going on.

What brand name of oil are you using?

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What brand name of oil are you using?

Its main dealer serviced so whatever they use

On my other car, wifes car, they recomend ELF ot SHELL (depends whtch one was cheaper at the time)

Notice nothing until my kid was born, from work to hospital, breaking all kinds of speed limits for a few days ( the kid stayed 8 days and had to do 150km twice a day)

Soo started to notice the oil indication on dash droping. Meaning that with SHELL did 10k and with ELF 7.5k between changes

Once got Castrol GTX3, 4000k later the car was asking for oil. I was like WTF. Engine problems???

Took out the rest of the oil, put SHELL back in and voilá, 10k. Never again. For me SHELL or BP for wifes car (167k)

So do you only notice more oil consumption when driving for a long period of time???

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Do yopu use branded or supermarket fuel ?

The following based on joined together snipets of info

A car with a DPF is designed to inject a little extra diesel after the main burn to go through to the exhaust to help the fire in the dpf to work. Its actuated by a modified cam on the pump so even if you are dpf less it will still poke in the extra fuel.

Thats why you cant use bio diesel in the car, it does not evaporate as per normal diesel & wont have been burnt but washes down the bore & over time can contaminate the engine oil. Currently I believe diesel sold can be up to 5% Bio & accepted as OK but with Supermarkets sole aim to keep cost down & profit up the product has to be questioned

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On my other car, wifes car, they recomend ELF ot SHELL (depends whtch one was cheaper at the time)

Notice nothing until my kid was born, from work to hospital, breaking all kinds of speed limits for a few days ( the kid stayed 8 days and had to do 150km twice a day)

Soo started to notice the oil indication on dash droping. Meaning that with SHELL did 10k and with ELF 7.5k between changes

Once got Castrol GTX3, 4000k later the car was asking for oil. I was like WTF. Engine problems???

Took out the rest of the oil, put SHELL back in and voilá, 10k. Never again. For me SHELL or BP for wifes car (167k)

So do you only notice more oil consumption when driving for a long period of time???

This is the first proper long drive its had, furthest its ever been with me is Guisborough to Mansfield which is nothing to shout about and apparently it had only ever done small drives with the first owner so this is will be longest drive its ever done and its done 70,000 miles now

Do yopu use branded or supermarket fuel ?

The following based on joined together snipets of info

A car with a DPF is designed to inject a little extra diesel after the main burn to go through to the exhaust to help the fire in the dpf to work. Its actuated by a modified cam on the pump so even if you are dpf less it will still poke in the extra fuel.

Thats why you cant use bio diesel in the car, it does not evaporate as per normal diesel & wont have been burnt but washes down the bore & over time can contaminate the engine oil. Currently I believe diesel sold can be up to 5% Bio & accepted as OK but with Supermarkets sole aim to keep cost down & profit up the product has to be questioned

Shell fuel only, supermarket fuels didt agree with my car for some reason and i dont have a DPF..

Next change ask what king of oil they put in.

If changed oil and it all back to normal (no 2000k jorneys) it´s the type and brand name of oil used.

Don´t forget oil spec., I use 5w-40 all year round on wifes car, because of the weather.

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Shell fuel only, supermarket fuels didt agree with my car for some reason and i dont have a DPF..

Well thats that lot put to bed

Guess just be aware of it & see how it develops if at all, might just have been a glitch

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