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When I checked the pressure on my winters today they were all over the place, each one different after being stored for 8 months.

What pressure do the people of Briskoda recommend for their 215 60 16 winter boots?

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I've got mine @ 34 psi.

34..ok, so having them at 32psi should be ok.

Mine were all at 25 psi after their spell on the wheel tree, covered with flimsy fabric-slightly alarming that they had all lost exactly the same or had I been running them very low? Now on at 34 Psi and better handling than I remembered. Memory suggests they were inflated by the fitters and I'm embarrassed to say I cannot recall checking them :blush:

They are supposed to be 2 psi higher than summer pressures IIRC.

34 psi

I thought the accepted wisdom for winter tyres was whatever the summer tyre pressure is +.2 bar( 3 PSI).

My diesel filler flap says 2.3 bar for my Greenline, so I'm running the winters at 2.5 bar(37 PSI).

32 psi sounds a bit low to me Servicepoint.

34 seems to be the number, guess I'll be adding 2 all round tomorrow then.

I thought the accepted wisdom for winter tyres was whatever the summer tyre pressure is +.2 bar( 3 PSI).

My diesel filler flap says 2.3 bar for my Greenline, so I'm running the winters at 2.5 bar(37 PSI).

32 psi sounds a bit low to me Servicepoint.

I read the +.2 suggestion in the Yeti manual too, which came as a surprise, as the local garage wisdom in the Pennines is that winter tyres should be run on LOWER pressures. When I had my winter tyres fitted last week it was even suggested that I might lower the pressures to 1.5 Bar in an emergency if stuck/struggling through very heavy snow. So now I'm confused. However, I have every confidence that the Yeti experts within this forum will be able to enlighten us.While living in Africa we used to lower the pressures on our 4x4 tyres when driving through warm deep sand, but I'm not sure the same 'physics' logic applies to driving through cold snow.

If you were stuck and lowered the tyre pressure to get a wider footprint to get moving,

you will be needing a means of getting your tyres back up to the correct pressure,

If stuck then it might help,

& what do you have to lose, but you need to re-inflate the tyres once you can move.

Personally in deep snow i want a narrow tyre and contact.

Maybe different if i was on top of snow and wanted floatation.

(be careful of your sidewalls.)

Not an idea to run at normal winter speeds tyres with low pressures any more than you should anytime.

There is actually stuff someplace showing over hot cold weather tyres.

Tyres over hot cause a layer of melted water & that below a tyre is a slippy thing.

(as the theory & in extremes, the practice shows)

Best not get any tyres tyres too hot anytime, by running any distance at too low pressures.

And set tyres pressures as you need to in cold ambient temperatures.

http://www.michelin....ld-weather-tips

george

Thanks for the link and advice SK4gw.

So I'm wondering if Skoda's over inflation advice is based upon the assumption that for most owners their tyres are typically inflated in warmer conditions (maybe after a run to the local garage) and/or not checked so regularly. I've got into the habit of checking mine every two weeks, after the car has stood over night, as I'm usually checking the oil levels/screen wash too. A simple tyre pump and a decent, separate, tyre gauge is always kept in the car. A lesson I learnt many years ago when fetching out my spare after a puncture only to find it...erm...a little light on air!

2.4 bar (34.8 psi) for up to 3 passengers/luggage, is the correct setting for a TDI 4x4 running 215/60 winters and set first thing in the morning. Believe the higher pressure is to compensate for the softer compound.

TP

35 psi cold is what I use with my 215/60 winters

just driven about 800 miles most of which was in heavy rain - the 16" steel winters performed much better compared to the 17" Spitzbergs - I did notice a real difference, both comfort and roadholding, (on the autoroute)

35 psi cold is what I use with my 215/60 winters

just driven about 800 miles most of which was in heavy rain - the 16" steel winters performed much better compared to the 17" Spitzbergs - I did notice a real difference, both comfort and roadholding, (on the autoroute)

Agree and accept your comments ........

.... but surely the 215/60 16s will be less precise and somewhat roly-poly in the handling department? (unless that is not an issue of concern) ;)

2.4 bar (34.8 psi) for up to 3 passengers/luggage, is the correct setting for a TDI 4x4 running 215/60 winters and set first thing in the morning. Believe the higher pressure is to compensate for the softer compound.

TP

It's the same for 225/50 17s.

2.2 bar normal; 2.4 bar winter and I like to run mine slightly higher at 2.5 bar - sharpens the handling and turn-in a tad, without affecting the ride.

Agree and accept your comments ........

.... but surely the 215/60 16s will be less precise and somewhat roly-poly in the handling department? (unless that is not an issue of concern) ;)

We were in the French Alps for about 5 hours of autoroute driving in torrential rain - the 16" steel wheels shods with Hankook's were far more confidence inspiring than those 17" Spits shods with Excellence that I have never liked - I have driven this road maybe 10 times this year so I have a good comparison - the 17" tyres had about 5 mm left when I changed over wheels but even when new their confort level was poor and road holding in the wet caused some concern.

but it's a 4 x 4 etc., so road holding is not something I associate the Yeti with, the heavy front end takes over and the 17" "sports" wheels are just heavy lumps with elastic bands for tyres, (a stupidity on a 4 x 4) - I did not have a choice when I bought the thing - it was the 17" Spitzs or pay list for the 16" Alloys and get little back for the Spitz, but even so I may now invest in a set of 16" Alloys for the summer with a sensible set of tyres

just my humble opinion

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We were in the French Alps for about 5 hours of autoroute driving in torrential rain - the 16" steel wheels shods with Hankook's were far more confidence inspiring than those 17" Spits shods with Excellence that I have never liked - I have driven this road maybe 10 times this year so I have a good comparison - the 17" tyres had about 5 mm left when I changed over wheels but even when new their confort level was poor and road holding in the wet caused some concern.

but it's a 4 x 4 etc., so road holding is not something I associate the Yeti with, the heavy front end takes over and the 17" "sports" wheels are just heavy lumps with elastic bands for tyres, (a stupidity on a 4 x 4) - I did not have a choice when I bought the thing - it was the 17" Spitzs or pay list for the 16" Alloys and get little back for the Spitz, but even so I may now invest in a set of 16" Alloys for the summer with a sensible set of tyres

just my humble opinion

Oh No - 16" v 17" , here we go again!

Oh No - 16" v 17" , here we go again!

yes - I'm seriously considering a change when the winters come off - 16" Alloys with some sensible tyres

Oh No - 16" v 17" , here we go again!

Ooops. :giggle:

2.4 bar (34.8 psi) for up to 3 passengers/luggage, is the correct setting for a TDI 4x4 running 215/60 winters and set first thing in the morning. Believe the higher pressure is to compensate for the softer compound.

TP

How do you guys know that you are putting in correct pressure? - I have just realised that the three gauges I have all read different, varying by 4 psi at around 30 psi. Anyone got a source for correct pressure measurement?

How do you guys know that you are putting in correct pressure? - I have just realised that the three gauges I have all read different, varying by 4 psi at around 30 psi. Anyone got a source for correct pressure measurement?

Norry,

I have a gauge on the compresser, a couple of digital things and a pencil type - they are all very near each other!

Edited by BillN_33

How do you guys know that you are putting in correct pressure? - I have just realised that the three gauges I have all read different, varying by 4 psi at around 30 psi. Anyone got a source for correct pressure measurement?

Separate hand held dial gauge - but the only way to be certain is to get a certified calibrated version and they're quite expensive.

Oh No - 16" v 17" , here we go again!

I hope not; the discussion was rather done to death. Again. But it's a free country, so they say, and anyone may change their opinion - it's a sign of a questing mind. :yes:

....I have a gauge on the compresser, a couple of digital things and a pencil type - they are all very near each other!

An experienced recovery man (never mind which camp) said that the old fashioned, blow-out pencil type is the most reliable, provided it is kept clean. I've got two, of different ages, and they tell the same story within a gnat's whisker.

An experienced recovery man (never mind which camp) said that the old fashioned, blow-out pencil type is the most reliable, provided it is kept clean. I've got two, of different ages, and they tell the same story within a gnat's whisker.

I've got one of these that I keep in my briefcase at work. I borrowed it from my Father some 40 years ago and never gave it back. :giggle:

Ought to check its still accurate as I've not used it in a while.

2.4 bar (34.8 psi) for up to 3 passengers/luggage, is the correct setting for a TDI 4x4 running 215/60 winters and set first thing in the morning. Believe the higher pressure is to compensate for the softer compound.

TP

I have mine also at the recommended 2.4bar, as per the manual.

They were all at 1.7 after storage over the summer.

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