I know, i know, yet ANOTHER thread on this touchy subject, but hey, apart from when it's foggy or snowing, why do these muppets actually put their fog's on do you think?

If we have a muppet in here that does such a thing on a regular basis, PLEASE explain the theory and thinking behind it.

Do you think it perhaps make you look...a word I thouroughly loathe and hate....'SPORTY'?

Is it just to annoy the majority of us, or p'raps it's because you want to show the world that you haven't in fact bought the base model Corsa?

P'raps you're heading for the forest to do a stage of your own ilittle maginary latest WRC round, or contesting in the public highway BTCC...who knows, 'cus i certainly don't.

An even more annoying trait I've recently noticed, is the use of fog lights instead of headlights combined, and no, they aren't those nearly equally annoying drl's either before you ask.

Please, someone come up with the reasoning before I start going 'round car parks with a hammer, punching fog lights out at random. :(

Me? I do believe I used them once back in 2009...the last time we had a pea souper.

Edited 28 December, 201213 yr by Mr Ree

I use mine as I have lamin-X on my headlights which reduce the light output. I accepted this drawback when I decided to put this on, so choose to use my fogs to replace what light I am missing.

I don't use my rear fogs unless it's foggy.

That has bugged me for years,

now its moved on to a number of Skoda Octavia & other owners that not only want and need Fog lights on,

Be that day light and clear visability and weather or normal night time when all other drivers see perfectly well apart from being dazzled by people with greater lighting requirements.

they now need and want them set as Cornering Fogs,

& Cornering Fogs that automatically come on as they reverse.

T_W_A_T lights, 'This way and that' lights.

See themself as others see them with the 'Special lights' on.

Some just need an appointment at Specsavers.

george

My father in law (82 years old)who drove a Volvo until he launched it into someone's garden drove around for years with his fog lights on until he was stopped by the police who asked him why he had them on during a fog free summers evening. He was most surprised to be told that he had fog lights on his car and had no idea how to turn them off until the helpful police man explained how.

Round here people use them as a replacement for broken headlight bulbs. Even then one fog light might be broken and only a side light will be working!

I use mine as I have lamin-X on my headlights which reduce the light output. I accepted this drawback when I decided to put this on, so choose to use my fogs to replace what light I am missing.

So you admit that you break the Law because you want your car to look "cool" with your reduced output headlights?

Polite words fail me!!

So you admit that you break the Law because you want your car to look "cool" with your reduced output headlights?

Polite words fail me!!

In a word, YES!

However in my defence this is only when driving around unlit country roads, which is fairly minimal as I live in a city (IE when I'm back home in Devon)

Personally I find people who sit in traffic in the dark with their foot on the brake peddle rather than put the handbrake on more of a hindrance than my low level fog lights, even those with legal xenon's cause more problems than front fogs... rear fog lights can dazzle, I appreciate that, but not low level front fogs.

Oh, and I don't really care what anyone else thinks :p IF the police pull me then fine I'll turn them off, but I haven't been pulled yet.

Un-polite words don't fail me but will refrain from using them

I use mine as I have lamin-X on my headlights which reduce the light output. I accepted this drawback when I decided to put this on, so choose to use my fogs to replace what light I am missing.

Is this a joke?

My father in law (82 years old)who drove a Volvo until he launched it into someone's garden drove around for years with his fog lights on until he was stopped by the police who asked him why he had them on during a fog free summers evening. He was most surprised to be told that he had fog lights on his car and had no idea how to turn them off until the helpful police man explained how.

But he must have been getting in and turning them on each time?

Round here all kinds of people seem to use them, its not limited to chavs in their Corsa/Saxo (fabia?) As above, I regularly see old people with them on, so either the salesmen is showing them to use them or someone else is.

In a word, YES!

Ok obviously not a joke. Each to their own I guess, IF your low level fog lights provide such little light and could never blind anyone, why do you need them on? If they are giving you enough light to replace the light missing from you dipped beam I`d guess they are seriously out of alignment.

Fully agree on the people holding their foot on the brake and blinding people, very annoying (Iv noticed new mini`s seem to have mega bright brake lights). The thing is, I think there is less issue causing an accident sat at a standstill then down a dark country lane with someone coming head on.

Edited 28 December, 201213 yr by matt1chelski

Is this a joke?

Not really no. In an unlit country road where there is little to no light pollution from all those street lights it helps, IMO of course!

I use them on unlit country roads only to illuminate the many many pot holes etc.

This along with full beam which I switch off if I see some approaching headlights.

Side issue though...

Some people keep mentioning Chavs In souped up Saxo, Corsa's, what the difference being in a modded/souped up MK 1 Fabia?

NONE!!

Pot and kettle spring to mind!

Check my post, I included Fabias. Your just arguing cos you dont like Graham. Go back to normal Taff170 before you came back, I liked that one.

I can't even see the bits of the road my Fabias fogs light up so how anyone gets any use from them in that situation I don't know. Unless as I said they are pointing up in the air.

Edited 28 December, 201213 yr by matt1chelski

Check my post, I included Fabias. I can't even see the bits of the road my Fabias fogs light up so how anyone gets any use from them in that situation I don't know. Unless as I said they are pointing up in the air.

Not you Mr Chelski! Read your post but wasn't quoting you.

I have just read a few other threads where the MK1 Fabia vRS drivers seem to think that they aren't chavs!!

As if they are above the other Barry Boys!!

Makes me chuckle a bit tbh.

I've not had cause to use my front or rear fogs in ~ 20 months. I tinted them with yellow Lamin-X as I prefer the yellow light given of and IMO it reflects a lot less than white. As for the Corsa/ Saxo debate, I've seen them with fogs on, also seen Fiesta's, Focus', Honda Civics,,,,,,,the list goes on!

As to Mr Roony's fathers Volvo, IIRC, older Volvo's had a rocker switch for the front fogs which could have been inadvertently left on?

I think you can almost excuse Boy Racers in older cars, not that i see many of those anymore, they seem to have more taste or common sense in Scotland and a better choice of cars.

Other than the drivers of Old BMW's that never seem to get out of the Fog/Driving light on habit..

Drivers of new or newer & quite often expensive cars have no excuse IMHO.

RTFOM seems to apply to many drivers.

More importantly imo, adhere to or observe the Highway Code.

george

It's getting silly on the roads now, so many people driving around with schit looking drls and chavvs in old cavaliers with their front fogs on is ridiculous, IMO this is down to them thinking the law has changed because there's loads of new cars with drls on, so their justification for leaving fogs on

The use of fogs on a clear day is a useful way of spotting twonks but not a big problem. It is using them on a clear night against on coming traffic that ticks me off. Then they can obscure vision for other people.

Edited 28 December, 201213 yr by Richard46

Also after market DRL's..WTF?

Especially bad on a new car or when one side doesn't work properly.

Total waste of money!!

IMHO by the way

I use mine as I have lamin-X on my headlights which reduce the light output. I accepted this drawback when I decided to put this on, so choose to use my fogs to replace what light I am missing.

I don't use my rear fogs unless it's foggy.

Seriously, remove the lamin-x. What's the point of crippling your headlights? Reading your post, at least your fog light use is courteous, so I don't really have a problem with it, but I'd rather have all my lights work as intended, and it must be a PITA having to turn them on/off as a dipped beam substitute.

I actually think the inappropriate use of front fogs is due to marketing. Brochures always show the higher trim models, with fogs on, so it became a status symbol.

But he must have been getting in and turning them on each time?

Quite possibly not, in a car of that vintage. I know my Mk1 Golf didn't cancel the fogs, and think the Mk2 didn't. I think my 98 Ibiza was the first I had that did.

I hate the colour of my drls but way better than some out there

The use of fogs on a clear day is a useful way of spotting twonks but not a big problem. It is using them on a clear night against on coming traffic that ticks me off. Then they can obscure vision for other people.

I hate it in the rain, but no fog. The light scatters off the road (because front fogs are aimed low).

I think it's all down to ignorance:

1: They don't know what the lights are actually for, but the green warning light looks good and green is used for good warnings.

2: They don't understand the Highway code

As for tinting your headlamps to an extent which reduces their light output, that's just plain stupid and I hate having to share the roads with drivers that do stupid things to their cars, or skimp on their cars maintenance or drive in an inconsiderate manner.

The psychology is:

'I'll do as I want, sod anyone else and if I get reprimanded for it then it must be somebody elses fault'

IIRC my grandads Volvo 340 had rocker switches for the fog lights and no light on the instruments so it was very easy to drive around with them on without realising.

I find that front fogs give you a lot of reflection off the road immediately in front of you and actually make it harder to see further ahead on unlit roads and so actually reduce what you can see.

I think most of the time it's down to people just not thinking, just being mindless like normal. "It's foggy, therefore I must put on my fog lights" (even though its nothing like the less than 100m the highway code states, but they don't know this because the last time they read the highway code was x number of years ago when they did their L test and "who reads the highway code?!...geek!").

Then when the 'fog' has cleared, they aren't sufficiently on the ball to remember they're turned on, so they stay on until they realise 2 days later or until a traffic cop happens to drive past and pulls them over to give them a ticket ("sorry officer I didn't realise I'd left them on") :think:

They now need and want them set as Cornering Fogs & Cornering Fogs that automatically come on as they reverse.

T_W_A_T lights, 'This way and that' lights.

Christ, the one-man-war against cornering lights continues.