Had my 1.2 Tsi petrol Yeti's first service yesterday. Checked the oil today and was surprised that it was black, thought it would be fairly clean and clear like it was for the first few thousand miles from new.

Anyone else noticed this? Oil is Castrol Edge.

That's odd given that this is a petrol engine.

Would agree odd with a fairly new petrol engine :wonder:

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Yes, I have the same engine and have never had this experience, I would take it back and ask for their explanation. :wonder:

My diesel yeti was serviced on Saturday and the oil isn't "black".

It isn't as nice as I'd expect on a petrol but it isn't black and this is on the variable service too.

It was black as pitch before the service mind.

Sounds iffy to me.

Is this down to the practice of sucking the oil out through the dipstick tube?

Did not check mine same day as service, (1.2Tsi) but about a week later it was fairly black.

Assumed oil changed (trusted) dealer so didn't check with them as probably wouldn't admit to missing it anyway.

My Honda stays clear and only gradually changes colour over 12 months service interval.

Have you checked was changed?

shine a torch or light at it or swirl it in a container and ill bet it doesnt look that black then

Asked the garage for an explanation and they told me to bring the car in for them to look at. On arrival the Technical manager checked the oil colour and then showed me the difference between "old" oil from a car awaiting an oil change (Fabia 1.2 Tsi) and "new" oil from my Yeti when wiped on a white towel. I could then easily see the difference, that from my car was clearly less dirty and less dark - although it was darker than I expected. Manager told me that this was a common question. He showed me they change the oil by draining and not by sucking out.

Good reaction from garage I thought.

Looks like they may have done a crap job of draining it as the engine should be quite warm when oil dropped to maximise the most out but they may have done it on a stone cold engine where the oil would of been alot thicker so alot harder to get completely out.

I had my diesel golf serviced before and checked the oil a week later and it was still quite golden (new oily colour) coloured.

But that was from a decent vag specialist garage not a stealer.

I have a 60,000 mile old Renault Clio 182 Trophy which I use for trackdays, the oil is changed every year and even after all those miles it remains golden - always. A new car with black oil is not good in my opinion, can't be right....

Looks like they may have done a crap job of draining it as the engine should be quite warm when oil dropped to maximise the most out but they may have done it on a stone cold engine where the oil would of been alot thicker so alot harder to get completely out.

I had my diesel golf serviced before and checked the oil a week later and it was still quite golden (new oily colour) coloured.

But that was from a decent vag specialist garage not a stealer.

Quite possibly the explanation. The dealer is only a mile from where I live and I know it waited 4-5 hours for the oil change so I suspect the oil was stone cold when it was changed as the ambient temperature was about 4 degrees. I doubt the mechanic would have let it drain for very long before replacing the sump plug and refilling with new oil so new mixed with a small percentage of old is dark coloured oil! Next time I will arrange a fixed time, hope for warmer weather and and take the car for a 5 mile run before the oil change.

It needs more than 5 miles to get the oil warm, even using the "Italian de-coke" system!

If you've got "oil temp" on the Maxidot watch how long it takes to get up to 80+

Perhaps doesn't add a lot to the discussion but, purely as a matter of interest, see Skoda recommendations for draining oil for the consumption test - not surprising that it doesn't fully drain on a normal service:

1.

When measuring the consumption, always use new oil, do not replace the oil filter.

2.

Heat the engine oil to 80°C, drain it; after 10 minutes, rotate the engine 3 times in the direction of normal rotation and let the oil drain until the total time of 20 minutes is reached.

Next time mark the oil filter,so you can see if it's been changed. :wonder:

My local dealer certainly used the drain plug to empty the oil - and failed to tighten it properly so it leaked half the oil onto my drive overnight!

(they did offer to clean my drive but appalling that the ONLY bolt they touch in a service wasn't torqued correctly, thankfully I spotted it just before we set off on a 6hr motorway drive with the family in the car....)

Is this down to the practice of sucking the oil out through the dipstick tube?

There's nothing wrong with this method. I've used it for the past 60000 miles or so with no deleterious effects.

Or they could be charging for 4.5litres and only putting in ??????

If the oil has been changed properly it will be clean on the dip stick, and should stay like that for some time. Regardless of what any workshop manager tells you.

Agree ^^^ 100%. A slight exception could occur on moving from mineral oil to synthetic but, on a car filled with synthetic from the factory, oil should appear lovely & clean after an oil change.

I wouldn't lose any sleep over it though - it's just a fact of life that garages rarely bother to get oil up to temperature and drain fully - I can't say I blame them!

(P.S. & Skoda approve either draining or pumping out)

1 week after the service and oil is still clean on the dipstick.

I was charged for changing the drain plug - claimed to be a routine procedure as the carter / plug are made of aluminum. Does anybody know about that ?

1 week after the service and oil is still clean on the dipstick.

I was charged for changing the drain plug - claimed to be a routine procedure as the carter / plug are made of aluminum. Does anybody know about that ?

Taken from ElsaWin Lubrication system>summary of components:

- Oil drain plug, 30 Nm

• with captive seal
  

• replace
  

The sump is aluminium, the plug is steel but has the captive washer, should only cost 99p.

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