The replacement is ordered from the factory!!

Can't be bothered any more, as you are obviously an expert on everything!

Sore loser?

The dealer put their own order in the system just like my order for my car, and they have to wait for it to come through, which is why when I ordered mine, Yeti were as rare as hens teeth and many dealers didn't have any to sell as they were waiting 4-6 months for delivery.

While I was waiting for mine to arrive I was offered a couple by my dealer, that they had ordered but I didn't like the spec or colour, so waited for mine.

The salesman was placing orders, but if they were not allocated to a buyer, any Skoda dealer could nick it if they had somebody who wanted it. Which happened a few times I was told.

Indeed, these are dealer spec cars and not bespoke customer orders. Which is again my original point. 900,000 and others were arguing that almost all cars are built to customer spec with no inventory held. But as you have shown above, this isn't accurate. There is unallocated stock on hand for most models and dealers are re-stocked through these.

The Yeti is the exception with almost no inventory to chose from. Normally a customer buying a car is offered dealer stock, if the options don't suit then the trawl the inventory. If still no suitable cars are found then one is built to order. Just like yours.

Note no facts :lol:

A TapaTalk enabled phone was used to write this...

Your post was quite useful and informative.

Moving back on topic... was there any link for the Yeti with ye olde clearing house DSG fitted to ye olde clearing house 170TDi?

Answer this question:

When a dealer needs to replace a sold show-room model, where does that car come from and how long do they have to wait?

I think a fair few people have answered this already but you know best as to how the UK works so you ignored all the answers that don't suit your world.

Indeed, these are dealer spec cars and not bespoke customer orders. Which is again my original point. 900,000 and others were arguing that almost all cars are built to customer spec with no inventory held.

You seem to have no grasp of the word "almost" which you just used. What is the difference between a customer spec and a dealer spec?! I ask you?! Does it matter if a customer ticked some boxes three months ago to order a car or a dealer?!

I will leave it at that because like stated above this is getting

Indeed, these are dealer spec cars and not bespoke customer orders. Which is again my original point. 900,000 and others were arguing that almost all cars are built to customer spec with no inventory held. But as you have shown above, this isn't accurate. There is unallocated stock on hand for most models and dealers are re-stocked through these.

The Yeti is the exception with almost no inventory to chose from. Normally a customer buying a car is offered dealer stock, if the options don't suit then the trawl the inventory. If still no suitable cars are found then one is built to order. Just like yours.

You also have to remember that up until about 4 weeks prior to build, the spec can be changed. Therefore a dealer ordered car could become a bespoke customer spec car if it hasn't already been allocated.

I'm not sure if they can change the model up until that time (e.g. change a 1.2Tsi two wheel drive to a 170 4 x 4), but the colour and options can be changed. Therefore it's difficult and possibly impossible to give accurate figures as to how many orders placed on the factory are actually to a customer spec at the outset. However, by the time they're built, more will be to customer spec than was the case at time of order.

This, of course, is only relevant to the EU market.

You also have to remember that up until about 4 weeks prior to build, the spec can be changed. Therefore a dealer ordered car could become a bespoke customer spec car if it hasn't already been allocated.

There's a time-band thing about what you can change until when. I can't remember any of the milestones, but what you can change gets more restrictive as you get closer to the build beginning.

There's a time-band thing about what you can change until when. I can't remember any of the milestones, but what you can change gets more restrictive as you get closer to the build beginning.

Exactly. And why? It takes longer to build a DSG gearbox or an engine for just-in-time delivery. So these things get locked into the build earlier than others. The very last, last thing you can obviously change (theoretically even on the day of build) is of course the paint colour of the car...

He is back then

That make 2 on my f idiots list

And on mine!!

I wonder why this section seems to collect them?

And on mine!!

What is the difference between a customer spec and a dealer spec?! I ask you?! Does it matter if a customer ticked some boxes three months ago to order a car or a dealer?!

Yes it matters. It is the distinction between a bespoke car (customer order) and a stock order (dealer/distributor). That is the point none of you seem willing to accept. Dealer specced cars are not customer specced cars in any way, shape or form.

And on mine!!

I wonder why this section seems to collect them?

I notice a common theme with your arguments Graham and it goes exactly like this:

Start tenuous argument.

Assert position without facts.

Lose tenuous argument.

Unable to graciously admit that you are wrong, you then start trying to mock or insult the other parties.

It's not me either. Excellent example right here: http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/270107-goodyear-vector-4-seasons/page__st__60

Needless to say, such tactics are terrible for the wellbeing of forums like this one. Not to mention your own reputation.

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Yes it matters. It is the distinction between a bespoke car (customer order) and a stock order (dealer/distributor). That is the point none of you seem willing to accept. Dealer specced cars are not customer specced cars in any way, shape or form.

I notice a common theme with your arguments Graham and it goes exactly like this:

Start tenuous argument.

Assert position without facts.

Lose tenuous argument.

Unable to graciously admit that you are wrong, you then start trying to mock or insult the other parties.

Needless to say, such tactics are terrible for the wellbeing of forums like this one. Not to mention your own reputation.

I read today in Auto Express that there's going to be another 4x4 model, slightly bigger than the Yeti.

Makes no comment about the bickering and tries to put thread back on topic.....

Paul,

Not seen the current AE, but the only "MaxiYeti" that we know about is due to be built in the China factory as a unique model for there only. This has been raised several times in the past.

There has been something about a possible larger "not Yeti" model but I thought that VAG had vetoed it.

Johann,

Use the "button", you know it makes sense.

Has someone said something again :think:

Paul,

Not seen the current AE, but the only "MaxiYeti" that we know about is due to be built in the China factory as a unique model for there only. This has been raised several times in the past.

There has been something about a possible larger "not Yeti" model but I thought that VAG had vetoed it.

Johann,

Use the "button", you know it makes sense.

I've been here over three years and tonight is only the second time ever I had to use that button... sad. And the first time was also just a few weeks ago.

I read today in Auto Express that there's going to be another 4x4 model, slightly bigger than the Yeti.

Makes no comment about the bickering and tries to put thread back on topic.....

Indeed they were thinking along the lines of giving Skoda something just smaller than the Touareg. Seeing the latest VW concepts at the motor shows they had an MQB based five seat (CrossBlue Coupe) on show in China and seven seat SUV (CrossBlue) on show earlier in the USA. Yes MQB - ie Golf based - and in size just under the Touareg.

CrossBlue

CrossBlue Coupe

So I think this car bigger than a Yeti Paul007 mentions will be based on something like that.

And the Yeti II? (Not the facelift of the current one) Will that be MQB or again a mix like ours now of Polo, Passat and Audi TT bits? Who knows. But chances are about 90% that it too will be MQB based. And to get properly on topic again: will that have a 170hp DSG? I sure hope so!!!

My second ever ignore-also in the last 2 weeks. Pity but it does give relief.

Johann,

Use the "button", you know it makes sense.

Please do Graham. It'll save me a lot of explaining.

I'm one ahead of you John!

Must be getting 'Meldrewish'

I'm one ahead of you John!

Must be getting 'Meldrewish'

Is there a better role model than Victor Mildrew?! I love him.

Is there a better role model than Victor Mildrew?! I love him.

+ infinity!!

Indeed they were thinking along the lines of giving Skoda something just smaller than the Touareg. Seeing the latest VW concepts at the motor shows they had an MQB based five seat (CrossBlue Coupe) on show in China and seven seat SUV (CrossBlue) on show earlier in the USA. Yes MQB - ie Golf based - and in size just under the Touareg.

CrossBlue

 

 

 

Found this on the web - what the new Superb could look like (yes the bigger MQB based Škoda might be called the Superb since the Octavia has now gone upmarket and is doing the current Superb's role):

 

Sorry but YOU assume too much. The car they replace these with were ordered three or four, maybe even six months before.

Yes, SUK and any UK importer pre order some cars. Of course they do. To satisfy a limited amount of people that walk into the door to get a car there and then. I bought my Audi that way. But on the whole (in Europe! Not NZ as I don't dare assume things of a country I don't live in) the bulk of cars (including the show room cars) are pre ordered months before delivery. That is why sometimes a car will sit on the dealer floor with a sold sign on it since the dealer can't let it go (even though he sold it) until the next pre ordered demo arrives.

Just go to the Škoda second hand section on their website. Look at the demos on sale there. They all give a specific date in the FUTURE that they will be available to buy at. Why? Because that is the due date of the next pre-ordered demo. Not exactly rocket science.

Johann, I was always led to believe the date in the future for selling was due to the 90 day ruling for tax benefits, bonus and discount.

Sorry, just noticed you were referring to demos and not pre-reg.