I have been looking at these as I fancy a big boot for camping and the hatch is bigger than many estate cars I was looking at.

Fancy my first auto box as I travel 300 miles a week mainly in traffic on motorways or A roads and think I have become lazy as I have got older.

Current car Fiesta does combined of 62 but realistically I get 52-55 mpg from it so I would expect similar of the 2.0 skoda or slightly better with the 1.6

Is the 1.6 powered enough ? Probably coming from a 1.4 fiesta it will feel like an F1 car or is the 2.0 better to go for.

What are the DSG's like in the snow as we get it now and again and I live in hilly area ?

Anyone got one of these on PCP deals with 30% deposit and what sort of monthly cost is it over 36 months and GFV or is this all negotiable ?

I have the 1.6 with DSG.

 

 

Good points -

 

DSG is effortless.

 

With DSG in Eco mode the car 'coasts' when not under load (e.g. downhills) which really helps fuel economy.

 

The engine is pretty quiet and refined. It has enough get up and go for most situations and is better than what I thought it would be.

 

Especially to consider for the 1.6 TDI, if you go for the manual it's five speed, DSG has seven so does away with any complaints about the gearing which some reviews bring up.

 

I came from an A3 2.0 TDI 140 with DSG so, yes, it's not got as much power but isn't too bad.

 

Based on prices it was either the 2.0 OR the DSG and I'm glad I went for that.

 

 

Bad/weak points - 

 

Have done 2,000 miles and long term fuel economy is at the 52 mpg (wide mix of types of driving) - expected better, hope this improves.

 

 

No snow to test it on (yet!) but had DSG (S-Tronic) on the A3 and you can always use this as a manual to cope with snow/wheelspin.

 

I didn't use the PCP but took out standard finance.

Edited 6 August, 201312 yr by Igdos

Anyone got one of these on PCP deals with 30% deposit and what sort of monthly cost is it over 36 months and GFV or is this all negotiable ?

.

I'm ordering the 2.0TDI DSG Hatch. With a £5,600 deposit and a GFV of £10,575, I will be paying £292.00 for 36 months. That's with lots of options added (love my gadgets!) and around a 5% discount. The maximum GFV is set by Skoda, but you can lower it if you wish. Mine is based on 12k per year.

DSG and snow no problems generally (as Igdos says, just use the Manual function instead) - although snow/winter tyres are much better than any electronics and worth their weight in gold.

Hi,

Thanks for your responses and clearing my concerns about Auto and snow. I presume you can just put it in 2nd gear which I always found better in my previous cars for snow apart from my current Fiesta which would stall in that gear so end up spinning more in 1st. What do you do do you get the local tyre place to swap your tyres over in the winter and then back again after ?

Igdos do you have the SE or Elegence and hatch or estate ?

I wanted initially an estate but then thats about 2k more so it would have to be a choice between Estate SE or Elegence Hatch and then I have the same issue on gearbox then determining the trim. At the moment I am swaying towards the Elegence 1.6 DSG hatch as the boot is very big compared to other estates.

My current car has 62 combined MPG but I get about 52-55 so even if the 1.6 gave those sort of returns it would be comparable with current car but much bigger car and the added benefit of auto. I was hoping on the 1.6 DSG to get about 58-60 mpg so it might be slightly less than my expectations.

Spacenase you put in the sort of value I am looking at putting in as Part Ex. Which trim did you get ? I would be looking at 15k I think so I guess that would reduce the GFV slightly. I think the 1.6 to 2.0 cost is about £900 i think. What extras did you get and how much ? What MPG are you getting from your 2.0 ?

My car is still running in and the aircon has been working hard due to the weather. I have been using Fuelly (see my signature) to measure my economy and I have averaged about 53mpg just driving normally. Mine's the 2.0 TDi manual -I do a lot of town driving in addition to the motorway work (where the computer is saying I average 60mpg from London to Lincoln) 

Hi, Thanks for your responses and clearing my concerns about Auto and snow. I presume you can just put it in 2nd gear which I always found better in my previous cars for snow apart from my current Fiesta which would stall in that gear so end up spinning more in 1st. 

DSG will always start off in 1st gear, but changes into 2nd very quickly.

Spacenase you put in the sort of value I am looking at putting in as Part Ex. Which trim did you get ? I would be looking at 15k I think so I guess that would reduce the GFV slightly. I think the 1.6 to 2.0 cost is about £900 i think. What extras did you get and how much ? What MPG are you getting from your 2.0 ?

 

I've ordered the Elegance hatch with lots of options costing around £4,800. I'm still waiting for a build date, so I haven't got any MPG figures yet.

Igdos do you have the SE or Elegence and hatch or estate ?

I wanted initially an estate but then thats about 2k more so it would have to be a choice between Estate SE or Elegence Hatch and then I have the same issue on gearbox then determining the trim. At the moment I am swaying towards the Elegence 1.6 DSG hatch as the boot is very big compared to other

I've got the estate, Elegance spec.

When I ordered the mark-up for estate vs. hatch was £800, don't think it would be £2k difference.

Hatch certainly has decent boot but for me just needed more space - also I prefer the look of the estate.

2.0 manual all the way no contest

Hi,

Thanks for clearing the costs up I think I got the 2K extra between the SE and Elegence but its actually 1850. Will have to work out what I get for that.

Estate over the hatch is £800 and £900 more for the 2.0 over 1.6 as people said above.

Will have to work my figures out but I think I prefer the Elegence but then I think will have to make the choice between Hatch or Estate or 1.6 and 2.0.

I think I have made the choice already on DSG over Manual as I do about 65 miles a day round trip to work each day mostly on the M60/M62 so pretty much stop/start at certain points.

I am no supporter of paying extra for colour when you have paid £20k plus for a car but I do like the Corrida Red best anyway. Anyone else got this and what do they think. I think of the other colours I would go for black or white.

I think at the moment the only extras I would possibly get is the spare wheel and towbar as I have not liked the fact I have tyre repair kit in my current car. The only time I had a tyre issue was a rear wheel blow out which this was useless for. However thats the first blow out I have had with a tyre in my time driving so maybe its a little unfair.

Any other useful information from people to assist with my selection would be useful.

If you are doing high mileage and paying or the fuel yourself just bear in mind reading the various threads here that there appears to be a significant fuel consumption penalty (as much as 10 mpg) with DSG over the manual, not a scientific comparison by any means as we all have different driving styles and different roads / traffic conditions, but definitely a lot thirstier.

Thanks for your response Timoctav

I understand there is a fuel penalty for DSG over Manual. I currently do max 15k per year and I am comparing this with my current fuel consumption of a car with combined that should be 62mpg but I get between 52-55mpg for manual small car. If I can get an automatic and a bigger car that I can get a similar or if not better fuel consumption then I will be happy.

I think I am just becoming lazy and dont like all the gear changing in traffic and I liked the automatic I drove in the US earlier this year.

Thanks for your response though.

No problem and quite understand the attraction of automatic, not knocking it at all....my sports car is automatic (double clutch) and my wife's Jazz is auto also.

Sod both and buy the Vrs! That's what it's all about now lol

Sod both and buy the Vrs! That's what it's all about now lol

 

No thanks - very happy with my Elegance!!

...... only extras I would possibly get is the spare wheel and towbar.

 

You do realise that the "towbar" is not actually a towbar but the electrical preparation for accepting one?  You'll then have to get the towbar fitted at additional cost once you receive the car.

 

I asked for clarification of this from Skoda when speccing up an Elegance Estate back in June. 

I have 1.6 TDI DSG in Corrida Red BTW 

I use normal settings for driving. Economic annoyed me and for me is less fuel efficient than normal.

I'm using cruise control every day so it's even less economic (from my experience).

As you can see in my signature it's not that bad with consumption.

Also I don't have problems with not enough power. My previous car was MK II FL Octavia with 1.4 TSI, so I have some comparison.

Till this moment I'm very happy with my choice.

Edited 10 August, 201312 yr by Arex

If you are doing high mileage and paying or the fuel yourself just bear in mind reading the various threads here that there appears to be a significant fuel consumption penalty (as much as 10 mpg) with DSG over the manual, not a scientific comparison by any means as we all have different driving styles and different roads / traffic conditions, but definitely a lot thirstier.

If you look at "real mpg" on Honest John, I think you will find that the above statement is very far from the truth.

Dill

If you look at "real mpg" on Honest John, I think you will find that the above statement is very far from the truth.

Dill

I'm going by the real life consumption figures quoted by various owners here on Briskoda....Most DSG owners here seem lucky to get 50 mpg. So - what is the truth?

I'm going by the real life consumption figures quoted by various owners here on Briskoda....Most DSG owners here seem lucky to get 50 mpg. So - what is the truth?

 

 

The truth is don't bother asking as you will never get the truth anyway and the Honest John figures are sourced from users sending in "their" figures so not accurate by a long chalk,

 

As a former DSG owner I can say the official urban figures were not far out, 2mpg at worst, it can't match the manual no matter what anyone tells you and will trail a stick by around 7mpg,

 

I'd be surprised if irl the 1.6 is anymore eco than the 2.0 in DSG form, one has small CC and BHP the other has BHP and CC's so power to weight ratio's should come into play and level things to a degree,

 

I did see a 1.6TDi Toledo manual showing 59mpg but I can't say what use it had achieved that figure under,

 

Had a mate try to tell me his 2.0 PD DSG returned 45MPG about town the other day "wazzat I smell" even the B7's only quote 44 urban and it's the same figure for both DSG and M so I doub't official figures have been submitted for the 2.0 DSG B7 and they are slinging the Manual figures in as DSG ones, I'd need to test drive it before I could say yay or nay tbh,

 

And for the petrol people here's what I was getting from a 1.4TSi Golf DSG urban......32mpg which I thought was really good,

 

I'd be interested to hear from someone with a 2.0 CR DSG car that they use to go shopping etc and not much motorway and see their figures, I'll bet that 44 MPG VW claim is about 37 irl.

I am still amazed at the real fuel economy I'm getting from my manual Elegance 2.0, it is accurate as I brim the tank each time, note the mileage and litres put in - I'm now quite disappointed when I end up with consumption worse than 60 mpg! But I do try and drive economically, fairly gentle and smooth acceleration and top speed on the motorway of around 75 mph. I also take notice of the Eco-tip gizmo which encourages changing up much earlier than I otherwise would. I am sure if I drove more aggressively the fuel consumption would worsen markedly. At the next fill I'll set the driving mode to sport to see what difference that makes.

I'd be interested to hear from someone with a 2.0 CR DSG car that they use to go shopping etc and not much motorway and see their figures, I'll bet that 44 MPG VW claim is about 37 irl.

 

Sounds like our car. My profile:

 

6000 miles per year

including:

1900 miles to the alps return on holiday each year.

250 miles to the lakes once a year

3850 miles nipping to supermarket and other errands (I work from home).

 

We get 44mpg on the computer over a tank which works out pretty accurate when I've bothered to do brim to brim comparisons. If am especially careful, I can get 55mpg on A roads from here to Chester (for example). We get 50mpg on the drive to the alps.

 

Ours is a 2.0 DSG vRS

I realise its a bit off topic but someone mentioned the 1.4 tsi DSG.

I got mine in July 2010 and have geekishly kept tank to tank mpg stats all the way through its life. It now has 63k miles on it and my new Octy arrives in Oct I hope.

Over its life, the tank mpg has varied between 36 and 44.37 (best ever). I haven't averaged it out but I reckon it would probably be about 39.

I think this is perfectly acceptable given the cheaper fuel and the refinement. Interestingly, since I changed to Goodyear Efficient Grips, I always do 40 mpg plus. I bought them for their quietude (as PG Wodehouse might have said), their wet weather performance and of course their low price. What's not to like?

My replacement 2.0 diesel DSG better do a lot better! I shall miss the astonishing silence of the 1.4 against the agricultural rattle of the diesel but my firm pays 2p extra per mile for over 1500 cc engines. I'm a bit worried about the DPF nonsense. Only six miles to work so some days I won't do any more than twelve miles.

Dill

......I shall miss the astonishing silence of the 1.4 against the agricultural rattle of the diesel but my firm pays 2p extra per mile for over 1500 cc engines. I'm a bit worried about the DPF nonsense. Only six miles to work so some days I won't do any more than twelve miles

Dill

The diesel isn't that bad, I'd describe it as grumbly rather than rattly, but no, it isn't anything like as smooth as a good petrol engine. Re the DPF, if you take the car for a good run once a week you'll be fine. Without that a six mile trip on a regular basis might be asking for trouble.