To be fair, the commentator does say that the ST has a longer wheelbase.

However, he does not state that it has a longer wheelbase than the regular Leon.

He may just be spouting that the new Leon has a longer wheelbase compared to the old model for all we know.

In any case, I don't like the ST and wouldn't pick it over the Octy. The ST interior looks awful and I don't like the exterior styling. I don't think the Golf looks good as an estate either.

I'm not a Skoda brand stalwart as the car in my sig is my first of the brand.

I need a load carrying estate, not a hatch or a tourer. Out of a large, varied choice of estates within my budget, the Octy has the right recipe for me, here and now.

Remember as well that the Leon SC (3door) and the Leon 5 door have different wheelbases with the latter being Golf sized

I posted link to a video in post #216, if you chose to click it you will hear the guy responsible for design of Leon ST say that they increased wheel base on ST vs Leon hatch to give more interior space.

But longer compared to what?! Where does anyone state that the ST's wheelbase is longer than the current 5 doors?

Think this think need a new title..... 'Do anyone know how long a Seat Leon is, and does it really matter?'

Think this think need a new title..... 'Do anyone know how long a Seat Leon is, and does it really matter?'

yes, if you are in the market for a new family car, the interior space is a pretty important consideration.

Well wouldn't it be easier to look in the brochure for said cars and instead of bickering about Seats on a Skoda forum?

Well wouldn't it be easier to look in the brochure for said cars and instead of bickering about Seats on a Skoda forum?

no, because the ST details aren't listed in any brochure or public literature, hence the discussion of interest here.

no, because the ST details aren't listed in any brochure or public literature, hence the discussion of interest here.

Maybe call Seat UK? If there's nothing on paper anywhere then they're the only people who will know.... and if they don't then no one will...

Seat Uk won't confirm until the ST is open to orders but the idea is a simple one.

Fair enough.

They haven't done Rapid vRS because they recon smaller engined vRS's don't sell and Rapid was designed to accommodate only the smaller engines (1.2 and 1.4 etc). In recent interview with head of Skoda he said that they sold so few vRS Fabias on mainland continent that they just decided to pull the plug on re-developing small engines into high output sport versions indefinitely. But what they discovered in the process of making the last Fabia vRS is that what sells among young people is special editions, Monte Carlo version was very popular, so we might see that kind of "makeover" on Rapid.

In my opinion they havn't sold the vRS Fabia due to very strong competition in that sector, is that what they mean by not developing high output small engines, theres no point in an already saturated market?

In my opinion they havn't sold the vRS Fabia due to very strong competition in that sector, is that what they mean by not developing high output small engines, theres no point in an already saturated market?

Agreed. The original fabia vRS being diesel only had a niche and it did very well from that by switching to petrol it was doomed from day one.