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  • That's not always the case. My Yeti does not spin the front wheels before sending more drive to the rear in some situations. Haldex looks at inputs from various sensors before working out where to s

  • Sorry, but that statement is extremely ungenerous!! The Haldex 4 system as fitted to the Yeti is a very advanced system. It suggests you neither have any experience of it nor have you actually read a

Love how they twist the camera to make the hill look steeper, they don't seem to realise tree's grow straight up.......... unless they all grow at a funny angle just around this slope..... :D

 

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ok, do you see here trees pointing in wrong direction? even peple are standing down there straight up.

This is not haldex i know but still incredible. Camera angle?

 

At least a 1 in 1 gradient - incredible. But then Land Rover are the experts at AWD.

 

Great video.

Going down a hill like that is truly frightening!

I believe in the Haldex system, it is very clever and extremely reliable too.

 

 In the Yeti it was very good on and off road, the older version in the Golf is also very good, it makes track racing in the wet a very enjoyable experience, as for the steepness of the hills and if Haldex is good or not, one would assume the tyre choice has a big influence on this.

 

 Yeti with haldex vs Fabia, off road........... only one winner there.

Going down a hill like that is truly frightening!

I would be terrified, and doubt if I would dare do it either as a driver or a passenger.

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Finally I found Touareg video which I believe has haldex as well, as we can see there is no camera tricks here and the hill is pretty steep.

Wonder though if haldex can be programmed differently in other cars.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxeYllDjHUE

I don't think Touregs use haldex as they produce too much torque and the engines are longitudinally mounted. I believe they are standard torsen diffs.

As for landrovers, Freelanders are haldex equipped too :)

I think it can be programmed as different controllers could be purchased for different applications, iirc there was an orange and a blue controller that made the system operate with different characteristics, the blue one keeps all wheels driving on deceleration for track use so maybe the new controllers are adaptable.. Someone will know 

I would be terrified, and doubt if I would dare do it either as a driver or a passenger.

 

It used to be fun teaching people who had never driven anything with a "low" box, getting them to stop right on the edge, then putting it into 1st and taking both their feet off the pedals. They expect it to stall, but of course, as it is going downhill it doesn't, just slowly engine brakes itself downwards.

 

In Freelander 1's with HDC it was getting them to actually trust it, specially as it makes a terrible noise. However it certainly did work.

 

In most situations women were easier to teach then men; they don't have balls!!

Or stupid preconceived notions.

 

Only Freelander 2's use Haldex

ok, do you see here trees pointing in wrong direction? even peple are standing down there straight up.

This is not haldex i know but still incredible. Camera angle?

 

Think it's fair to say I'd be sh!tting myself if I was in that !

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does anybody know what that offroad button in yeti/tiguan does except  turning off ESP and turning on hill assist ?

For instance is EDL engaged too in this mode?

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All done by the electronics, use of ABS Sensors, sometimes nipping of brakes on of pads on discs,

driver input almost not required,

just a slight understanding of the system is useful,

as with all 4x4, AWD or Part Time AWD/4x4 Systems.

 

wrong, driver skills are still required as on this video. Without driver input any AWD system would fail here.

 

? Are you saying he was a good driver in that video and skilled?

Maybe you had best go get some offroad driver training before venturing offroad in your new vehicle.

 

Yes driver input was required there,

because without there could have been a 'fail' with another driver.

Yet another might pick a better/different line in the first place , or done it at a different speed or in a different gear,

and have less of a song and dance about it.

(if the car in that vid had gone left while spinning tyres instead of right, it could easily have ended in tears)

 

Too many Drivers buy a AWD and thinks i can drive hard as i like and i am fine i have a 4x4,

as is shown by how many 4x4s you see every winter sitting getting no place or slid into kerbs and ditches,

as a £8,000 front wheel drive car on Summer tyrer drive up the hill.

 

Salesman forgot to tell them that £25,000-£60,000 spent on a Part Time AWD on standard tyres did not mean you could get anyplace anytime and you could drive just like normal and you have a superior vehicle.

Tyres and being heavier can be a great equaliser.

 

george

 

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Still no videos or pictures of any Members here driving Offroad with their Yeti's.?

Surely some must go places other than on tracks or Green Lanes or over a hump or 2 of earth.

wrong, driver skills are still required as on this video. Without driver input any AWD system would fail here.

 

I see no driver skills involved in that clip. The opposite in fact!

The driver did not assess his approach route, did not take into account the lump in the way, did not allow the 4 wheel drive system to work properly, did not continue at a steady pace. In fact a rubbish driver.

 

And why did you keep posting rubbish videos of a Tiguan? It is not a Yeti and does not have the same exact system.

Still no videos or pictures of any Members here driving Offroad with their Yeti's.?

Surely some must go places other than on tracks or Green Lanes or over a hump or 2 of earth.

 

I don't do much offroading, but when I do, I tend to be driving the Yeti rather than being outside it with a camera. I find it much easier to operate the controls from inside the car. ;)

OK, So no incar Video equipment, or just no mates.   Lots of us are like that.

 

george

I think Rockhopper had his Yeti off road on salisbury plain, there is some video too.

 

 I used mine but no pictures, it was capable but not enough ground clearance but with that in mind it was not designed to go head to head with a Land Rover Defender.

Offroad like on Tank Practice ground,

or Offroad like on the Public Routes/Tracks on Salisbury Plain?

The Yei is a "Soft Roader".

 

Just saying... :happy:

They were on a green lane run on the Byways on Salisbury Plain, George.

Someone has also shown a video of them at one of the P & P sites.

Personally mine regularly gets taken on Forestry tracks which are not RoW's, as do other members who are Rally radio ops.

As Richard said the Yeti is not the equivalent of your Jimny or a Defender, therefore you are being a trifle ungenerous expecting otherwise.

Do you go on routes when there is no snow,

that a Front Wheel Drive Yeti can not also go to equally as well?

 

It is just the Term 'Offroad', we know what they can do,

what Haldex can do and standard tyres, 

What the Ground clearance is, for even getting up tracks with humps in the middle,

& what the damage can be even with a Rough Road Pack.

 

So it seems fair enough to ask 'Who actually goes Offroad' or Off Piste in them,

rather  than On Piste, but off Asphalt.

what recovery points they fit, extra protection or the likes, do they disable the Air Bags etc?

 

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Rally Radio Ops and a Diesel Yeti.

 

You seem a good person to ask,

For Winter Events do you find you are OK sitting stationary for a good few hours

& for periods, with your engine running for heating the car,

& have you never had DPF issues?

OK, So no incar Video equipment, or just no mates.   Lots of us are like that.

 

george

 

In my case, none of either! :D

 

I've not tried inclines or descents like in the videos; my most common is just crossing building sites (where the company car Avensis I had a while back kept grounding) with the occasional bumpy, rutted forest track. To be fair none of what I do probably counts as offroading in the sense I think you meant.

I'm now on my second Yeti Tdi 4x4. Previously I had 3 Subaru Imprezas ( the Sport model with High/Low ratio gearbox) I found them to be much much better in bad winter road conditions than the  Yeti -- using winter tyres in all cases. I'm convinced that 'smart' electronics are actually not a patch on good old fashioned symmetrical 50/50 four wheel drive as used by Subaru-- the SV is becoming strangely appealing !!.

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