In my own experience of offroading hills always look far more gentle on video than they really are.

So I suspect there is some additional camera angle being used to make it look more exciting.

Totally agree with that statement! All of my videos and photos look so tame after the event and you then feel compelled to to say 'it was a lot steeper than it looks, honest!'

 

The only stuff that I have where it looks half realistic was the stuff ive done around the US - these few from last year in Moab probably look half realistic... (but only half!)

 

 

 

That's not always the case.

My Yeti does not spin the front wheels before sending more drive to the rear in some situations.

Haldex looks at inputs from various sensors before working out where to send the power.

Go into a bend hard and you can feel it sending the power rearwards with no front wheel spin.

 

I wonder if haldex in situation like this (uphill) can sense there is much bigger pressure on the rear axle then on front and that's why it sends power there without any slippage from front wheels.

No it measures the turns of the wheels/Spin and puts power to the ones not spinning.

& also stops wheels that are spinning to allow them to possibly regain traction.

 

Obviously that is a simplification,

but then the Haldex is not a technically advanced system no matter what version or edition it is.

Does the job, 

Part Time AWD as required.

Other vehicles might come with Full Time AWD and some with systems that read the pressure on wheels with drive or loss of drive/traction.

No it measures the turns of the wheels/Spin and puts power to the ones not spinning.

& also stops wheels that are spinning to allow them to possibly regain traction.

 

Obviously that is a simplification,

but then the Haldex is not a technically advanced system no matter what version or edition it is.

Does the job, 

Part Time AWD as required.

Other vehicles might come with Full Time AWD and some with systems that read the pressure on wheels with drive or loss of drive/traction.

 

Sorry, but that statement is extremely ungenerous!!

The Haldex 4 system as fitted to the Yeti is a very advanced system. It suggests you neither have any experience of it nor have you actually read anything about it. 

In my own experience of offroading hills always look far more gentle on video than they really are.

So I suspect there is some additional camera angle being used to make it look more exciting.

 

exactly, here is the same hill with view from the top, it's pretty damn steep...

 

No it measures the turns of the wheels/Spin and puts power to the ones not spinning.

& also stops wheels that are spinning to allow them to possibly regain traction.

 

Haldex 4 is torque sensing I believe.  As said above, it doesn't wait for wheelspin before increasing the percentage of drive being sent to the rear.

It's a far better system than the earlier versions which did monitor wheel spin and then send power to the rear.

 

So not just a simplification, but not really being fair to the capabilities of the system.

 

 

For the vehicle, which is effectively a "soft roader" it's ideally suited as it is advanced enough to give benefits on road and doesn't just send drive to the rear wheels when the fronts start spinning off road.

Llanigraham,

sitting outside my house right now is a 62 plate with Haldex.  

But then i just drive, maybe i have no technical knowledge like some members.

Sorry for my misinformation.

Llanigraham,

sitting outside my house right now is a 62 plate with Haldex.  

But then i just drive, maybe i have no technical knowledge like some members.

Sorry for my misinformation.

Hmmm, how does one sitting outside your house help in understanding the system?!

Simply because i have been driving it off and on this past winter.

& 4x4's all my driving life.

Simply because i have been driving it off and on this past winter.

& 4x4's all my driving life.

Right, that sentence is far clearer in its meaning.

It is good that VAG are always making advances and we are now where we are,

i was not slagging the system,

as i keep saying it works as designed, 

and the Proper Tyres for the conditions are a good idea, and if 'offroad' then offroad tyres are a good idea.

Especially descending, where retardation by electronics are all that is stopping you from becoming a heavy tobgogan.

 

Things have moved on, now we are in 2014,

Its worth bearing in mind also that the above video shows vehicles using older awd systems compared the current ones on sale today.

My Octavia 4x4 is pre-FL so I believe its haldex gen 2. In the pouring rain, I can set off without even a chirp from the tyres, so its not useless as described previously and is definitely not waiting for the front to get hopelessly lost. There is also a haldex promotional video out there showing it does know when the car is on an incline and sends the power straight to the back.

 

I'd imagine a much bigger limiting factor offroad, rather than which axle gets drive when is, as is the problem in all the softroaders, slip across the axle where you need enough tyres to have grip for it to not just sit there spinning one wheel on each axle. The only non-dedicated 4x4 I've seen that can cope with that is a Subaru, which can move with only one wheel having grip, as they often show off driving with 3 wheels on rollers.

here is the haldex 5 explained and BTW this above video is heavy subaru biased and quite old as well so have no use in this discussion.

 

My Octavia 4x4 is pre-FL so I believe its haldex gen 2. In the pouring rain, I can set off without even a chirp from the tyres, so its not useless as described previously and is definitely not waiting for the front to get hopelessly lost. There is also a haldex promotional video out there showing it does know when the car is on an incline and sends the power straight to the back.

 

I'd imagine a much bigger limiting factor offroad, rather than which axle gets drive when is, as is the problem in all the softroaders, slip across the axle where you need enough tyres to have grip for it to not just sit there spinning one wheel on each axle. The only non-dedicated 4x4 I've seen that can cope with that is a Subaru, which can move with only one wheel having grip, as they often show off driving with 3 wheels on rollers.

THis here as well - I seem to recall that whilst the Haldex 2 does wait for slip at the front it is a relatively small amount of slip - something liek a quarter of a wheel turn.  So it's not liek they are sat spinning the wheels for a while before drive starts shifting about between axles!

My Octavia 4x4 is pre-FL so I believe its haldex gen 2. In the pouring rain, I can set off without even a chirp from the tyres, so its not useless as described previously and is definitely not waiting for the front to get hopelessly lost. There is also a haldex promotional video out there showing it does know when the car is on an incline and sends the power straight to the back.

 

I'd imagine a much bigger limiting factor offroad, rather than which axle gets drive when is, as is the problem in all the softroaders, slip across the axle where you need enough tyres to have grip for it to not just sit there spinning one wheel on each axle. The only non-dedicated 4x4 I've seen that can cope with that is a Subaru, which can move with only one wheel having grip, as they often show off driving with 3 wheels on rollers.

The Octavia mk1 had gen2 haldex. Octavia mk2 has gen4 haldex, which as said above, works much better than gen2 as it's proactive, rather than just reacting to slipping wheels.

The Octavia mk1 had gen2 haldex. Octavia mk2 has gen4 haldex, which as said above, works much better than gen2 as it's proactive, rather than just reacting to slipping wheels.

Pre FL mkII is gen 2, FL is gen 4. AFAIK mkI had gen 1.

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You learn something new every day. I always thought that the mk1 had gen2

Mk1 Octavia WAS generation 2 Haldex (from around 2001). Thought it was the same on the newer Mk2 until the FL then it went to gen 4 which is what the Yeti got. Only the latest FL Octy gets the newer (actually, slower reacting Borg Warner designed) Gen 5 unit installed afaik as its designed for MQB platform cars. Earlier info indicated that the FL Yeti also had this fitted but I cant confirm this. I had an Octy Mk1 awd Turbo and it was superb although you did hear a slight chirp from the fronts before you felt the acceleration from the rear.

Simply because i have been driving it off and on this past winter.

& 4x4's all my driving life.

It might help if you updated your details below your avatar because that still shows you have a Fabia.

Interested to know what 4x4's you have been driving in the past, as from my experience from teaching owners of Freelander's previously I found that those who were used to things like Defenders needed to alter their ideas quite a lot, due to the different systems involved. 

There are a few of us here who regularly go off-road, mostly on rally special stages, but sometimes a little more "adventurous" who have found the Yeti surprisingly effective.

Thats because i am on a Skoda Forum and have 2 vRS.

If on a VW or Audi Forum i will maybe mention those cars that are VW's or Audis.

 

Do i have to list cars i have so you can pick faults?

 

Graham you know what Jimnys i have or had, and Land Rovers, 

Are you losing your memory?

 

You go to pretty similar Rally Stages to me, and thats on tracks.

Now when you go to 'Comp Safaris' you might have had your Freelanders and Yeti 'Offroad;,

rather than just parked at the side of a road/Track or Green Lane.

I  was a Radio Operator, and an 'Observer-Judge of Fact' @ Offroad & Cross Country Events.

 

Must remember to change my details to show which caravan i have.

I'm not picking faults, but as you don't list a Yeti as being owned it makes it difficult to tell if you have any experience of actually driving one, on or off road.

 

And sorry, but am I supposed to know you? Your details state you are in Norway, and the only people I know who live there are John Haugland or a gent who uses Saltire as name on another forum.

I dont have a Yeti,

i have presently as a tow barge a 62 Plate VAG vehicle with Haldex, and i do not own it.

 

My details say i am in Skocia, UK, EU,

Skocia which is Hungarian for Scotland.

 

Normally you refer to me as 'The Scottish Member.' before reporting me for going Off Topic on a Yeti Sub Section,

as you do regularly. Go OT that is.

post # 3 as an example ,

where you see 'Fabia' so try to get a dig in at a poster with 'Fabia' on their Signature.

Not a Yeti so must be inferior.

 

So George will be just fine this time.

Sorry George, but:

 

1/ I didn't know you had changed your user name

2/ How would I know that Skocia is Hungarian for Scotland? Google shows it as a town in Norway.

3/ I have not reported you.

4/ No "dig" was given or implied.

5/ Off-road a Fabia will probably be inferior to a 4x4 Yeti.

Love how they twist the camera to make the hill look steeper, they don't seem to realise tree's grow straight up.......... unless they all grow at a funny angle just around this slope.....