Do you go on routes when there is no snow,

that a Front Wheel Drive Yeti can not also go to equally as well?

 

It is just the Term 'Offroad', we know what they can do,

what Haldex can do and standard tyres, 

What the Ground clearance is, for even getting up tracks with humps in the middle,

& what the damage can be even with a Rough Road Pack.

 

So it seems fair enough to ask 'Who actually goes Offroad' or Off Piste in them,

rather  than On Piste, but off Asphalt.

what recovery points they fit, extra protection or the likes, do they disable the Air Bags etc?

 

............................................................................

Re,

Rally Radio Ops and a Diesel Yeti.

 

You seem a good person to ask,

For Winter Events do you find you are OK sitting stationary for a good few hours

& for periods, with your engine running for heating the car,

& have you never had DPF issues?

 

George, sorry but I'm still trying to work out how to treat the first part of that quote. It appears that you are being disparaging about the Yeti just as you have been elsewhere in the past about Freelanders.

I feel you are being pedantic about the term "off road". Many of us have taken their cars on Byways, which might technically be roads, but certainly all the 4x4 forums and Clubs I've been involved with have considered that type of use to be "off road" and/or greenlaning. Off piste in illegal!!

From my experience the ground clearance is adequate and certainly comparable with my old Freelanders. It might not be less than your Jimny but with careful route reading it can be overcome, and I don't even have the Off Road package protection!

I have fitted no extra towing points as there are none to be fitted, neither can you disable the airbags. in fact I know of no 4x4 where that is possible, so a worthless question.

 

 

As for your question about leaving the engine running whilst doing radio, never done it or needed to do it, and that includes 12 hour duty on the WRGB. I wear warm clothing and have an accurate voltmeter connected to the battery. I have never seen that read less than 11v, which is perfectly adequate to restart the car.

The Video in Post #1 is Offroading,

(to be pedantic, it is appears to be a purpose built route/course to give displays of Offroading ability, or allow training in a safe environment.)

which is the example being shown of how good Hadex is with Proper Tyres and driver skills.

The point being made is, it works as shown, even with pretty standard tyres and no special driver skills in that Vid.

 

There you go again, talking Jimny's, standard Jimnys have poor ground clearance, poor break over angle

and are rear wheel drive except if the driver chooses Front Wheel drive on loose surfaces, Price more like the bottom of the range FWD Yetis.

(While on the subject, you brought up, great heaters, but rather expensive in fuel to keep the petrol engine running, does 0 mpg while stationary.)

 

the OP and the subject is the Yeti & Haldex,

You are quick to object to OT in the Yeti section usually with others.

OK, So no incar Video equipment, or just no mates.   Lots of us are like that.

 

george

Ive got video of mine at various off road events and am pretty sure ive posted some in the past so try doing a search under my username if you are that keen to see a Yeti off road.

the OP and the subject is the Yeti & Haldex,

You are quick to object to OT in the Yeti section usually with others.

 

OFGS!

Fine, then report it to the Mods as not Yeti specific!

No Graham there is no need, if you usually only wants to talk Yeti, then why go off onto what other vehicles can or can not do.

Apples and pears and not worth comparing.

 

A Jimny that comes standard on Bridgedsone tyres and costs about £13,000 is a scary thing going down a slope like in the Vids posted on here.

 

Not low enough gearing available or Braking Aids & you need to have the handbrake on a little bit to help reduce speed to stop the front tyres locking as you used to have to do trialing early LR's.

 

george

Cheers Yeti_Man

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/194800-some-off-roading-in-beti

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/162735-when-using-hill-decent-control-off-road

 

Certainly a display of the Yeti ability to ford puddles as long as they are not too deep.

 

george

What a wonderfully engaging thread, on my second box of tissues. I am almost too scared to ask, but what on earth is a "Jimny".

A Suzuki Jimny.

 a small rather inexpensive 3 door car, been available in the UK from 1998 until now.

(Suzuki copied the wheelbase & dimensions of the early Land Rovers)

 

Identical Body in the metal from the start of production until now,

only changes to the External & Internal Plastics, some tarting up of the interiors 

and various Engines Gearboxes over the past 16 years.

Basically Rear Wheel Drive with a short wheel base, & Selected AWD when suitable to be used.

No Centre Differential, Coil Sprung, and Solid Axles, open diffs. 

1298-1328 cc petrols, never sold in the UK as a 1.5 Diesel.

Gonephishing has obviously mistaken this for the monty python sketch and is determined to have his "full half hour" of argument.

The premise is stupid as the Yeti neither is nor purports to be an "off roader" it is a soft roader that is a small SUV with some off road ability. I'd suggest george should get a Haflinger or a Pinzgauer and stick it where the sun don't shine.

The jimny arose from the SJ410/413 whuich used to be made with a 2 stroke triple engine.

Which copied the wheelbase & dimesions of the first Landrovers & were on Leaf Springs.

Not me that raised the subject of Jimny's except to remind Graham who i was, or even wanted to talk about them.

 

Some are rather rude on here,

Yetis and their merits seem to take a back seat to putting down posters..

Quite a talent for blowing gas out where the sun does not shine i see.

OFGS!

Sums up this thread quite well I think...!

Not getting involved in this one chaps.

 

However, and just being curious, can I ask gonephising why he lists his location as Skocia (Hungarian for Scotland), unless he is of course Hungarian himself, in which case maybe I could understand. 

 

In some defense of the Jimny, I (or should I say the wife), has owned two in the past, and they are a cracking little car off road, as I used to "borrow" it to do proper off road trials in the 90's. However, it is not so good on the tarmac, and in no way can you it be compared to the comfort and all round ability of a Yeti. Totally overpriced now at £12k for a new one.

 

Over and out!

Really Off Topic now.

Gonephising had his computer hacked just recently and lost passwords etc, and bank accounts attempted to be got at.

Virus Emails sent to my contacts etc.

Skocia, i was on a keyboard in Hungaria so suits me.

 

I never compared Jimny's with Yetis.

I bought a new Jimny Automatic in 2003 & full Price would have been over £10,000.

25,000 miles on it and i could still sell it for £3,500.

My 1999 one is in as good condition as the 2003, rust free. Horses for courses, light weight works.

 

VAG Haldex equipped vehicles including the Yeti are quite good for towing things being used Off road,

just as long as they are light ones IMO.

So i will leave you to it, any more personal questions or just noseyness, just PM please.

 

I am all Yetied out,

Its a bit like Skoda Dealers and Yetis on this forum,

not able to see past the Brochure.  & then sometimes not reading what is written with any accuracy.

I see no driver skills involved in that clip. The opposite in fact!

 

well, I completely disagree here. If the driver relied only on electronics he'd fail.

Thanks for manipulating the steering wheel he helped the system and finally made it.

Strange thread.

 

No one would think the Yeti is an off-roader, has recovery points, that the under body kit is little more than thin composite/plastic trays to stop gravel rash - or any other Defender/off-roady stuff.

 

I'm also a MSA radio operator, on Goodyear 4seasons for WRGB last year, do a fair mileage on gravel roads - but I have a Suzuki SJ413 with Swift GTi engine, lockable rear diff, skid plates underneath, HIF SU, Janspeed 4/2/1 exhaust, rear disc brakes, winch, dual batteries, no rust etc.

 

I think of the Yeti as a shopping car with 4wd capabilities for use in bad weather/muddy fields, and my trusty SJ for use for some of the more extreme cross country terrain I come across as I'm setting out MSA British Cross Country Championship courses.

 

As said - horses for courses - I don't see the point of your questions :think:

 

 

but I have a Suzuki SJ413 with Swift GTi engine, lockable rear diff, skid plates underneath, HIF SU, Janspeed 4/2/1 exhaust, rear disc brakes, winch, dual batteries, no rust etc.

 

 

 

Interesting, as never come across another SJ with a Swift GTi engine.

 

I had a new SJ413 (Samurai) back in 1988 (well the wife did).

 

I was well into modified cars at the time, and fitted an Allard Turbo/Intercooler/water injection to the SJ, then later fitted a Swift GTi engine, replaced the injectors with twin dual choke Mikuni carbs and a NOS kit (and lots more besides). Then purchased a new SJ413 van (very rare then and almost extinct now), and fitted a supercharger to that - great fun at the time. 

 

Bullet proof engines, and you could do almost any mechanical tinkering with 10/12/13mm spanners if I recall.

 

Did you buy the SJ with GTi engine already fitted? 

Interesting, as never come across another SJ with a Swift GTi engine.

 

I had a new SJ413 (Samurai) back in 1988 (well the wife did).

 

I was well into modified cars at the time, and fitted an Allard Turbo/Intercooler/water injection to the SJ, then later fitted a Swift GTi engine, replaced the injectors with twin dual choke Mikuni carbs and a NOS kit (and lots more besides). Then purchased a new SJ413 van (very rare then and almost extinct now), and fitted a supercharger to that - great fun at the time. 

 

Bullet proof engines, and you could do almost any mechanical tinkering with 10/12/13mm spanners if I recall.

 

Did you buy the SJ with GTi engine already fitted? 

 

No. My son bought it in 1994 after leaving Uni, but then wanted a Metro GTA. I took it over for some strange reason, and started green laning. 

After the fall out from the NERC Act, I gave up green laning in 2007.

 

However, in 2004 I bought an emission failure block, 1 year old from a Swift GTI from Japan for £200. I plonked the re-furbed 8v head on and have run it like this for the last 10 years. 70/80k later this January I decided to strip it down. All the bearings were within OEM spec for clearance, the bores were less than 2 thou worn. The oil pump was within OEM spec. Very little carbon - looked nearly new inside.  However it had overheated due  to a relay failure on the cooling fan a couple of years ago, and compression on 2 cylinders was down.

New exhaust valves guides, slight skim to the head, cleaned up the un-marked 16v pistons with a new ring set, new OEM big end and crank side thrust shells, all seals/ O rings replaced, all bolt on bits black enamelled etc.

Hopefully it will last another 10 years - probably longer than I'm good for

It gets a hard life, Blackpool for NW Stages, one of our events in Scotland, rally car testing at Walters Arens most weeks and the BCCC series of 6, 2 day events of cross country racing.

 

ps: it's a D reg Japanese car, not a Spanish one, which had a bad reputation

Thanks.

 

I am getting those urges again!

 

:evil:  :evil:

Would modifying something newer not help those urges?

Come on children enough of this squabbling.   Buy the Yeti that suits your purpose and ENJOY it. If you find you've made a mistake get over it!

If you don't I'll tell my big brother and he'll come and get you.

 

Fred 

as we see here haldex can take you same places as off-roader montero can   

 

And??

All I see is 2 loons at the start, and then roads I drove such as I drove a Matiz over in Crete

Why i asked if anyone used a Yeti Offroad and what they do for Recovery points, 

because when you get stuck which you might you need a Bridle attached to reduce the risk of damage you can easily get using that single point for recovery other than a straight pull.

 

Just like with Freelanders and so many other SUV Soft roaders with front Crumple Zones you can put the front out of line,

bend the front legs etc.

Lots of cars like that about,

& a rear tow ball is not suitable for snatch recoveries.

Gentle towing is maybe fine, but if you are stuck, gentle towing might not do the job.

may I asked more experience drivers here in using haldex equipped cars what is really going on at 2:25 on this video?

Author claims that car has trouble because it doesn't have off road button hence EDL didn't kicked in,  but I read on this form

this button is added mostly for convenience for inexperience drivers, I read this on Graham's thread I believe somewhere.

SO why EDL didn't work in that case?

 

Edited 22 March, 201412 yr by tigi

How about you answer our questions, Tigi, before we answer yours, especially as these have been asked of you several times in this and other threads here?
Why are you posting videos of Tiguans?

What off road experience do you have?
What training have you received, and who from and in what vehicles?
What mechanical engineering qualifications do you have?
What vehicle do you currently drive?
What country do you live in?