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Hi.

 

I'm thinking of getting a Citigo Elegance with the Greentech engine and some places says it will only get 40mpg in the real world. Obviously I'm not expecting to get 68mpg but 40 seems very low for this sort of car.

 

I might be getting a job in a different city so I would be doing about 45 miles each day on mostly NSL roads and then some lovely stop start rush hour traffic.  

So, I'm wondering what sort of MPG I'd be looking at?

I would get something more suitable for this sort of commute but I'm 20 looking at a first car so the price is important, looking at finance. 

 

I would have gone into the introduce yourself area but I think this is better asked here.

I apologise in advance if this is a question that is asked regularly.

 

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Go buy yourself something like a fiesta 1.4 diesel for about £2k enjoy 50+mpg and spend the rest of the money you save off a finance deal, living a little.

We buy up little fiesta vans 1.4 diesels and literally run them into the ground we are getting almost 100% reliability from vehicles as old as 54 plates and getting well into the 100,000miles and even with heavy footed engineers in excess of very high 40's mpg out of them.

By the way welcome to the forum :)

And swmbo gets low 50's all the time out of her Citigo and hers does not have stop/start.

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Regularly get 55 + on short rural runs, maybe a little less round town. 70 quite easily achievable on 20 mile motorway run. Traffic obviously doesn't help economy but the greentech system is quite efficient.

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I do 26 miles per day, consisting of 22 miles of motorway and A roads, the rest is the town road onto the motorway. Attached is my Fuelly graph which I've been using since I bought it in October - I always fill up to the brim so I can use Fuelly.

 

The latest improvement is probably due to two recent 50-mile motorway runs combined with using Shell V-Power for the previous two fills, and the much warmer weather.

 

Note that the first thing I do when I start driving is turn off stop-start... If I reach traffic lights where I know I'll be stopped for 30secs+, then I turn it on. I also accelerate fairly slowly (annoying every other driver) and use engine braking whenever possible, especially when approaching traffic lights which I know will turn red (again, this annoys other drivers... sorry).

 

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Brand new car for under a hundred pounds a month, free servicing and warranty cover

I cant see why people would gamble on old cars anymore to be honest (sorry defenderben)

You will see far more than 40mpg, more like 55

Great cars and great engines

Best of luck

Damo

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Thanks for the help. I'm more than happy with 50+.

I have the massive help of my dad offering to pay the deposit, so the £2k Fiesta diesel isn't the best option.

I would rather have a car that I can trust not to break down and if anything were to go wrong it's under warranty.  

I plan to go the Skoda dealer on Thursday to have a closer look, the local Skoda dealer is joined with Seat so I will see what they offer too, I prefer the Citigo to the Mii though.
Went to VW to look at the Up! but felt as though I wasn't welcome, left soon after. Been to a few dealers and they've all been fantastic, Volkswagen seems to think they sell Ferraris. 

 

I did not know about free servicing, that makes it even better.

I've still got to get this job for this plan to work.

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No worry, just the old man in me comes out.

My daughter has run our old fiesta on a 52 plate for the last 4 years with £120 per annum service and an annual family AA membership and she drives all over the country doing around 25k miles a year. She has now literally saved the deposit for her first house instead of wasting it on finance on a depreciating piece of tin ;)

Best of luck with the job.

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@defenderben I can see your point of view, my first car was a mk 2 escort with more rust than paint, but I wasnt bothered, all I cared about was I was on the road

Different story with the younglings of today, the iphone generation. They want new shiny things.

Well done your daughter for saving the house deposit, wise little owl you have there

Just personally I think the total outlay of £99 a month for a brand new car is fantastic... couple that with the free servicing and warranty, plus no mot surprises I can only see the positives.

If it was £299 for an Audi etc. then I would definitely be on your wavelength with the older motor

Anyway, to the OP, let us know how you go on and good luck

Damo

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I posted this in another thread re higher octane fuel.

 

 

"Mine purrs along on Asda unleaded.

 

I connected the PID in the car last week, I don't use it enough and it needed charging. The display after exactly 40 miles of mixed driving, mainly short stop/start type trips and one longer trip of 15 miles returned 60 mpg.

 

You don't really need a higher octane fuel."

 

 

As you can see mine easily does 60 mpg, don't forget though that the PID will be telling you it's doing slightly more than it actually is. My reckoning it's around 7-10% out so your looking at around mid 50s in the real world, which is still good going without really trying to be economical.

One other factor for accessing fuel consumption, allow for new engines to bed/run in before acheiving better MPG. Mine has got better now it's got 11k under it's belt.

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The reason I'm looking at a new car is because I'll possibly be doing quite a high mileage I want to know that the car will get me there. Until now I've been looking at old, cheap cars. 

 

It was What Car that said 40mpg on their true MPG calculator, looking again though it actually said 45.

I will try and drive economically but  if the Citigo is as fun to drive as it's meant to be that may be tricky. 

I will keep you updated. and thanks for the good luck wishes. 

 

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Here's real world economy. my car is used for driving lessons and my average is almost 57mpg click on the fuelly badge below to see my results. i have a 60PS greentech and have the stop/start system active all the time.

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That's great. I imagine your car doesn't have an easy life either. That Fuelly website is great by the way, glad I've seen it.
I thought that true mpg figure was low. 

A bit off topic but the first car I learnt to drive in (Hyundai i30) had a stop start system and when I first stopped and the engine cut out I thought I'd broke it, apparently my face was a picture. Imagine my face a few lessons later when I set off and there was a massive bang that seemed to come from the clutch, the instructor told me not to worry. 

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I've been meaning to post something about fuel consumption for a while. Our 60 greentech has averaged 47mpg in it's first 2000 miles. Significantly less than everyone else seems to get. Admittedly I do have a heavy right foot and my regular commute does include about 5 miles of duel carriage way with at least 5 roundabouts on it - that's probably not the best for fuel consumption. Having said that I've heard other people say they drive theirs like the stole them and get late 50s mpg.

It's still significantly higher than we got with our old corsa, so I'm still pleased, but can't say I'm not a little gealous / worried by the figures everyone else seems to get.

I'll be interested to see how it changes on next tank full now my wife is driving it mostly. Having said that I've tried driving as economically as I can and pid has said the trip average is only 52 at best.

Also was wondering anyone's experience with cruise control, how does that effect mpg, as I use it quite a lot (before you ask we live in a very flat area so the engine is not being strained trying to go up hills in the wrong gear).

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On my last fill up I was getting 49mpg and the one before that I got 47mpg, I think (well I hope) this is because I have Thule roof bars on my car all the time and one bike carrier, I also have new Wolf race Alloys which are wider that the Skoda alloys.

I'll be removing the bike carrier to see how much of a different that makes and update here when I have the results. 

 

(My daily commute is about 20 miles- about 13 motorway 7 urban)

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Last brim to brim on my wifes 75 greentec was 53mpg.

Thats a lot of round town from cold.

When new we got 64 mpg pottering around yorkshire with some 70mph motorway.

It's still got less than 1000 miles on it so that's on only 2 times we've filled it up in 3 months.

I always use the cruise control by the way and don't hang about.. :notme:

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I think it'll be safe to say it does more mpg than most other cars of a similar size and performance for the same journeys - wifey's will probably only do high 30's when she's pootling locally (a mile here, a mile there) doing shopping and doctors runs for the MIL.  We take it for a run 20-odd miles up the road at the weekend, and maybe a bit of local work (10 miles or so) and it usually sits between 55 and 60mpg on those runs.  I'm not driving like Miss Daisy either, and ours is an ASG as well.

 

As a result, it normally gets between 320 and 400 miles from a tankful - well, about 30-32 litres, depending on the traffic.  As to mh's expected journey, I'd expect you'll see real life low-mid 50's to a gallon.  Wifey's car gets the current accumulating discount at Tesco, so normally 10p a litre off.  She's had a short fill the last couple of months to make the most of the discount, rather than lose it.

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High 40's all the time and mine gets a hard life, Short jourenys since changing office and over 80 speed bumps a day (so alot of slowing and speeding up). On friday I got 81.6mpg (PID reading) which I was happy with.

 

So to sum it up driven hard and short journey's high 40's, driven well and longer journey upto 81.6 (PID figures).

 

The car it replaced was a Fiat 500 Twinair. And longer journey's less stop start traffic and that averaged 35-38mpg(at best).......so all in I'm happy with the Citigo.

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Just checked my figures on my fuelio app (android) and it seems 57mpg is my base line over 11,000 miles. But its started to increase significantly the passed few months with a 65mpg on the last run.

I can narrow it down to a few things.

Switching to sainsburys fuel (new station took over from total locally and darned cheap)

school holidays = less traffic

more concerted effort to drive smoothly.

a few blips and overtakes and the high end mpg's do fall off quickly!

as per a previous post, some slow accelerates, engine breaking and well timed judging off light changes to avoid standing starts all add a good 10mpg from a less planned driving style.

Also, due to the enormous grip, you can benefit from steady speeds on the straight, and high speeds on roundabouts! :) keep it in 5th and hang on!

better driving planning really helps any car mpg. ( and planing further into the distance reduces chances of accidents)

a few hours with any IAM trainer will pass on a host of benefits for very little cost if mpg and safety matter.

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a few hours with any IAM trainer will pass on a host of benefits for very little cost if mpg and safety matter.

Former IAM (and RoADA) trainer here. I drive smoothly and economically and regularly see over 60mpg on the PID, but my Fuelly average is 54.

City driving is more like mid 40s. This is with the 75 PS non-BMT Up.

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Again thanks for the advice. 

I didn't think the Citigo had cruise contol, can't see it on the options or the images, I seem to remember it's on the indicator stalk on VAG products. 

As for the IAM idea I think my local council is doing free IAM courses at the moment, I have to provide the car so if I get it I might do that. 

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Cruise control is an option (which i wish i had!) along with reversing sensors, i think, for about £300 ish. If you are planning to do a lot of motorway miles id personally consider it.

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The only time ive got into the 40s  i was driving at speeds that would be very illegal in the UK (but not on the autobahn ;)  ) When i first got it i avereaged 53 with a heavy foot but now i tend to get between 58-61 with a PB of 69mpg.

 

Fuel economy is the one thing id not worry about with a citigo!

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