How just how? 

 

(Note - can't left foot brake as I also drive a manual - and I ain't that clever!)

Almost impossible to be honest. Its the only time i dont like driving my mums passat.

Treat it like a manual, so with handbrake applied and foot on footbrake select reverse. Take foot off footbrake, this will engage the clutch, now release handbrake, apply a little throttle and the car will go backwards without creeping forward at all.

The clutch will not engage until you release the footbrake, so using two feet will not work.

Once you get used to the DSG you'll soon master the technique of coming off the footbrake and onto the throttle without using the handbrake.

As above

Treat it like a manual, so with handbrake applied and foot on footbrake select reverse. Take foot off footbrake, this will engage the clutch, now release handbrake, apply a little throttle and the car will go backwards without creeping forward at all.

The clutch will not engage until you release the footbrake, so using two feet will not work.

Once you get used to the DSG you'll soon master the technique of coming off the footbrake and onto the throttle without using the handbrake.

I think you are missing my point - that's a hill start effectively which I don't even think about.  But reversing up a 1in 4 hill into a parking space or up a restricted length drive is a whole different kettle of fish.  You need about 3000 rpm to move at all - and then you find yourself travelling backwards rather quicker than you want.  On the level you can rely on the creep to move short distances when parking but on a steep hill.............

 

In a manual car you can rev to whatever engine speed you chooses and feather the clutch - which gives hugely more control than the accelerator does!

 

I had the new tail light assembly fitted today - £165! 

Edited 8 August, 201411 yr by Mph25

It is possible.

 

Just have a practice with being nice and light on the throttle. Just enough to get it going but not too much so that it shoots back.

 

Phil

It's not only possible - it's not that difficult. Find an empty hill, have a go (see post #3) and you'll wonder what all the fuss was about.

As mentioned above treat it like a manual rather than a classic auto. It took me a few days to get used to reversing the car off our drive when we first got it (our drive is steep) i read a thread on a VW forum that discussed it and after that I have no probs reversing from a standing start up and off of our drive.

As mentioned from a standing start put it into reverse and wait for it to get biting point before then releasing the handbrake and giving some throttle as you release the handbrake and you should be reversing ok.

It is something you need to practice a few times to get the desired results but as I say after a couple of tries with this technique ive never had any issues since.

And bear in mind I'm in Sheffield so we do have a few steep hills.

Cheers

Dave.

I had a DSG superb for 2 years (30K miles) and never had a problem reversing up steep inclines by doing as I posted in number 3.

It is possible.

 

Just have a practice with being nice and light on the throttle. Just enough to get it going but not too much so that it shoots back.

 

Phil

I think on a modest hill that may be so. When the hill is really steep - you gave to give it some welly and get it slightly wrong and it's not easy to control the speed. Even in a manual it was tricky on the drive I had problems on - and I've over 50 years driving experience!

I think on a modest hill that may be so. When the hill is really steep - you gave to give it some welly and get it slightly wrong and it's not easy to control the speed. Even in a manual it was tricky on the drive I had problems on - and I've over 50 years driving experience!

The section of our driveway i park my car on is about the length of the Superb and elevates by around one metre so is pretty steep and like myself and Mannyo have said using our technique (which is what VW say to do) i have no issues reversing up it from a standstill.

I've also had to do many hill starts on some of Sheffield's steepest hills both in drive and reverse and again once you have adapted to driving a DSG no problems at all. These are hills that in my previous Lexus IS auto I would just go straight off foot brake to throttle like any classic auto. But in the DSG you have to treat it as you would a manual in that you engage gear and wait till you feel it engage the clutch etc.... Before then taking the handbrake off.

Cheers

Dave.

Practice, practice and...more practice...then do it with closed eyes

Where I live, the town centre has angle parking front in and many of the parking spots are inclined toward the gutter.  I have a dreadful time reversing out as a gap appears in traffic. The pause as the gear engages after taking foot of the brake is a problem as I try to get into the traffic lane again.  But theñ I have only been dealing with this Skoda trait for 4 years or so. Maybe soon I'll have it!!  

Where I live, the town centre has angle parking front in and many of the parking spots are inclined toward the gutter.  I have a dreadful time reversing out as a gap appears in traffic. The pause as the gear engages after taking foot of the brake is a problem as I try to get into the traffic lane again.  But theñ I have only been dealing with this Skoda trait for 4 years or so. Maybe soon I'll have it!!  

But with a DSG you shouldn't be driving in the same way as an auto.... Which you appear to be doing.... Read my own and Mannyo's posts above and try that technique.... Hey presto no more struggling to reverse up an incline.

Cheers

Dave.

Actually starting and driving up an incline is as you say no problem - except when the car behind you is only 12 inches away and you are trying to control the speed at the same time as using a lot of throttle because of the steepness of the incline. Ordinary hill starts in forward or reverse are indeed just like with a manual - but controlling the speed without the moderating influence and instant effect of a feathered clutch is very different. IMHO of course!

Edited 9 August, 201411 yr by Mph25

Goodness only knows what it is like for a car with electronic handbrake! I find that the hill hold in my Saab (AKA torque converter lol) works very well for me. If/when I graduate to my wish-list Superb II estate I will see how it goes. (it will be DSG)

If I do eventually get one (OH rules the bank and roost) I don't expect any issues while reversing with the caravan on, as some 'vanners have reported on the forums, as I have a mover on the 'van and just unhitch at site and let the mover do all the work.

Love the Briskoda forum BTW - loads of very useful info on here.

Slightly OT, anyone clocked some of the images on Google of the original Superbs of the '30s and '40s? A bit american but lovely lookers. AND - 4-wheel drive and big V-eights!! However, check out the camber on the rear wheels - reminds me of our 1964 Octy we had in Cyprus......

Pete

Edited 9 August, 201411 yr by Petemate

My road is quite a steep hill and out of habit I always park 'nose down' and reverse in. My car doesn't have hill assist and due to a rugby accident I can only use one leg anyway.  A bit of delicate throttle control and one hand on the handbrake is how I've always done it.

 

As pointed out, it would be almost impossible, or at least a massive PITA with an electronic handbrake, which I why I think they are stupid and I'm glad Skoda hasn't fitted one to the Superb (yet)...... 

As pointed out, it would be almost impossible, or at least a massive PITA with an electronic handbrake, which I why I think they are stupid and I'm glad Skoda hasn't fitted one to the Superb (yet)...... 

 

And (if I do eventually manage to get one) I am also glad the Superb has a good old 'proper' handbrake.

Pete

Where I live, the town centre has angle parking front in and many of the parking spots are inclined toward the gutter.  I have a dreadful time reversing out as a gap appears in traffic. The pause as the gear engages after taking foot of the brake is a problem as I try to get into the traffic lane again.  But theñ I have only been dealing with this Skoda trait for 4 years or so. Maybe soon I'll have it!!  

 

The key to this is that the footbrake disengages the clutch, but the handbrake doesn't.  So you won't have that hiatus if you use the handbrake;  the clutch will go to the bite point when you release the footbrake, hand brake still on, bring up revs as necessary while controlling handbrake pressure with lever. 

 

To the OP's question though, that doesn't really solve the close manoeuvring problem, when on a really steep slope. If you use enough gas to move, then you risk overshooting, and if you don't use enough, the clutch will release and you will roll back.   Delivery drivers are very familiar with this problem on automated manuals and it can be really difficult to get them onto transporters (and off, when the driving wheels are in the slots on the deck).  Described here:

 

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=101179&v=t&m=1093176

 

 

A simple hill start is easy with either HHC or handbrake.

 

I think you have highlighted a non-obvious problem with DSG - that it is more or less possible to drive it like a conventional auto, but there are particular circumstances where that doesn't work well or heats up the clutch - HHC is better than handbrake for hillstarts, as it gradually releases brake pressure as the accelerator is pressed and the clutch takes up.

 

There must be many people coming from conventional autos who don't get the advice they probably should.  

 

The handbook isn't especially helpful - all it says is that you should not hold the car on a hill using the accelerator.  That is essentially what you are doing trying to parallel park backwards into a tight space on a steep hill, so frankly it's best avoided if you want to preserve the clutch even if you can avoid smashing into the adjacent car.

I know what you mean about trying to feather the accelerator pedal when going into reverse it isn't the easiest!

 

To the OP's question though, that doesn't really solve the close manoeuvring problem, when on a really steep slope. If you use enough gas to move, then you risk overshooting

 

Precisely!

 

Hence the rear tail light replacement bill!  (I accept - I didn't actually know the wheely bin had been moved to that place  - but I would have only touched it with more control)

I had the new tail light assembly fitted today - £165!

Never mind the hill, £165 for a tail light?? That is steep!!

Mine was £26 when I put my roof bars through it last year. That is delivered and fitted myself.

According to the garage (I don't do that sort of thing myself) the tail light was £142 (the facelift one is quite a bit more expensive than the 2013 version) plus £50 for fitting - but they said they would do it for £165 all in. I checked with Bickerton Skoda online who did the previous version for £85, reduced from £100 but they didn't quote the FL version.

But I thought it was ruddy expensive too!

Duplicated post. Grr!

Edited 10 August, 201411 yr by Mph25

Sorry to dig up an old post but i just thought it might be relevant for you Mph25.....

 

Having had the Hill Hold Control and XDS enabled on mine yesterday by a fellow member with VCDS at the South Yorkshire meet i can only praise how the HHC system works and suggest you have a quick look on the VCDS owners map for someone in your area and get it enabled on your car.

 

I didn't really have any issues reversing up hills anyway as per my previous posts but with the HHC the car is held perfectly whilst you get biting point and you just reverse as though you are on the flat.

 

Also great when stood in traffic on steep uphill inclines... Take your foot off the footbrake and then as soon as the car feels you have started throttling up it releases the brakes and away you go.