My VRS is 14 months old now and has 12k on the clock.  Personally as Oil is such a big thing on these engines i was hoping to change to fixed.  i checked my oil yesterday and its similar to diesel oil in  thick black treacle.  Me personally i prefer low milage oil changes, on my civics i changed the oil and filter every 5000 miles max.  

 

So can i change it back to fixed servicing as i think i will be keeping this car for quite a while as i really like it that much  ( Milltek goes on tomorrow morning too....lol)

 

whats the score, anyone done this as i don;t want to wait another 8000 miles for a service.

 

 

There is nothing to do.

Just get your car serviced every 10,000 miles instead of waiting to 18,000 - 19,000  & zero the Service Indicator.

Keep using vw 504 00 5w 30

 

There really is no need to change the oil at 5,000 mile intervals though, unless you really want.

Maybe leave the oil to 10,000 miles and change the filter every 5,000 miles.

 

It is up to you how often you service or Do Oil & Filter Services.

Just do not go longer between them than the Manufacturers Guidelines / Service Schedule.

Edited 26 September, 201411 yr by goneoffSKi

on the civic there is as its a track car mate, so majority of its miles are hard 

 

But i still stand my the low miles on the oil.  On track the fabia got has high as 129c thats about 20c more than the civic hence why the fabia oil is like treacle.

 

anyway, booked in at skoda dealer for oil change tuesday and they are changing it to fixed service for me.

That is a totally different matter.

 

If you know that is how the car is used, buy performance oil and maybe change it every 3,000 miles.

 

No point tracking it with Long Life Castrol or Quantum 5w 30 or heavens forbid 5w 40.

 

Can you not do your own Oil Changes in between Service Schedules.??

 

No idea what you mean by changing it to fixed servicing for you.

Do you mean the Indicator will be changed.

Be sure your 'Oil Temp' reading does not disapear,

it does when some Workshops change Variable to Fixed on the Twinchargers,

 

Be sure they do not change to 9,400 mile oil changes and stick in cheaper 5w 40 Full Synthetic.

Edited 26 September, 201411 yr by goneoffSKi

can i sort the oil temp issue wih vagcom if it does disappear as i like that and is what the car is usually left on.

If the technician gets it wrong, then yes just sort it out.

 

? Are you providing the Oil & some decent stuff,

or just having them put in the same as turned to Think Black Treacle?

If the technician gets it wrong, then yes just sort it out.

 

? Are you providing the Oil & some decent stuff,

or just having them put in the same as turned to Think Black Treacle?

 

normal castrol, stuff for the skoda

 

in the civic i use Fuchs titan race oil and a proper HEMP filter ( HEMP is Honda's own uprated gear) 

I just take mine in every 10k, and say I want 10k servicing instead of variable.... first time they turned it off and I lost my oil temp reading, but I got them to turn it back on to variable... but I just take it in every 10k. they are happy with that... I have already changed my brake fluid and plugs (28k now) and marked that down in the book, so they dont need changing as per skoda  timetable...

........brake fluid should be changed every 2 years regardless of mileage ,not sure about plugs but 28k sounds too little,anyone to correct me??

The Skoda Service Schedule on the Fabia Mk2 is for the First Brake fluid change is at 3 years then each 2 years.

(Obviously you can do sooner if you want, or check the h20 level in the fluid.)

 

the 1.4 TSI 132-136 kw Service Schedule for Spark Plugs being replaced is @ 40,000 Miles.

But quite a few Engines need the plugs checked and replaced long before that, and the Plug in one particular cylinder might not reach 25,000 miles.

Edited 27 September, 201411 yr by goneoffSKi

........brake fluid should be changed every 2 years regardless of mileage ,not sure about plugs but 28k sounds too little,anyone to correct me??

my car is only 18 months old.... it ate the plugs and they were done under warrenty.... they will be changed again at the 30k service with some BRK7's the brake fluid I did because the OE stuff was boiling on the track... this has cured its issues.... all WAY before they were due

****s have changed to fixed and despite asking and being assured i would not lose oil temp, its now just sitting with  line through it all the time, why to garges never ever decking listen

Edited 1 October, 201411 yr by Ant FR

just get them to change it back..... should only take a minute.... or anyone you know with a laptop and the appropriate software!

If you fit the miltek ... I think you have just waved goodbye to your warranty on your engine?

129 degrees is not hot for synthetic oil , they are designed for much more than that ! Le Man 24/hr cars run higher than that for the duration of the race and oils have to withstand 150 degrees for 100 hours under testing 

 

I'm not saying that its not a good idea not to up the change frequency on track driven cars I think you should inspect the car throuroughly before and after taking on track but you are not going to "cook" or damage the oil by getting it to 129 degrees .

But for the same cost as that oil that was running and reaching 129*oC Indicated, 

you can buy a better performance oil that might only be reaching 119*oC and then going lower quicker when not under load.

 

Fully Synthetic 5w 30 Castrol Edge might well be tested and can sustain high temperatures, but it is a Jack of All Trades oil.

Might do not damage, 

but then Running Cooler can be a good idea.

 

Weak Link for reliability and longevity in a 177 - 210 BHP if remapped 1.4 Twincharger can be a pretty rubbish oil filter and mediocre Oil,

Mediocre Spark Plugs and Fuel less then 98 RON.

lower does not equal better

We know that.

The most obvious reason that hotter is not better in this case, being the Heat Soak and the reduction of power from that when somebody is tracking it.

 

So in this case it does matter about being able to run cooler coolant / oil,  well IMO.

if you disagree then thats fine.

and the Castrol Edge is a rather expensive way to buy a rather average oil.

 

Reducing Temperature takes energy to do,

so if it is not so high in the first place, you are using less energy to reduce it.

 

& when you come to a stop with many engines, for the sake of Heads, Gaskets etc,

it is better to start cooling a cooler engine, that is cooler Coolant and Oil which is a Coolant as well..

Especially in a 1390 CC Engine with only a Maximum Oil Capacity of 3.6 Litres of what might be rubbish Oil.

Unless you put in the Oil yourself, or watched who did, you trust in others.

Edited 4 October, 201411 yr by goneoffSKi

I've got a lowly 69PS Reaction which has covered about 7500 miles in this past year and is not our main car.  We plan to keep it beyond its 5 yr warranty when it becomes our son's car.

 

2 dealers have given me conflicting advice re servicing.  The supplying dealer sent me a card and called me (via an agency) to arrange service whereas another dealer who has yet to see the car advised me it was on "variable" when given the reg.

 

The supplying dealer told me they could only tell if they checked for the appropriate oil sensor which is on "some of the cars".

 

I can't find the variable servicing code on the boot/service book sticker (maybe I'm looking for the wrong code), but is there any way I can get a definitive answer e.g. with VCDS?

<snip> Castrol Edge is a rather expensive way to buy a rather average oil. <snip>

I think that Skoda recommend Castrol Edge Professional for the Fabia VRS.

What oil would you recommend?

Incidentally, there is a useful Skoda video on checking oil level and replenishing if required HERE, it actually tells you the significance of dipstick areas A, B & C 

Edited 6 October, 201411 yr by SeaGoat

It is a shame that video has not the same information as in the Fabia Mk2 Owners Manual for the Fabia Face Lift from 2010.

Or just says, Some of our previous Publish Owners Manuals may be misleading.

It is a Good Guide in the video, but Differs from the Owners Manual.

 

The Skoda Fabia MK2 FL Manual, differs from the VW Polo Owners Manual for the Same Engines with Different wording due to Translation.

'Must' is a nice clear instruction, compare the written instructions in Skoda & VW Owners manuals 

for other use of words and see where the Translation alters the emphasis. 

'May',  and 'Should' have different meaning to many people.

 

It is good to check the Oil Cold. and you should get a consistent Reading.

 

Skoda tell you in the Owners Manual only the 44 Kw Engine should be checked cold.

**So that is the least powerful 1.2 engine with the lowest oil capacity only.**

The others when 'WARM'. *Page 168.*

VW tell you at 'Operating Temperature.'

 

Castrol Edge is the Recommended oil, for the Normal Road Use.

& it might well suit Performance Road Driving,

But the Subject of Track Use came up, and for that type of usage there lots of suitable Higher Performance oils.

 

I am Sure Skoda & Skoda Dealers would love you to buy 'Castrol Edge' from them,

Considering the Mark up & profit from what they charge.

VORSPRUNG DURCH TECHNIK

Sell them cars, & screw every penny / Euro you can out them after that.

 

..................

Worth noting that a 1.4 TSI Twincharger with the correct level of 3.6 Litres and the Dipstick showing in Area 'A',

can then use 2 ltres of Oil before the 'Yellow Warning Light', or Message comes on.

(Some might be 1.5 Litres Lower.)

So in some cases, greater than 50 % less than Capacity, before you get a 'Message', / Warning.  of the Need to Top Up.

& if you are only carrying 1 Litre of that Complimentary Oil from the Dealer / Skoda / Castrol,

you will need to go get some more to be back up with 3.6 Litres in.

Edited 6 October, 201411 yr by goneoffSKi

It is a shame that video has not the same information as in the Fabia Mk2 Owners Manual for the Fabia Face Lift from 2010.

Can you explain this?

What is the correct information for a current VRS?

Personally I don't care about the yellow warning light, I just want to understand how to read the dipstick and I would only ever read it with a cold engine.

I don't use my car on the track or thrash it on the road so all good.

I will buy Castrol Edge from Amazon and get the dealer to use that. I will then know what has gone in and will have paid the market rate for the oil. Job done.

When the car has a cold engine and stone cold oil and is parked on the flat, 

not yet been started,  dip the oil.

 

If the Oil is in Area A and not as high as the top Orange Blob there is enough oil in.

You can hardly go wrong checking that way.

 

Once you have driven the car and had the oil above 80*oC and parked on the flat.

Maybe dip the oil after about 4 minutes and see where it shows with a Hot Dip.

(Skoda in the Owners Manual say 'wait a FEW minutes'. *Very vague,* )

Page 167 Owners Manual.

 

That way you know what both levels show if you want to check oil during a trip.

But checking before a trip is by far the easiest and most constant and reliable way.

..................................

 

You should know what goes in when the Invoice says Quantum lll Long Life 5w 30 VW 504 00 Variable Servicing,

 or Quantum 5w 40   VW502 00, Only on Fixed Servicing.

(different prices and what many Dealerships use, its just the same as Castrol)

 

You only know what goes in when you do it, or when you watch the person doing it.

Providing your own oil guarantees nothing.

Obviously at a good honest Establishment with good honest employees you are sure they only do the right thing,

do the service and use the products you provide.  There are places that refuse to, 

and rightly so. They Guarantee Work, and there is Hooky Oil on sale Online.

(I was given Mobile 1 Oil by someone once, it turned out to be Fake, still in Unopened Bottles, just not Genuine.)

Only a few Toe Rags in Garages we will be told, but believe me,

someplaces the Customers oil never sees its way into their engines, but it might see its way into someones.

Edited 7 October, 201411 yr by goneoffSKi

I've got a lowly 69PS Reaction which has covered about 7500 miles in this past year and is not our main car.  We plan to keep it beyond its 5 yr warranty when it becomes our son's car.

 

2 dealers have given me conflicting advice re servicing.  The supplying dealer sent me a card and called me (via an agency) to arrange service whereas another dealer who has yet to see the car advised me it was on "variable" when given the reg.

 

The supplying dealer told me they could only tell if they checked for the appropriate oil sensor which is on "some of the cars".

 

I can't find the variable servicing code on the boot/service book sticker (maybe I'm looking for the wrong code), but is there any way I can get a definitive answer e.g. with VCDS?

Thanks for your answers.    Being 250 miles away from the car didn't help, but I ended up getting my son to take a photo of the sticker, and used the igorweb decoder (www.igorweb.org/equidec - I might as well be helpful).

 

I presume VCDS could confirm this and would allow a change to "fixed" if I get the oil changed at 10k.

It's weird - I bought mine when it was year old (from Parks of Hamilton) with 9,500 on the clock (Parks had just done the first service) - was told it was on variable but the service indicator came up after a year anyway (second service - had only done approx. 4,500 miles but I felt more comfortable getting an annual service in any event) - last year I changed to Henrys and they (rightly) switched it to fixed - the only downside is I have now lost the oil temperature on maxidot.

The car is going in for its fourth service next Wednesday - according to the Skoda website a major service on four years includes a spark plug change but I'm not sure if mileage also comes into play - the car has only done 22,600 (think according to what I've seen on here the spark plug change on a twin-charge is 40,000).