To get the most out of Iron X and the G3 Clay Mitt. Which way round would you use them?

Iron x and then the clay mitt iirc

Judging by the title " from behind "  

I de-tar with tardis, then iron x, then clay. Job's a good un!

I de-tar with tardis, then iron x, then clay. Job's a good un!

Spot on

Yep, the idea of the chemicals is to make the actual claying process a lot less work, and it does "work"

Cheers guys. Not had the time to do both before

Iron X is very laden with detergent too, so actually provides a good lubed up surface for claying in my experience.

Thanks car has got its service Tuesday and don't want to let their sponge monkeys near it

Just inform them of such

I know but needs its winter protection

Iron X is very laden with detergent too, so actually provides a good lubed up surface for claying in my experience.

?? Not sure I understand this ...You use the Iron X as a lubrication after applying it to remove contaminents?

I would ALWAYS pressure wash off before doing any claying ...Always

Chris, just because you ALWAYS do something a certain way, doesn't mean that there's not another way to do things too.  Current GYEON Iron Remover actually specifically states that you use it as a clay lube.

 

Jason has plenty of detailing experience and I am also interested in hearing about his technique as I personally also rinse off all decon chems before claying as you do.

 

But there is as they say more than one way to skin a cat.  I fear sometimes on here things can be made to seem more black and white than they are.

Chris, just because you ALWAYS do something a certain way, doesn't mean that there's not another way to do things too.  Current GYEON Iron Remover actually specifically states that you use it as a clay lube.

 

Jason has plenty of detailing experience and I am also interested in hearing about his technique as I personally also rinse off all decon chems before claying as you do.

 

But there is as they say more than one way to skin a cat.  I fear sometimes on here things can be made to seem more black and white than they are.

He isnt talking about Gyeon though is he Mark?

I have no experience of that product at all...perhaps its formulation is different

Iron X was the product he mentioned..one Ive used a lot in the past, not Gyeon.

l also have no doubt over his experience at all...I question what he said because it seemed to not make sense.

ie..Apply Iron X ...leave it to dissolve iron contaminents and then clay straight over it, using the Iron X complete with removed contaminents to clay the car

I stated that I would never do this.

OK...if it works then fine...But I would'nt do it..as you state you would'nt

I would hope that Jason will come back to the thread and clarify

I use Carpro TRix, spray on, agitate after dwelling with the microfiber side of the G3 mitt, then jet wash the car and use the clay side of the mitt after rinsing. It does say to agitate on the TRix instructions.

Chris, just because you ALWAYS do something a certain way, doesn't mean that there's not another way to do things too.  Current GYEON Iron Remover actually specifically states that you use it as a clay lube.

 

Jason has plenty of detailing experience and I am also interested in hearing about his technique as I personally also rinse off all decon chems before claying as you do.

 

But there is as they say more than one way to skin a cat.  I fear sometimes on here things can be made to seem more black and white than they are.

 

Interesting that you can use it that way, though personally I think the stink of the decon type products would probably put me off doing so.

Always done with a clean heavily water laden mitt. Chances are most is washed off car but I don't see the kind of tiny little dissolved bits iron x removes will do damage to just wash mitt off. At least not compared to snow foaming muck, or tardising tar lumps. hell on my own car I find using wash mitt on muck alone is fine as long as worst of it is pressure washered first.

Bit of research and Carpro even state that this is a valid use method for Iron X

 

From Avi himself

 

"This refer to our new clay bars we sell ,

any pH neutral lube will work with our clay bars, no need to spend money on special lube clays.
use the ironx or ironx Soapgel as the lube you can "kill two birds" in same time
remove irons and clay the surface.

i dont know about other clay bars!, should be ok as well i think."

 

Linky http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/archive/index.php/t-248244.html

 

interesting stuff, but the point on this being a smelly process are very valid for me.

Agree on the smell too

But I still see no benefit to using it as a 'lube' and will continue to wash off and use Car Shampoo as my lube

Bit of research and Carpro even state that this is a valid use method for Iron X

 

From Avi himself

 

"This refer to our new clay bars we sell ,

any pH neutral lube will work with our clay bars, no need to spend money on special lube clays.

use the ironx or ironx Soapgel as the lube you can "kill two birds" in same time

remove irons and clay the surface.

i dont know about other clay bars!, should be ok as well i think."

 

Linky http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/archive/index.php/t-248244.html

 

interesting stuff, but the point on this being a smelly process are very valid for me.

 Was going to say that on the instructions for my carpro clay towel is says use iron X. Will try this on my next outing. 2 birds with one stone springs to mind!

Dont forget to wear some latex gloves then

Dont forget to wear some latex gloves then

 

I pretty much always wear gloves when detailing these days.  It is not a hobby that is kind to the hands at all, even before you start claying with iron-x, but not something that ever gets discussed much.  I prefer the Black Mamba Nitrile over latex gloves as they hold up against chemicals better and I am yet to tear a pair mid-detail.

 

It's funny, I always thought people who used them for weekend warrior detailing duties were a bit wussy, but as soon as I started using them I couldn't imagine working without them.

I pretty much always wear gloves when detailing these days. It is not a hobby that is kind to the hands at all, even before you start claying with iron-x, but not something that ever gets discussed much. I prefer the Black Mamba Nitrile over latex gloves as they hold up against chemicals better and I am yet to tear a pair mid-detail.

It's funny, I always thought people who used them for weekend warrior detailing duties were a bit wussy, but as soon as I started using them I couldn't imagine working without them.

Very sound advice, & you're right, not enough people take precautions. I'm careful when spraying Tardis since I misted some in my eye on a windy day, wonder how many people wear safety glasses when spraying chemicals? I do now after a trip to A&E a while ago.

Edited 8 December, 201411 yr by NorthernMonkey

Very sound advice, & you're right, not enough people take precautions. I'm careful when spraying Tardis since I missed some in my eye on a windy day, wonder how many people wear safety glasses when spraying chemicals? I do now after a trip to A&E a while ago.

 

I actually wear glasses for my eyesight so get some protection but must admit I have never put safety glasses on although on occasions it could have been wise, that said I am extremely cautious of any breeze after noticing overspray from product had damaged the protective anti-glare coating on my specs.  Same goes for face mask for inhalation of polishes and in particular if working with SiO2 coatings.  I have left glass sealant on a sponge applicator before and it ate clean through it.  It is definitely worth taking these precautions.

One should always take precautions Mark