Looks good, still can't see it sub £40k tho even if it is prob £4-5k options makes it pricy again

All the latest press quotes are now looking at a £40k price.

I only put £500 of options on my R300 & still think its a well equipped car. So for me £40500 would be doable.

Close call between this and the RS3.

Make the RS3 saloon and decision made

Options are a personal thing so can understand that. Mine for the R were around the £4k

This will do me - covered by warranty and under £40k.Probably out perform , handle Audi RS3 and marginally cheaper as well.

 

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/spy-shots/volkswagen/vw-golf-r420-2015-why-volkswagen-is-readying-a-super-golf-gti/

Don't like the thought of not having a Manual option:http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volkswagen/golf/91531/vw-golf-r400-super-hatch-set-for-2016-release

Specialist tuner.

http://www.hgp-turbo.de/

http://www.hgp-turbo.de/vw-golf-vii-r.html

Edited 30 May, 201511 yr by vrskeith

Good torque for a 2.0 4 pot on this aftermarket tuned Golf R.

 

Interestingly the power and torque figures are similar to what GoAPR claim for a stage 3 GTX turbo kit on the 2.0 tsi.

That's their best kit for that engine and they make peak torque about 800rpm or so higher.

One of HGP Specials video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojmvvHAbjPA

For ca. £40k I think I'd rather have the 5 pot and the shiny interior, Actually, I'd rather have an Italian V6, even with the obligatory 15mpg. 

 

On a more serious note, how long before we have a 500bhp shopping trolley? All of this power wars stuff is fine, but when will they design caravans that can be towed up to 90mph? No amount of power will suffice on a bank holiday / half term, as I have just found out in the last week's worth of travelling over the UK. 

No amount of power will suffice on a bank holiday / half term, as I have just found out in the last week's worth of travelling over the UK.

A Sinclair C5 could have coped with some of the traffic we encountered on bank holiday Saturday :(

WTF - R 500 5 POT!  Oettinger :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvlw5c3bHVg

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_xcuC2Evrc

Edited 5 June, 201511 yr by vrskeith

WTF - R 500 5 POT!  Oettinger :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvlw5c3bHVg

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_xcuC2Evrc

 

That came out a few weeks ago.

2.5tfsi with a turbo swap to 500bhp and a VW racing intake.  Same as my Yeti.

 

Bet it's fun, I know mine is.  Good power delivery at 500bhp from the 2.5 5 pot engine and a great spread of torque too.

 

500R engine bay.

 

My Yeti's engine bay.

 

They were only about a month or so behind us.

That came out a few weeks ago.

2.5tfsi with a turbo swap to 500bhp and a VW racing intake.  Same as my Yeti.

 

Bet it's fun, I know mine is.  Good power delivery at 500bhp from the 2.5 5 pot engine and a great spread of torque too.

 

500R engine bay.

 

My Yeti's engine bay.

 

They were only about a month or so behind us.

Probably didn't want to spoil the RS3 launch!

Probably didn't want to spoil the RS3 launch!

 

Indeed.

 

Not exactly sure on the cost, but I heard it's something crazy like £100k+

Just looked.

150,000 euro plus.

 

Interestingly the development time is listed as 3.5 months before the show.

So we were well underway before they started.

Kind of nice we finished first so didn't "copy" them.

 

Also interesting they claim 500lb/ft of torque.

Not had mine on a RR, but we estimated 450-480.

Maybe that's why mine ate the Synchro for 2nd in the gearbox so quickly.

Indeed.

 

Not exactly sure on the cost, but I heard it's something crazy like £100k+

Guess that won't be far off the mark - cost or ex-works?

 

Oettinger's kits are pretty pricey ,just for the R300 > 400 conversion but are  quality. Think I posted one somewhere on the R Thread.

Indeed.

Not exactly sure on the cost, but I heard it's something crazy like £100k+

Not really a RS3 competitor then

Not really a RS3 competitor then

The R400 will do the business on the RS3 and will offer a manual option, as the icing on the cake as well as being cheaper I hope!

Not sure what price a "low volume production" R500 Oettinger would be?

Not really a Wiltshire country lane car, me thinks - Simples.

The R400 will do the business on the RS3 and will offer a manual option, as the icing on the cake as well as being cheaper I hope!

Not sure what price a "low volume production" R500 Oettinger would be?

Not really a Wiltshire country lane car, me thinks - Simples.

Having driven to Salisbury this afternoon, you don't need more than 80bhp to get anywhere in Wiltshire. I've never had such a tortuous A road journey.

Having driven to Salisbury this afternoon, you don't need more than 80bhp to get anywhere in Wiltshire. I've never had such a tortuous A road journey.

stever750,

Shame you stayed on A roads,there are plenty of good quick B roads if you know alternatives. You can even exploit some of your Leon's extra bhp and undoubted agility'

Was that A 303 Stonehenge area.

Guess it could be the same if I was venturing into your local turf, you would know places and bottlenecks to avoid.

Edited 7 June, 201511 yr by vrskeith

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Edited 7 June, 201511 yr by vrskeith

We followed the satnav into bath. Disaster, back out again to Corsham on the A4, the A350. It was painfully slow at times, pointless overtaking as there was miles of slow moving elderly drivers. Tomorrow I'm driving up to North Yorks. A 5am start means the A483 across mid Wales should be clear.

We followed the satnav into bath. Disaster, back out again to Corsham on the A4, the A350. It was painfully slow at times, pointless overtaking as there was miles of slow moving elderly drivers. Tomorrow I'm driving up to North Yorks. A 5am start means the A483 across mid Wales should be clear.

Steve,

Did you do Salisbury and Bath yesterday- Bath is a notorious traffic nightmare, especially on summer weekends and charge the earth for parking.

 

Have a better trip North - hope the uprated Leon Cupra is still performing well.

The R400 will do the business on the RS3 and will offer a manual option, as the icing on the cake as well as being cheaper I hope!

Not sure what price a "low volume production" R500 Oettinger would be?

Not really a Wiltshire country lane car, me thinks - Simples.

 

Do the business in what way?

Doing the Business for me Boss is :

 

Provided the R400 handles and drives in the same way as the R, has the Manual gearbox and comes in undercutting the RS3 on Prices (spec'd in a similar  level) 

 

Also delivering, (as the review attached suggest) that is to say offsetting the RS3 perceived negatives.(Autocar comments/ similar in Evo) "That the car also remains riveted to the ground and a doddle to dial into will be testimony enough of quattro GmBH’s skill for some - but we hoped there would be more here to savour.

Instead, the experience, including the dullard steering and grabby brakes, is mostly familiar. That the four-wheel powerslides experienced on ice proved a distant memory is hardly surprising, yet we’d hoped, even with the ESP in Sport mode, for a more engaging sense of the RS3 adjusting its line in accordance with throttle input.

Potentially, given the negligible wiggle of its hips on the odd exit, that may yet turn out still to be on tap. But not on track in this instance, with the car - or its minder - erring too often on the side of exasperating caution.

That leaves the jury technically still out, although it must be said that if you’re holding off on buying the model’s half sister, the Volkswagen Golf R, until you’ve heard the final verdict, I wouldn’t necessarily linger much longer.

Marginally slower and less characterful in the engine bay it may very well be, but the Volkswagen steers with more aplomb, levitates above the groundise missile, gets the standard manual gearbox the Audi doesn’t, and, crucially, doesn’t need the ESP turned off to show you a good time."

 

Overall performance figures quoted indicates it will out perform the RS3, along with the aforementioned driving /handling characteristics 

Quite honestly the 5 pot noise against the 4 pot, is a minor issue for me in my requirements list!  

 

I will conclude this by saying, I will let you know completely when I receive my RS3 test drive soon.

I hope it does too. Don't follow the blinkered press tho. Agenda is always present, and some cars suit some people better, doesn't mean the car is actually better

Dp

Edited 8 June, 201510 yr by kenny