Greetings All

 

I'm just  wondering if anyone can give me some advise?

 

I have a 2005 Octavia 4x4 estate. Today I had to break suddenly in the snow to avoid a car that pulled out.

 

Since then the ABS and traction control light are illuminated on the dash.

 

Has the ABS pump gone or is it something that will take time to go off?

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

 

Might just be a sensor. Don't think the 4x4 has the teves issue, not sure.

Might just be a sensor. Don't think the 4x4 has the teves issue, not sure.

It will likely have the mk60 teves ABS controller unfortunately. Mine does.

A fault code scan will be needed to shed further light on this.

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The 4x4 generally has the mk60 teves pump but with a different part number to the 2wd (2wd I believe has the ec1 part number on the end, my scout at least has a different suffix, can't remember what as not on PC) but not sure if this protects it from the common fault. I vaguely remember something on here once with a Scout that suffered the Mk60 issue.

This website has a list of commonly effected ABS pumps:

http://www.bba-reman.com/content.aspx?content=hints_and_tips#skoda

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Ah there you go then.

 

Sensor faults will generally clear below 30mph then reappear when you go faster.

 

If it's on all the time then might be something else. You'll need to get the codes scanned as said.

Hi 

 

Thanks, appreciate the replies. Unfortunately I lost the car in the snow so its in getting bodywork done and getting a scan too.

 

I read somewhere that an odd tyre size can bring both the traction control and abs lights on. I got a part wore tyre put on last week as I want to replace all 4 tyres at one. Sure enough the guy put on the wrong size.

 

Do you think this would have an impact on the faults I'm getting?

 

Marty

Not sure if the 4x4 is the same as 2wds but i had abs and traction control lights on after heavy braking was the abs speed ring that was the issue.

Not sure if the 4x4 is the same as 2wds but i had abs and traction control lights on after heavy braking was the abs speed ring that was the issue.

 

I wondered that as well but I think if the ABS ring has failed (which seems reasonable frequent on older cars as it gets corroded) the ABS, TCS and Tyre Pressure warning lights all come on whereas the OP has only mentioned the ABS and TCS lights, may be an omission though.  The fault scan should show the culprit, when the ABS sensor ring corroded on my car and lit up the ABS, TCS and Tyre pressure lights this fault was logged:

 

00290 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Rear Left (G46) 008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

00290 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Rear Left (G46) 003 - Mechanical Failure - Intermittent

 

When I told my mechanic he recognised it and reckoned it was the sensor ring that was the cause as he'd seen the same happen on a few other similar VW based cars.

 

I'd be surprised if the odd sized tyre would bring the TCS and ABS lights on, if anything I'd expect it to light up the tyre pressure warning light.  My understanding of the system (which may be incorrect) is that in each wheel there is an ABS sensor and a toothed ring, as the ring spins past the sensor it generates pulses allowing the system to measure and compare the speed of each wheel allowing it to work out what needs done with the ABS and TCS.  If the pulses are slightly different from one wheel compared to the others it guesses this may be caused by a change in tyre pressure and shows the tyre pressure warning light. 

 

John

I had the same ^

 

But I also had thr G201 fault at the same time to confuse things.

 

Sensor fault only will usually clear driving below 30mph then reappear as you speed up. As said on older cars it's usaully the magnetic ring in the hub which has rusted and a bit falls out giving the car an implausible signal.

 

If they're staying on all the time then it'll likely be some other error.

Thanks for all the replies.

 

Got it sorted out. Turned out to be nothing more than a fuse!

Hi guys,

 

first post on the forum.  I own an Octavia VRS 58 plate petrol and love it to bits.  It's a big step up from my old Ford Focus 1.8 petrol!  However I have a problem with the car, which Skoda are not willing to help with in terms of goodwill.  The problem is with the traction control system and comes up as the G201 fault.  Please see the response I got from Skoda below... 

 

Dear Mr Hughes

Further to our recent telephone conversation in relation to the above case, I wish to confirm our decision. I would also like to
apologise for the delay in my response.

I appreciate that your expectations of reliability and build quality are high when you purchase a Škoda and any failure is most
disappointing. However, there is always a possibility that a component may fail during its lifetime. It is for this reason all
new Škoda’s are supplied with a comprehensive three year or 60,000 miles warranty, whichever arrives first.

Outside of the Manufacturer’s Warranty, we look to contribute towards repair costs wherever possible. When assessing the level
of support, we would take into account the vehicle’s age, mileage and network service history.

I have discussed the case with Michael Jones, Service Advisor at Lightcliffe Škoda, North Wales. I understand that the confirmed
fault is related to the G201 brake sensor issue. Having reviewed the matter, I am unable to offer goodwill towards the repair.
This is because there are a number of vehicles of a specific chassis range affected by this issue. Your vehicle does not fall
within these parameters. For these reasons, whilst sympathising that this repair has proved necessary, we are unable to
contribute on this occasion.

I appreciate that this is not the outcome you had anticipated, but trust that you understand the reasoning behind our decision.
Thank you for contacting Škoda UK.

Kind regards


Maryum Butt
Customer Relations Manager
ŠKODA UK | Selectapost 34 | Sheffield | S97 3FA
Tel: +44 (0)333 0037 504
[email protected] | www.skoda.co.uk | www.skoda-auto.com

 

...I sent this reply to the email to VW in hopes of getting a different response...

 

Hello,

 

I'm a proud owner of Skoda Octavia VRS.  I bought the car privately back in April 2014 from a private seller.  I've moved over to the VAG range from Ford as I believe in the build quality and reliability is far superior.

 

I have full Skoda history with the exception of one indy service and I got my cam belt changed by Skoda Lightcliffe in Llandudno this year.  I'm palling of having all my future work done by this garage as I have been impressed with the service thus far.

 

However my car currently has the G201 fault and after searching forums and such I discovered that many VAG car owners were getting the problem fixed for free.  I was disappointed when Skoda told me I could not get this done for free.  My ref with Skoda on this matter is SD-2015/04-002803.

 

My car is under 60,000k and a part such as this should not be failing, especially with VAG builds.  Unfortunately this is a problem that has occurred quite often and I cannot except my car does not fall under the same category and is simply wear and tear.  Further more the service handbook does not say a part for the G201 fault needs to be changed every 60,000k.  It costs more than a cam belt change so it would be in there if it did.

 

Please look into my case as I would greatly appreciate this work to be done for free as many of your other VAG customers have had.

 

Regards,

 

Gary

 

...this is the reply I got...

 

 

Dear Mr Hughes

Further to your recent email, your case was reviewed by Michaela Radovanovic, my line manager.

Michaela has supported the original decision and it will not be changed. We are unable to offer a contribution towards the
repair. This is because the vehicle has an incomplete service history within our approved network and its age is outside our
parameters for goodwill.

I appreciate that this is not the outcome you were hoping for and that you are disappointed by the outcome. If you wish to
discuss this case further with Michaela, please do not hesitate to contact us on 0333 0037 504 between 9:30am to 5:30pm, Monday
to Friday.

Kind regards


Maryum Butt
Customer Relations Manager
ŠKODA UK | Selectapost 34 | Sheffield | S97 3FA
Tel: +44 (0)333 0037 504
[email protected] | www.skoda.co.uk | www.skoda-auto.com

 

...she must cover both Skoda and VW customer services!  Do you guys know where I stand with this?  Is it going to be a case of footing the bill to get it fixed or have I got a case to take it further?  Surely the traction control system should not fail so early in a cars life!  Especially as I never abuse the car and neither did the old man who owned it before me.  I have one private mechanic do a full service on the car not long after I bought it but the timing belt was replaced by a Skoda approved dealership early this year so I think they are being unfair with the whole service history part of it.  The car also has less than 60k on the clock.

What service history does the car have?

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It has full service history with the exception of 1 private service.  My cam belt was changed early this year by Skoda themselves.

It has full service history with the exception of 1 private service.  My cam belt was changed early this year by Skoda themselves.

Yep Skoda wont support goodwill on cars without Skoda service history. Even then if the car was less than 6 years old you could go forward with Sales of Goods act claim but not on a 2008 car

Yep Skoda wont support goodwill on cars without Skoda service history. Even then if the car was less than 6 years old you could go forward with Sales of Goods act claim but not on a 2008 car

I actually got this covered in the end. Although it did take an email to the Skoda UK chairman to get it sorted. You don't need a full Skoda Service History either but it does help with cases. I'm now in process of getting my rusty sills covered by warranty.