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Do you guys know why you can`t get DSG paddle shifter on the new Octavia Scout? I`m wondering in order a Octavia Scout 1.8 TSI DSG, but I want to have the paddle shifters.

Is it only a option on the RS?

 

As far as I can see it is not an option on the Scout from the norwegian dealers. I guess it`s the same in UK.

Why?

 

Not an option in the UK either.

I can only assume it's because it has the scout logo and they don't want to go to the effort of another combination of logo/wheel type.

You could easily retrofit on though, the VCDS coding is known I think.

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You can't even get the 1.8 TSI engine as an option in UK. Only get 150 Bhp diesel with manual gearbox or 184 Bhp diesel with DSG.

As said steering wheel with paddles could should be easy to retrofit and code.

I have it on mine 1,8 TSI 4x4 (not Scout) in combination with the 3-spoke sport steering wheel. Love both, the best options of them all!

Have you checked with the dealer or have you just fiddled with the configurator?

Edited 10 February, 201511 yr by fatzy

I`ve used the configurator and looked at pictures and movies. No paddles as far as I can see.

Guess I`ll have to contact my dealer for pricedetails on a new steeringwheel with shiftingpaddles. 

Not sure if the dealer would do the retrofit for me, but I guess I`ll manage it myself by using VCDS and this forum

In Luxembourg you can't get the paddles on the scout either.

Listen, i hardly EVER use the paddle shifts... With the DSG, it is so limited you will be steering activating the changes compared to just drive it on stick or leave it as is, when having the main settings chosen.

 

Also, my girlfriend drove on highway back home from Fredrikstad, and mistakenly started hitting " - " for activating the cruice control...

... yes she has the blond nuance.

Conversely I used the paddles for downshifts on braking events about 5 times in 10 miles on the way home today

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Conversely I used the paddles for downshifts on braking events about 5 times in 10 miles on the way home today

Same here, it's very handy for downshifts for engine braking at downhill and before intersections.

I flick to S for most braking events, and pull an extra downshift if I feel it needs it, or usually as I apex to make sure of a decent pull away out of the corner.

It's force of habit from driving a manual most of the time and being used to barely using the brakes! I miss my BMW 135i DCT where you could flick the kickdown button under the throttle to grab the lowest possible gear for the road speed and it would hold it indefinitely until you accelerated again, the VAG DSG/STronic/TipTronic will only do this in S not D, in D it immediately shifts up again (often not even selecting the low gear in reality, just flicking up the number on the dash as it was about too).

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I was about to pick the paddles from the options list before going on a test drive, but upon actually driving it I realized the stick fits my hand so perfectly I preferred using it for manual shifting over the paddles. Thus I decided to save some money and keep the (IMO) better looking four prong steering wheel.

Edited 12 February, 201511 yr by kallekilponen

I was about to pick the paddles from the options list before going on a test drive, but upon actually driving it I realized the stick fits my hand so perfectly I preferred using it for manual shifting over the paddles. Thus I decided to save some money and keep the (IMO) better looking four prong steering wheel.

Seriously?  You would rather take one hand completely off the steering wheel than keep your hand on the wheel and just flick a paddle with your finger tip.  I think the ability to use the steering wheel paddles to over-ride the DSG (or when in manual mode) is one of the best features of my car. 

Seriously? You would rather take one hand completely off the steering wheel than keep your hand on the wheel and just flick a paddle with your finger tip. I think the ability to use the steering wheel paddles to over-ride the DSG (or when in manual mode) is one of the best features of my car.

If he drives anything like me he wouldnt have both hands on wheel, unless excessive speeding :p

It's one thing I would have liked to have had on my ex-demo.

 

You get such good engine braking with a diesel.

It's one thing I would have liked to have had on my ex-demo.

You get such good engine braking with a diesel.

Eh? You get FAR less engine braking with a diesel. Which is why lorries are fitted with J-Brakes (valves which open in the head to allow the compressed air to escape at the top of the cycle rather than act as a spring to push the cylinder back down).

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I have been thinking of swapping 1.8 for Scout. Probably will not happen, but I like the paddles. Really good to be in controll with both hands on the wheel.

 

Plus it is really nice to hit manual mode, wait for the green light and smoke some boomer or audi - *evil grin*

 

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Would it be possible to order non Scout wheel on a Scout to get the paddles?

Edited 13 February, 201511 yr by conn

 

 

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Would it be possible to order non Scout wheel on a Scout to get the paddles?

 

See beginning of thread.

If he drives anything like me he wouldnt have both hands on wheel, unless excessive speeding :p

True, I usually have my left hand on the wheel and right hand on the shifter unless I'm driving in particularly slippery conditions. And in those conditions I seldom need to shift manually anyway.

 

(Yeah, I know you should always have both hands on the wheel, but I doubt I'll ever break my bad habit...) 

True, I usually have my left hand on the wheel and right hand on the shifter unless I'm driving in particularly slippery conditions. And in those conditions I seldom need to shift manually anyway.

(Yeah, I know you should always have both hands on the wheel, but I doubt I'll ever break my bad habit...)

Same way as I do it

I really dont see point of having both hands on the wheel with modern cars. Basicly no risk of losing control, not like on the old cars without servo were a deep puddle really could mess up the day.

You don't need both hands on the wheel to enjoy the paddles, it's so convenient to flick the paddle twice. Then you have the engine brake..... or fantastic POWER available! And the 3 spoke, flat bottom sport steering wheel is so nice!

Same way as I do it

I really dont see point of having both hands on the wheel with modern cars. Basicly no risk of losing control, not like on the old cars without servo were a deep puddle really could mess up the day.

I hope you never hit debris in the road at speed like I have (at night on motorway).  Even with both hands on the wheel I only just avoided hitting car to my left and the central barrier.  With only one hand on the wheel there would definitely been a serious collision.

I hope you never hit debris in the road at speed like I have (at night on motorway).  Even with both hands on the wheel I only just avoided hitting car to my left and the central barrier.  With only one hand on the wheel there would definitely been a serious collision.

Such surprises can usually be avoided by keeping a safe distance and speed so you have enough time to see it and react.

 

That said, with modern power steering, I haven't had problems maintaining control with one hand even in a high speed avoidance situations. But of course it's better to keep both hands on the wheel at all times.

 

My bad habits are probably due to my driving history. Modern cars feel so easy to handle even in extreme conditions compared to some of the cars and conditions I've driven in over the years. There's nothing quite like driving a front heavy RWD car with no safety or assistive systems at all, on steep inclines in the Finnish winter to get you concentrating 110% on what you're doing. I swear at times it felt like I had four hands spinning the wheel, trying to catch every skid.

Such surprises can usually be avoided by keeping a safe distance and speed so you have enough time to see it and react.

 

That said, with modern power steering, I haven't had problems maintaining control with one hand even in a high speed avoidance situations. But of course it's better to keep both hands on the wheel at all times.

 

My bad habits are probably due to my driving history. Modern cars feel so easy to handle even in extreme conditions compared to some of the cars and conditions I've driven in over the years. There's nothing quite like driving a front heavy RWD car with no safety or assistive systems at all, on steep inclines in the Finnish winter to get you concentrating 110% on what you're doing. I swear at times it felt like I had four hands spinning the wheel, trying to catch every skid.

Believe me that at 70mph on a motorway in the dark, on a slight right-hand bend so opposing traffic headlights shining towards you, it is not possible to see a large strip of dark blue right-angled metal laying diagonally in outer lane.  The impact almost wrenched the wheel out of BOTH hands, deflated the near-side front tyre and wrote-off the alloy wheel.  There was also damage to the lower front bumper moulding.  When the police arrived to remove the debris from the road and saw the size of the chunk of metal they expressed surprised that there wasn't more damage to my car.

 

As for keeping a safe distance from the traffic in front I have on occasion been asked by passengers why I leave so much space in front of my car.  Even on a dry road in daylight I leave a minimum of 2 seconds (so 70+ yards at 70mph and 30+ yards at 30mph).  That is due to my IAM training.

Believe me that at 70mph on a motorway in the dark, on a slight right-hand bend so opposing traffic headlights shining towards you, it is not possible to see a large strip of dark blue right-angled metal laying diagonally in outer lane.

In such conditions 70 mph is simply too fast. If you're traveling at a speed you can't avoid an obstacle when it enters your field of view, you need to slow down...

 

Keeping a safe driving speed in poor visibility is something I've learnt to take very seriously, since I live in a country with an abundance of deer and moose.

Edited 15 February, 201511 yr by kallekilponen

In such conditions 70 mph is simply too fast. If you're traveling at a speed you can't avoid an obstacle when it enters your field of view, you need to slow down...

 

Keeping a safe driving speed in poor visibility is something I've learnt to take very seriously, since I live in a country with an abundance of deer and moose

 

So at night on a UK motorway you would drive at less than 70mph?  How fast - 60, 50?  I don't believe you.  You would really drive assuming that there is a dark coloured object on the road?

 

Anyway, I am now out of this thread as we have taken it off the original subject to which I now return.  Yes, I do think the steering wheel paddles enhance the driving experience with DSG and would not have a DSG equipped car without them.