You should all buy the Superb.

 

It has an arse only a mother could love, following drivers have no choice but to hang back to avoid retching.

 

Here's mine!

 

Oddly I find most of the people tailgaiting me (in my skoda, which I've only had a few days, and my previous car) are always driving diesel Golfs. Or vauxhall zafiras.

Probably think they are "better" than you....until you pull away from them.

 

My misses uses mine as the daily drive and when a dual carridge way was part of her journey she did used to get a lot of people trying to get her to race. As mine is mapped but looks totally standard most of the time it was rep-mobiles so she put her foot down and they dissapeared

Some really interesting points raised. Here's my take based on 25 - 30k miles per year annual driving (mostly motorways for work).

1. I own a silver vRS estate and yes I agree with a previous post, a silver estate does have an effect on slowing down other drivers in a pseudo-police car type of way.

2. A previous post stating that I'm in the outside lane doing 70 mph so why would anyone want/need to pass just demonstrates the "I'm alright Jack" attitude that just p*sses off well intentioned motorists who consider road conditions relative to traffic flow.

3. Motorway lane protocols are a frustration for all considerate drivers - I simply cannot understand why anyone wouldn't pull into the inside lane if the motorway is quiet to maximise traffic flows. The amount of Middle lane (cruise control induced) hogging, instantly turning a three lane motorway into two lanes drives me insane.

4. Badge snobbery/car envy we can debate all day long but for me there is a noticeable sense of entitlement from Audi/BMW and to a lesser extent Mercedes drivers. Don't really pay much attention the 4x4 brigade as they are vanity purchases anyway and that's a whole subject on its own.

5. The afor mentioned entitled drivers really don't like a considerable cheaper but equally as good vehicle undermining their considerably more expensive mistake, sorry decision!! More so when you are able to put your foot down and they disappear in your rear view mirror. Kinda rubs it in don't you think?

2. A previous post stating that I'm in the outside lane doing 70 mph so why would anyone want/need to pass just demonstrates the "I'm alright Jack" attitude that just p*sses off well intentioned motorists who consider road conditions relative to traffic

But you are not allowed to go more than 70 (And yes I agree if the other lanes are clear you should pull over but if the inside lane is doing 50 and the middle lane 60, why should I do 100 in the outside lane because the idiot behind me doesn't give a toss about the speed 'limit' and has a fancy car) I know people say doing 80 or 90 doesn't really matter and the plod turn a blind eye, but rally it's like saying "I only embezzled a small amount and the company can afford it so where's the harm". If 80 or 90 is ok on the motorway then how come 35 or 40 is frowned on around the housing estate. The problem is people get the impression that's speeding is ok and apply it to all situations, right up until the kid runs out in front of them. Rant over (And I know most will heartily disagree with this and shoot me down but I'm entitled to my opinion).

But you are not allowed to go more than 70 (And yes I agree if the other lanes are clear you should pull over but if the inside lane is doing 50 and the middle lane 60, why should I do 100 in the outside lane because the idiot behind me doesn't give a toss about the speed 'limit' and has a fancy car) I know people say doing 80 or 90 doesn't really matter and the plod turn a blind eye, but rally it's like saying "I only embezzled a small amount and the company can afford it so where's the harm". If 80 or 90 is ok on the motorway then how come 35 or 40 is frowned on around the housing estate. The problem is people get the impression that's speeding is ok and apply it to all situations, right up until the kid runs out in front of them. Rant over (And I know most will heartily disagree with this and shoot me down but I'm entitled to my opinion).

Quite rightly, you are entitled to your own opinion, what you are not entitled to do is police the roads by intentionally obstructing the flow of the traffic because you don't agree with people travelling over 70 mph. Leave the policing of the roads to the Police. You talk about risk associated with speeding but have you consider the risk you may cause by intentionally holding up an ever-incraslingly agitated driver who simply is looking to pass you??

Umm... He wasn't. He was hypothetically doing 70 in lane 3, overtaking the traffic in lane 2 doing 60. Read it again...

Can't be arsed!!!

I usually get this hate (not the undertaking etc) but tailgating when driving small cars. Don't get anything when driving in the Octy.

Quite rightly, you are entitled to your own opinion, what you are not entitled to do is police the roads by intentionally obstructing the flow of the traffic because you don't agree with people travelling over 70 mph. Leave the policing of the roads to the Police. You talk about risk associated with speeding but have you consider the risk you may cause by intentionally holding up an ever-incraslingly agitated driver who simply is looking to pass you??

 

That's not what they said they were doing, overtaking a slower vehicle within the speed limit is not 'policing the roads'.

 

John

Quite rightly, you are entitled to your own opinion, what you are not entitled to do is police the roads by intentionally obstructing the flow of the traffic because you don't agree with people travelling over 70 mph. Leave the policing of the roads to the Police. You talk about risk associated with speeding but have you consider the risk you may cause by intentionally holding up an ever-incraslingly agitated driver who simply is looking to pass you??

At what point did I say I was intentionally holding people up? I a legitimate overtake I am well within my rights to stick to the speed limit providing I am making decent progress past a slower vehicle (I.e. An overtake of considerably more than 1mph differential). What I don't like is being made to intentionally break the law because someone else wants to.

If 80 or 90 is ok on the motorway then how come 35 or 40 is frowned on around the housing estate. The problem is people get the impression that's speeding is ok and apply it to all situations, right up until the kid runs out in front of them. Rant over (And I know most will heartily disagree with this and shoot me down but I'm entitled to my opinion).

 

My only input would be whilst I religiously stick to 30mph in 30 limits due to the abundance of pedestrians and cyclists I regularly sit at 80mph in 70 limits as I perceive the risks to be much lower.

 

I can see and sympathise with both sides of the debate.

 

Whilst I'm sure Anddenton isn't one of them there are people who will deliberately try to obstruct other cars because they believe no one should speed.

Agree with Silver's post above ... in fact on side roads in residential areas, town centres ect,  I am usually driving at a maximum of 20mph on those roads marked at 30mph, and often less if cars parked either side of the road, and believe that most of those streets should have that limit imposed, as there is already outside many schools.... you really cannot compare not keeping to the limit off the motorways to on them, and repeat as in my earlier post, that the national limit on clear motorways outside of active limit areas or other temporary limits due to accidents ect, should now be raised to 80mph... I am sure that everyone here is able to assess conditions/situations on all roads and drive accordingly and safely.

 

Alan.

My only input would be whilst I religiously stick to 30mph in 30 limits due to the abundance of pedestrians and cyclists I regularly sit at 80mph in 70 limits as I perceive the risks to be much lower.

Which is great but I think many less conscientious drivers take the "it's ok to speed on motorways" to mean "it's ok to speed" so imho the blind eye to 80 or 90 on the motorway sends out the wrong message. I'd be much happier if the motorway speed limit was raised to 90 and the police religiously pulled people who were speeding to hammer home the message that speeding is wrong, not that it's ok to use your judgement on it (people on here are car people and therefore likely to have good judgement, however there are many out there who don't have the experience to get the judgement call correctly in all circumstances).

To show I see both sides of the debate...

 

There is one small village on my 60 mile commute where the limit goes from 60mph to 40mph to 30mph, back to 40 then back to 60.

 

The whole variation of speed limits must be no more than half a mile long through a small residential area on an otherwise busy arterial route.

 

Reducing my speed without braking so that I'm doing bang on 40 at the sign and then sticking to the speed limit really riles people, they sit inches off my bumper.

 

I won't be pressured into speeding. Likewise if someone behind me wants to go faster then I'll make it as easy for them to pass me safely as I possibly can.

Which is great but I think many less conscientious drivers take the "it's ok to speed on motorways" to mean "it's ok to speed" so imho the blind eye to 80 or 90 on the motorway sends out the wrong message. I'd be much happier if the motorway speed limit was raised to 90 and the police religiously pulled people who were speeding to hammer home the message that speeding is wrong, not that it's ok to use your judgement on it (people on here are car people and therefore likely to have good judgement, however there are many out there who don't have the experience to get the judgement call correctly in all circumstances).

 

 

There are no police , they have been replaced by cameras , or community officers who don't police the roads, those that are meant to police the roads are often called to support the regular officers, there has never been a better time to speed , provided you know the camera locations of course. 

 

If you want to do 70mph in the fog on a busy motorway, no longer an issue

 

Drive at 30mph past a school when the are kicking out ? Go ahead , no one to stop you , the camera wont car

 

Want to sit in the middle lane of a motorway or the right hand lane of a dual carriageway for 15 miles , no longer a problem

There are no police , they have been replaced by cameras , or community officers who don't police the roads, those that are meant to police the roads are often called to support the regular officers, there has never been a better time to speed , provided you know the camera locations of course.

If you want to do 70mph in the fog on a busy motorway, no longer an issue

Drive at 30mph past a school when the are kicking out ? Go ahead , no one to stop you , the camera wont car

Want to sit in the middle lane of a motorway or the right hand lane of a dual carriageway for 15 miles , no longer a problem

I know what you're saying, sad state of affairs but what can you do? Just like the NHS policing is an expensive business these days so they have to prioritise. I understand this, however I don't understand the people who think it gives them free reign to do what they want, but these days I can't see how this situation can be rectified.

People either move over assuming I'm the police (and then give me dirty looks out the side window as i gradually pass them) or they don't let me out at junctions as they assume I'm a taxi and think that I think that I own the road...

My main problem with my VRS was that people didn't seem to see it which I attributed to the silver colour, 

 

John