what do you mean by "dealership is on the number plates but they ask not to mention it.." surely if you are the first registered owner then it doesn't matterwhat the plates are (as long they are legit) because any skoda dealer will service and make warranty repairs etc.?

Did you buy outright or go with PCP?

Benzman,

Have a look at 'Skodastore.com'. Rainworth Skoda just outside Mansfield, Notts. Orderered my Octavia Elegance 1.4 tsi,DSG hatchback three months ago. Took delivery at end of April.

Put a few extras on the order.Saved about 3K in total. Also bought 'her indoors' a new Fabia 18 months ago with a

big saving.

Thats a moot point (try talking to Pipsyp about residuals) however, if the Salespersons are still willing to give that higher GFV and you really want a diesel go for it although, for me the break even point was about 22k miles p.a. and the smoother less agricultural engine tone won the day.

Indeed manwithnoaim! I have to say to the OP if you are planning to buy a new Octavia on PCP make sure you are in it for the long term as residual values on the things are proving ghastly.

My 23.5k mile Feb 14 (63 plate) 2.0 Elegance estate manual...list circa. 23k after 15 months is worth barely 13k...and thats strong trade money. I couldnt justify selling it as Id have to pay thousands now just to walk away from it. Im not naive and know most cars deprciate but this is the worst experience ive had for a while.....worth noting that a Mk2 Blackline estate at over 2 years old with more miles wouldnt trade for a great deal less than that...and it was a cheaper car to begin with.

Im passing mine over to my wife to replace her ageing wheels and going back to a company car....annoyed as still got to stomach a near £300/month payment on it for the next couple of years but getting rid would prove v costly.

If you are buying one with cash and looking to keep it indefinitely then not a problem. Just personal opinion but I would avoid purchasing an L&K model or an SE/Elegance with loads of additional spec as they wont be worth a fart after 18 months/2 years....a standard Elegance is probably worth the spend over an SE because its considerably better equipped.

Received my 1.4 TSI yesterday, pulls even better than test driven 2.0 TDI despite of it being only 100km old. Moreover, 2.0 TDI is a lot more expensive than 1.4 TSI. 1.6 TDI is too weak for me...

what do you mean by "dealership is on the number plates but they ask not to mention it.." surely if you are the first registered owner then it doesn't matterwhat the plates are (as long they are legit) because any skoda dealer will service and make warranty repairs etc.?

Did you buy outright or go with PCP?

 

What is meant, is that the on-line seller doesn't want the suppling dealership's detail listed on the internet forums.  Quite simple really, the on-line seller has a contract to sell X number of cars at X% discount, if you or I approached the dealership direct we wouldn't get the same discount as we're not buying the same number of cars the on-line seller is. 

 

In addition, the on-line seller's contract maybe with SUK and they alone decide which dealership gets which order and hence, which dealership provides 1 car will be different from the next car and any expectation by the customer of receiving an  X dealership car maybe disapointed not to therefore, the on-line seller asks buyers not to state where the car came from.

 

Its general marketting and sales bull something to do with expectation/perception gaps, load of pseudo intellectual ****** if you ask me but, if Mr Knobhead Jones has been boasting down the pub he's getting a Rainworth Skoda just like his mates and he gets a Garland Skoda he ain't gonna be happy hence, the cover up.

Thanks for that themanwithnoaim, that does make things clearer.

Would it be therefore be sensible to say that with current residuals being so pathetic, and purchase prices remaining high - the only sensible way to buy a new octavia is: from an online broker - buying with cash not finance - and keeping for 7/8 years when another years depreciation is relatively small. Buying PCP sees only to be worth it if you are going for a year old car where the low GFV, and the year old price tag result in significantly lower monthly payments?

Indeed manwithnoaim! I have to say to the OP if you are planning to buy a new Octavia on PCP make sure you are in it for the long term as residual values on the things are proving ghastly.

My 23.5k mile Feb 14 (63 plate) 2.0 Elegance estate manual...list circa. 23k after 15 months is worth barely 13k...and thats strong trade money. I couldnt justify selling it as Id have to pay thousands now just to walk away from it. Im not naive and know most cars deprciate but this is the worst experience ive had for a while.....worth noting that a Mk2 Blackline estate at over 2 years old with more miles wouldnt trade for a great deal less than that...and it was a cheaper car to begin with.

Im passing mine over to my wife to replace her ageing wheels and going back to a company car....annoyed as still got to stomach a near £300/month payment on it for the next couple of years but getting rid would prove v costly.

If you are buying one with cash and looking to keep it indefinitely then not a problem. Just personal opinion but I would avoid purchasing an L&K model or an SE/Elegance with loads of additional spec as they wont be worth a fart after 18 months/2 years....a standard Elegance is probably worth the spend over an SE because its considerably better equipped.

 

I really am glad I got the Golf instead of a high spec'd elegance..............Man I "feel your pain"...............

 

I think the reason for this is the cheaper spec cars are good for budget, the VRS is the sporty type & VW Golf only has GTI/GTD hatch/estate so not quite competition when comparing size etc..........leaving the high spec se/elegance which are direct competition to the Golf estate MK7 ....which happens to be the best looking one for ages as the previous ones look "bulbous" from the rear. So people will go for the Golf MK7 estate in the long term over the se/elegance spec Octi

 

My 2p worth on why the residuals have plummeted on that spec of MK3 Octavia. Golf GT estates are holding very well.....sorry...........

I really am glad I got the Golf instead of a high spec'd elegance..............Man I "feel your pain"...............

I think the reason for this is the cheaper spec cars are good for budget, the VRS is the sporty type & VW Golf only has GTI/GTD hatch/estate so not quite competition when comparing size etc..........leaving the high spec se/elegance which are direct competition to the Golf estate MK7 ....which happens to be the best looking one for ages as the previous ones look "bulbous" from the rear. So people will go for the Golf MK7 estate in the long term over the se/elegance spec Octi

My 2p worth on why the residuals have plummeted on that spec of MK3 Octavia. Golf GT estates are holding very well.....sorry...........

I dont know that I entirely agree to be honest fabdavrav, the Octavia was an awful lot cheaper to finance than the equivalent Golf estate...just their 0% finance and minimal deposit mixed with now obviously unrealistic 3/3.5 year GFVs mean that most people who took such a deal are now rather locked into it. For those in it for the long term it doesnt really matter and the Octavia will still represent an awful lot of car for the cash....for someone like me whose situation changed markedly and could have done with moving it on after 12 months fell foul to it....my own stupidity to a degree I must confess.

Mk7 Golfs really arent doing so clever TBH so you might want to get a realistic valuation done on yours. A mate of mine has a lovely Limestone Grey GTI 5 door, only a year or so old...with full leather and keyless was a 30k car...with v little mileage and in immaculate condition offered 19k for it. 11k hit in 12 months is no laughing matter where Im standing.

Ive no doubt a retailer would then knock it out at 23-24k any day of the week but dealers sure as **** arent offering strong trade money for them....not IMHO anyway.

After the experience with the Octavia Im now not sure id ever want to PCP any brand new car again unless it was guaranteed somehow to be a winner residually.

Is this just evidence to point that PCP deals are self destructive as a buying technique on new cars? - The market is now flooded with 3 year old cars driving down the values because nobody is buying a new car and keeping it long term?

I dont know that I entirely agree to be honest fabdavrav, the Octavia was an awful lot cheaper to finance than the equivalent Golf estate...just their 0% finance and minimal deposit mixed with now obviously unrealistic 3/3.5 year GFVs mean that most people who took such a deal are now rather locked into it. For those in it for the long term it doesnt really matter and the Octavia will still represent an awful lot of car for the cash....for someone like me whose situation changed markedly and could have done with moving it on after 12 months fell foul to it....my own stupidity to a degree I must confess.

Mk7 Golfs really arent doing so clever TBH so you might want to get a realistic valuation done on yours. A mate of mine has a lovely Limestone Grey GTI 5 door, only a year or so old...with full leather and keyless was a 30k car...with v little mileage and in immaculate condition offered 19k for it. 11k hit in 12 months is no laughing matter where Im standing.

Ive no doubt a retailer would then knock it out at 23-24k any day of the week but dealers sure as **** arent offering strong trade money for them....not IMHO anyway.

After the experience with the Octavia Im now not sure id ever want to PCP any brand new car again unless it was guaranteed somehow to be a winner residually.

 

Finance, hitting all cars I think as you say, I do agree on the GTI getting hit, the estate isn't as badly hit from what I've seen, but as you say if in for long term 5yrs plus then it doesn't really matter.

 

So cash for the next car then & start saving eh?...........

Is this just evidence to point that PCP deals are self destructive as a buying technique on new cars? - The market is now flooded with 3 year old cars driving down the values because nobody is buying a new car and keeping it long term?

The PCP is popular because in effect you get a car 0-3 years old for the equivalent of a 3-6 year old car's HP payments, when or if the lower value of a 3 year old car will affect the GFV is for the car manufacturers to tell, they may not wish to pass on to the buyer the extra depreciation thereby, selling more new cars which is after all their intention.

 

The difference between GFV and the trade price of 3 year old could just be considered one of many "cost of sales" which may go someway to explaining the fact that the cheapest PCH deals are for either 2 or 4 years and NOT 3 year deals or the car manufacturer trying of offset the ages of second hand cars they've gotta shift.

 

Either way, if a car manufacturer makes 40% profit on a £25k new car sale, the difference of £1,500 between the 3 year old trade price and the GFV is only 15% of their profit, which ain't that much when you consider quite a few PCP's ballon payments are made so, not every car is gonna lose that 15%.  I kinda think the car manufacturer knows how to turn a penny, they've been at it quite some time now.

Agree with that last point. Road tax for diesels will change soon, for the worse. We all knew it was coming but the government doesn't act very quickly if at all so don't expect it in the upcoming budget but maybe in the one after. Petrol engines probably won't get much cheaper but diesels, even euro 6 engines, will probably get quite a hike.

I work in the bio fuels industry and you are right. It will be a few years yet though.

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Great. A big discount over the local dealer who said they couldn't match it (or anywhere close).

Found them through HonestJohns (the Daily Telegraph motoring journo) website. Good comms, delivered when they said they would (on a transporter lorry), just like buying from any Skoda dealer (the car is actually direct from a big skoda dealer in the north of England - dealership is on the numberplates but they ask not to mention it..). First registered user on the docs (i.e. it is not pre-registered or ex-demo etc).

I'd certainly use them again...which is why I suggested them!

Their prices certainly look enticing.

Did they supply the V5 document with the car?

Their prices certainly look enticing.

Did they supply the V5 document with the car?

 

No, came a couple of weeks later I think.

I've got ~18 months before my PCP is up on my vRS, I haven't made the decision what I'm going to do yet, I suspect that I'll just hand the car back after the contracted 3 years and start again.

 

Whether I have another vRS or have a more "normal" car I don't know yet either, it depends on how the specifications change in the next 18 months or so & personal circumstances.

 

I love the vRS for the pure grunt & go, but at times I think do I need it? But there's that nagging doubt whether I'd like & deal with  something with less grunt or not. :wonder:

a friend who works for VW said to me that the brokers like carwow etc are using a fleet discount code which they then share with the dealer, so the buyer gets the price reflecting a serious volume discount even though only buying one car. All the big manufacturers are trying to close this down apparently (funny that). 

Wouldn't say that the car wow discount was massive. I was looking at around 6% on pcp. Other manufacturers like Ford or Seat were much more generous around the 12% mark (but they weren't doing such a low apr)

With reference to carwow, they do not decide on the discount given, that is solely down to the dealer.

 

Carwow are not a fleet purchaser like Enterprise Rent-A-Car etc are, they are there, as per the likes of carfile, drive the deal are to try and obtain more favorable deals by offering numerous quotes from (now) numerous dealers (they must be in to double figures on dealers now).

 

One dealer may offer a lower price, but dealer 2 is a lot closer to Mr Customer, for convenience Mr Customer may decide that for another few hundred pounds he'd rather deal with a more local dealer - you never know, s/he could drive 300 + miles to pick their car up and it has a scratch, option been missed off, wrong colour........ wrong car!!!! Yes, it could happen a lot closer to home, but it is just that, a lot closer to home.

I am seriously considering using a broker for my next car simply because of the discount and the fact that it will bring the monthly payments down a lot more than i could get on my own. the only query I have is that if I do use a broker, and the dealer they talk to is the other end of the country, will I have to take the car back to that same dealer for srvicing, work under warranty etc? Or could that be done by any garage of that manufacturer, i.e. the one that is 5 miles away from my home not 305 miles?

I'd avoid these jokers 

http://www.new-car-discount.com/

£6k discount a little good to be true.
 

 

Look here.
http://www.reviewcentre.com/reviews113594.html

No company on the planet has 5.0 ratings for service.

Also, check the reviews - all from first reviewers and most telling of all. - They are all well written in well spelt English. No txt spk, no tpyos, proper punctuation...

 

Dead give-away.

 

Why is it a dead give away?

 

I try to use the best grammar possible and I have a grammar & spell checker built into my web browser, just as I do my email client; And most importantly it's set for English (United Kingdom), rather than a the usual default English (United States).

 

I take quite a bit of care to ensure that my spelling is correct and I only use the spell checker when I am unsure about a word. So whilst you may think that because it has no spelling mistakes or grammatical errors, it's a fake review. If you think that then you should take the time to report it and have the reviews & the submitter investigated to ensure that no wrongdoing has occurred.

 

Now. Is this post a fake or a computer pretending to be me?

138 5* reviews from new-to-the-site reviewers in perfect English.

 

I'll eat my hat if it's not been done by the broker themselves or oursourced to a typical £125 per 30 reviews freelancer in Russia/India.

I am seriously considering using a broker for my next car simply because of the discount and the fact that it will bring the monthly payments down a lot more than i could get on my own. the only query I have is that if I do use a broker, and the dealer they talk to is the other end of the country, will I have to take the car back to that same dealer for srvicing, work under warranty etc? Or could that be done by any garage of that manufacturer, i.e. the one that is 5 miles away from my home not 305 miles?

I have used Carfile.net for my last 3 new cars. 11% off retail price for my Fabia and likewise for my wife's last 2 Qashqais. Although I travelled in excess of 250 miles to get the Qashqais I use my local Nissan Dealer in Ayr for servicing/warranty issues.

I will be doing the same for my Fabia Jonathan at Carfile is an absolute pleasure to deal with and I was also quoted a higher part exchange price although the salesman didn't see my car until the day of purchase.

 

if I do use a broker, and the dealer they talk to is the other end of the country, will I have to take the car back to that same dealer for srvicing, work under warranty etc?

 

No. Just take it to your local dealer, doesn't matter where you bought it. I had a problem with a leaking rear light and local dealer sorted it with no questions.