After looking at the info on Adblue it doesn't appear to have many pros ,only meeting euro admissions.so IF I change vehicles again this aspect is going to be a point to consider as a pro for a petrol vehicle as I can't see if adblue is of any use in aiding the DPF and other exhaust monitors ,it's not just the small cost but the inconvenience and chances of damage the the interior and bodywork.

Edited 4 August, 201510 yr by Gizmo68
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Yes.

I am picking up my new Yeti today - it is a 170 L&K DSG demonstrator - so no adblue

AdBlue is there to counter the increased NOX from the DPF Every time they add another system, its generally been to counter the new problem from the last 'emissions enhancement'. EGRs produce extra soot. So they added DPFs. DPFs increase NOX so now they're getting AdBlue.

 

Diesel is dead. The only 'advancement' being done to it is to chase ever changing emissions requirements.

The problem with this is most people prefer the real world driving experience of diesel over petrol... :|

Although this is the Yeti section it would still be interesting to see a poll on this question. It would put me off buying a diesel with it, I would look for an alternative diesel without, if possible

The problem with this is most people prefer the real world driving experience of diesel over petrol...

I'd think more people prefer the torque you get with a diesel, for pretty low power/cost. The diesel driving experience isn't that great, with very frequent shifting due to the narrow power band. A petrol with the same amount of torque as a diesel, side by side, is far better to drive. Between a diesel and petrol of the same horsepower, yeah, the diesel feels better as it has more go

Won't bother me in the slightest. 

A diesel is far better off-road and towing, therefore I will stick to a diesel.

No, not at all.

My new 150 TDI is lovely to drive with lots of Torque in the mid range.

It feels  much more responsive to drive than my previous 1.8TSI.

It also looks to be giving around 45+ mpg as opposed to 30 mpg.

It's no bother to me if I have to top up the Adblue tank every 6 months or so.

If you have concerns just pop round to your Dealer to top up.

Is it just lazyness of the manufacturers not looking into alternative ways to achive the same goal ?

 

Ford use it on thier small commerical vehicles, but not on thieir EU6 cars

The problem with this is most people prefer the real world driving experience of diesel over petrol... :|

Eh?

 

We've done real-world, back to back comparisons of otherwise identical cars & decided we 

couldn't live with the noise, the narrow power & torque bands & the feeling that life isn't just about saving money!

 

None of our cars suffer from turbo-lag, they all pull from 1k rpm & will spin past 6+k rpm if we feel the need.

 

Yes, we are living in the real world......

 

Best Regards, DC. 

The problem with this is most people prefer the real world driving experience of diesel over petrol... :|

Stay calm now..........

Until they've driven the 1.2 Peugeot 308 (130bhp/230nm version) ......but only if you REALY love the driving characteristics of a diesel.

From what I understand, AdBlue converts nitrous oxide (nox) to safe to breathe nitrogen and water vapour, so for those desperate to hang in there it'll extend urban diesel life/acceptance.

I'd have a diesel in preference but cant afford the price premium with DSG. Adblue doesnt put me off but the not clever filler location in the boot does (but not much)

I'd rather have not had the Adblue but my timing of getting the car meant I've ended up with having it. Fortunately I'm not doing that many miles a year now so won't have the hassle of replenishing the Adblue that often.

Yes I know that not doing many miles is a reason for not having a diesel but I'm another that likes the characteristics (and noise for that matter) for vehicles like the Yeti and my previous Passat estates etc. and still work part-time with a fairly fast 20 mile each way commute which gives the DPF the required work out.

In the same way that I believe certain vehicles are better (for me) being diesel I also believe that more sporty cars should be petrol e.g. our family Mini Cooper S and Audi TT are both petrol - no way would they've been diesel! I at least put my money where my mouth is! Yes, I know that some diesels are very quick but the sweetness and wider rev band do it for me. Whilst modern diesels have a wider rev range than those of yore it goes against my nature to rev them very high and they sound like a bag of spanners.

I do disagree with the comment about having to make constant gear changes with a diesel. Yes, they do have a narrower power band, but because of their ability to pull higher gears you can cover quite a speed range, certainly in the mid-range gears. I'm happy with the characteristics of a diesel in the Yeti because that's the way I like to drive it, in a relaxed manner and don't find I'm changing gear excessively and I've only got the low powered one.

I did muse over the diesel v petrol decision before buying my car though but the petrol of only 1.2 (below L&K) swung it, if they'd been a 1.6 say, it could have gone the other way.

When I come to change the Yeti possibly in 3 years time (I'm keeping the TT!), whilst I don't want a completely electric car I'm hoping that the Audi e-tron technology has become more affordable because in SUV's that seems like the ideal. Small internal combustion engine but plenty of power and different options to use.

Edited 4 August, 201510 yr by VAGCF

It's actually the advancement in torque and efficiency of petrols that would put me off a diesel. AdBlue would be a contributory factor.

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In the same way that I believe certain vehicles are better (for me) being diesel I also believe that more sporty cars should be petrol e.g. our family Mini Cooper S and Audi TT are both petrol - no way would they've been diesel!

 

Our 2010 TT was a 170CR and it was still a hoon to drive! Fitted with a Scorpion exhaust it even sounded nice too.

 

 

It's actually the advancement in torque and efficiency of petrols that would put me off a diesel. AdBlue would be a contributory factor.

 

Not sure if this only applies to the MKIII Superb but the INCREASE in MPG (10% more) far outweighs the extra cost of using AdBlue.

 

I wouldn’t b happy with the filler neck being inside the car like on the Yeti, but most cars they will be next to the fuel filler cap, so no chance of spilling it in the car.

 

Would I buy a car with AdBlue, yes my next one will have it!

Used to use AdBlue in the trucks I drove, a few years back.

I'm happy with a separate tank filler next to the fuel filler.

Where Skoda have the Yeti AdBlue filler is not good for me.

I drive almost 2000 miles per month, so I'd be filling the AdBlue at least every 2 months.

I only want a diesel fuel car. Looks like an interesting time coming up late next year(2016)

when I'm looking to change.

Are well, that's life/progress.

The theoretical max range of the adblue system is 14000 @ £10.99 a 10litre bottle.

If you do mostly motorway driving, you can easily get 18k. Around town with lots of stop starts the range is around 7-8k

The cost of repairs to the adblue system would discourage me.

 

Couple that to the possibility of a turbo failure destroying thousands of pounds worth of sensors & catalysts in one hit & a car that refuses to start when a emissions fault presents itself............nope, i'll be having a petrol please, Diesels are being legislated out of existence.

Edited 4 August, 201510 yr by gigglepin

Noisy diesel ?? The first couple of times stop/start kicked in on mine I did not realise until I saw the message on the Maxidot

A petrol with the same amount of torque as a diesel, side by side, is far better to drive...

 

That's a pretty enormous proviso. Take almost any diesel model that you care to mention and show me a petrol model that's equivalent in torque but that doesn't have much greater emissions and proportionately lower mpg. (Actually there won't be too many models where a petrol option even has the same torque as the diesel.)

I think now that putting the Adblue filler in the boot was an easy fix on an old model and that on the mk2 yeti it will have the filler near the fuel filler like the superb and Octavia.

Just don't get it on the paintwork

Don't own a Yeti but Ad Blue wouldn't put me off in the slightest - I'm one of those strange people who prefer Diesel for everyday driving (Petrol is for the fun stuff...)