If stalling is a problem, you might have been better off with an automatic.

Having spent the last 8 years driving a Volvo S60 auto with the wonderful D5 engine, I recently had a test drive of a Fabia 1.2 TSi 110 Monte with a 6-spd manual. Wonderful device, didn't get anywhere near a stall at any time and a delightful gearbox. Reminded me greatly of my gone, but not forgotten, Mk1 Fabia vRS...but a little more refined. Don't think this stalling issues has anything to do with the engine. Operator error is my guess. Surely DSG would be the answer to previous auto drivers. All the convenience, no fuel or emissions penalties.

I've signed-up for anSE L TSi 110 with DSG. Part laziness, after 48 years behind the wheel, and part having to keep Mrs Alltorque happy 'cos she "Doesn't do manuals any more", after many years with a CVT Jazz. I must admit to looking forward to getting back into a Skoda...particularly with the panorama roof, (yes, I know, but I just liked the idea).

Well Im pleased to hear that! and yes we had a mini cooper diesel before this fabia diesel, we've had this since April 14th were changing it for a petrol 110 instead of the 90 we should have it next week sometime, we cut our losses and changed to a bit more power hoping and keeping everything crossed that we don't have a problem with the stall in this one.

John went round a roundabout onto the main road which had a police car parked in the layby only about 200 yds on :p guilt or what!! he removed his foot of the accelerator !! the flipping car cruised to a stop just opposite the police car that did it !! its a gonner

I hate to say it, but a 110bhp 1.2tsi isnt going to have much, if anything, extra torque at tickover than a 90bhp one.

Petrols just dont have torque that low down like a lazy low revving diesel does.

It's more to do with driving style than torque available at tickover, changing to a petrol from years of driving diesels will require a slight change in driving behavior then it will become second nature. 

It's more to do with driving style than torque available at tickover, changing to a petrol from years of driving diesels will require a slight change in driving behavior then it will become second nature.

Yeah it will yeah.

But diesels are renowned for being hard to stall. I often just set off in second gear in our PD T5 tbh. in first you can park or do whatever without any throttle input.

More of a balancing act with smaller petrol engines

I must add my bit, my diesel often stalls for no reason, I took mine back to the dealers too, they could find nothing wrong, I know I have not stalled it myself, and have been driving almost 40yrs too.

 

go figure   

Had a panick attack today thought car had broken down could not get it to start. Panick over not pushed clutch pedal down far enough one of the possible reasons for stalling. Just a case of getting used to the cars little quirks Joe

I must add my bit, my diesel often stalls for no reason, I took mine back to the dealers too, they could find nothing wrong, I know I have not stalled it myself, and have been driving almost 40yrs too.

 

go figure   

 

 

Had a panick attack today thought car had broken down could not get it to start. Panick over not pushed clutch pedal down far enough one of the possible reasons for stalling. Just a case of getting used to the cars little quirks Joe

 

 

Think we're gonna have to get them fitted with stonking big flywheels lads !!

Or leave the boots off and wear dancing shoes .....

.....or just adjust your driving style.

Well I should soon be able to tell you if it us or the car!! we pick up our new car on Wednesday afternoon, whoever gets this diesel is getting a brand new car with just over 800 mls on the clock.  The salesman said he is having it for a couple of weeks as he hasnt driven the 90 diesel.

 

I must admit to being  very glad to be handing it back as Jon has had a couple of blips the last time out ! in fact I find it very hard to relax when he is driving it!  I dont know what he is doing but it is as if it is jumping out of gear !! talk about kangaroo oil!!!

 

Ill let you know how we get on with this new one.

We have driven about 18 different makes of car over the last 50 years plus 2 Motorhomes 1 of which we have  driven  over 3.200 mls in 6 weeks just this summer in France/Italy/Switzeland/Germany , so please dont think we dont know how to drive. 

Hope the new car works out OK for you Joe

I hate to say it, but a 110bhp 1.2tsi isnt going to have much, if anything, extra torque at tickover than a 90bhp one.

Petrols just dont have torque that low down like a lazy low revving diesel does.

Well I can report they is a heck of a difference we got our new 110 bhs petrol yesterday, driving it is a pleasure, not once did I feel as if it was going to die on me , even coming to a near stop and starting off again in 2nd ! if I had done that in the 90 it definitely would have stalled.  Its probably too early to say but up to now we are very pleased and glad we changed it , in hindsite we were very lax in not test driving the diesel if we had Im sure we wouldnt have ordered it as when we picked it up and drove it for the first time it was a nightmare drive home :peek:  I have never had to coax a car to go without stopping as I did that one!! it really is a miracle some- o ne didnt drive into the back of me  .

 

Anyway it is gone and the young salesman said he is having it for a couple of weeks and he is going to let me know if he has a problem with it.

I have to admit that I have stalled wife's new Polo 1.2TSI 110 SEL, once!  It stupidly allowed me to select 3rd gear instead of 1st gear prior to moving away at a roundabout, as it was already in the "stop/start" mode as far as conditions were concerned, the usual normal reaction, ie pressing down the clutch pedal fired it back up again - so in this instance, stop/start came to my rescue!

 

I just happened to "give in" and watch one of the ECP videos, and on the battery one, they pointed out something that I had not considered, and that is that the type of battery used in "stop/start" cars, will handle a lot more start cycles in its life time than a normal battery, that is handy!

I just happened to "give in" and watch one of the ECP videos, and on the battery one, they pointed out something that I had not considered, and that is that the type of battery used in "stop/start" cars, will handle a lot more start cycles in its life time than a normal battery, that is handy!

 

Only the diesels have Gell cells petrol models have normal car batteries

 

I just happened to "give in" and watch one of the ECP videos, and on the battery one, they pointed out something that I had not considered, and that is that the type of battery used in "stop/start" cars, will handle a lot more start cycles in its life time than a normal battery, that is handy!

 

Only the diesels have Gell cells petrol models have normal car batteries

 

I'm sure that wife's new Polo 1.2TSI 110PS SEL has a AGM battery.

I'm sure that wife's new Polo 1.2TSI 110PS SEL has a AGM battery.

 

I was completely wrong, the above posting should now read   " wife's new Polo 1.2TSI 110PS SEL will get a AGM battery when this one starts to give trouble"  - just looked up the Exide on-line applications catalogue and it quotes "AGM" technology battery for that car - but that really means, "next time" !

Funnily enough I have stalled my Polo quite a few times since I have had it and it is a diesel. I have found that on most occassions I can restart with just depressing the clutch. Otherwise it tells me to "restart the engine using the ignition key"

Funnily enough I have stalled my Polo quite a few times since I have had it and it is a diesel. I have found that on most occassions I can restart with just depressing the clutch. Otherwise it tells me to "restart the engine using the ignition key"

 

The latter sounds like a recipe for embarrassment though?! I mean, having a keyless car might often equate to to a key that's not always immediately accessible.... (ie deep in a random pocket). Is it as awkward as I'm imagining? I'm awaiting my Fabia 1.2 TSI 110PS SEL and want to get my head around it all before it arrives

Edited 17 September, 201510 yr by jonboyuk

The latter sounds like a recipe for embarrassment though?! I mean, having a keyless car might often equate to to a key that's not always immediately accessible.... (ie deep in a random pocket). Is it as awkward as I'm imagining? I'm awaiting my Fabia 1.2 TSI 110PS SEL and want to get my head around it all before it arrives

 

In the case of keyless it surely just means pressing the start/stop button rather than just the clutch

I seem to remember being a bit concerned about using a "stop/start" car, but the reality is, the system works seamlessly all/most of the time and with the 1.2TSI engine, when the engine shuts down, all you will notice is the rev counter has dropped to zero and a "A" symbol appears on the dashboard. Or, when the lights change, you depress the clutch and you are aware of a muffled noise as the engine starts up ready for when you select a gear and ease up the clutch. A lot of thought will have gone into working out how these systems need to work, so it is not rocket science - don't worry - my wife gets on with it okay now! The thought of it initially kept her from using the car as (often as)she normally did - which can't be bad!

In the case of keyless it surely just means pressing the start/stop button rather than just the clutch

 

I would have thought so but Threadbear said

 

Otherwise it tells me to "restart the engine using the ignition key"

 

 (if it won't restart with clutch)! And that's really good point rum4mo!

Quickest way is to not stall

After driving with cable-throttle control the electronic throttle takes some time to get used to, if at all?

 

There seems a 'dead-spot' that causes 'delay' problems when throttle depressed and it seems a 'modern' design thingo. I tend to 'blip' throttle to get going or else stall, sometimes.

 

Thinking of getting  an RTD TPS (Throttle Position Sensor) but it's some $395! http://www.carformance.com.au/rdt-tps.html It appears just an add-on and can be removed when a service required so Warranty not invalidated. Cheaper ones on eBay are worrying due to ill-repute?

 

Have turned-off the 'stop-engine' (when I can remember)  as concerned about starter-motor wear as mentioned below.

I'm sure that wife's new Polo 1.2TSI 110PS SEL has a AGM battery.

 

Finally correct answer, wife's new Polo1.2TSI 110PS SEL has a EFB technology battery (EFB stands for Enhanced Flooded Battery - ie a poor man's battery for a STOP/START car), better than bog standard battery but not as good a AGM battery when used in a STOP/START car.