This last week or so we've had a lot of rain locally, with lots of standing water and some seriously huge puddles.  On a few occasions I have been driving along with a reasonably clear view in front, but the view to the rear was seriously compromised by the spray being thrown up from my wheels.  It might have been useful to have had my rear fog light on to help drivers behind see me, however in order to do that I would have had to have my front fogs on as well, which wasn't warranted by the visibility conditions ahead.

 

Please don't do that. If you can see the car in front safely, then the car behind can see you safely.

 

I have never yet been in Rain (not fog) conditions where I have not been able to safely see the car in front. Spray or not.

 

And as a driver of a low/small car as well as my Yeti, I can say just how annoying/borderline dangerous it is when bright lights shine directly into my retina which are at a lower level than many other car drivers.

 

The regulations are set to use foglights in "Fog" - nothing else. The clue is in the name.

Our Volvo doesn't have front fogs or the option for them; maybe fog to the front is not a Scandinavian thing However agree that the type of switch employed by VAG does limit the drivers choice when it comes to lighting.

Back to the V40, then my main gripe lighting wise is there's nothing on the dash to confirm the lights are on, which in auto particularly, I find frustrating in daylight inclement weather, although selecting rear fog puts them on by default.

TP

Dont volvos just have their headlights on all the time? Or have they stopped doing that?

Cant think ive noticed

Please don't do that. If you can see the car in front safely, then the car behind can see you safely.

I have never yet been in Rain (not fog) conditions where I have not been able to safely see the car in front. Spray or not.

And as a driver of a low/small car as well as my Yeti, I can say just how annoying/borderline dangerous it is when bright lights shine directly into my retina which are at a lower level than many other car drivers.

The regulations are set to use foglights in "Fog" - nothing else. The clue is in the name.

Exactly!

It just makes it more difficult for the car behind as theyre dazzled.

My headlights don't go off when the fogs are on.

You can turn them off though, if you twist to sidelights.

The only time front fogs should really give a benefit is when the visibility is so bad ahead that headlights just reflect back and dazzle.

To the people who have front fogs and headlights on, its really doing bugger all benefit for them.

The regulations are set to use foglights in "Fog" - nothing else. The clue is in the name.

 

I thought the regulations stated they could only be used in conditions of seriously reduced visibility and didn't mention a particular weather type?

I thought the regulations stated they could only be used in conditions of seriously reduced visibility and didn't mention a particular weather type?

Less than 100m iirc.

If you cant see the back lights of the vehicle youre following.. You should probably put your rear fog on. Is how i judge.

But then youll more than likely get somebody behind following you too closely anyway, so.

But front fogs are a different matter

Edited 11 November, 201510 yr by fabiamk2SE

"seriously reduced visibility" is definitely the phrase used in regulation 27 of the RVLR.  Nowhere in the regulations is that term defined - not even under regulation 3 "Interpretation".

 

The 100m figure is mentioned in Highway Code Rule 226: "You MUST use headlights when visibility is seriously reduced, generally when you cannot see for more than 100 metres (328 feet)."

Edited 11 November, 201510 yr by ejstubbs

I think if headlights proved to be giving me a glare problem I would be using fogs front and rear........if the rears are too much of a glare to the vehicle behind, he's too close.

I think if headlights proved to be giving me a glare problem I would be using fogs front and rear........if the rears are too much of a glare to the vehicle behind, he's too close.

Yes. But theres no need for a rear fog if the driver behind clearly knows youre there.

I always turn my rear fog off as soon as a car catches up with me, but on a yeti this means turning the fronts off too. Pita.

Yes. But theres no need for a rear fog if the driver behind clearly knows youre there.

I always turn my rear fog off as soon as a car catches up with me, but on a yeti this means turning the fronts off too. Pita.

He can drop back then......he shouldn't feel comfortable being close enough to see simple rear parkers.

He can drop back then......he shouldn't feel comfortable being close enough to see simple rear parkers.

You can maintain a decent distance and still see them sometimes.

Its easier to see if there isnt a 21w bulb up the road

 but on a yeti this means turning the fronts off too. Pita.

 

Not on mine; nor any other Yeti I have so far driven...

Not on mine; nor any other Yeti I have so far driven...

I said that the wrong way round didnt i .

Fronts do nout if the headlights are on anyway. And i only want the backs 90% of the time that i feel i need fogs.

Im with the OP tbh. A seperate switch for fronts would be better.

But hey ho!

Rear fog glare is a problem when there is NO fog otherwise simply drop back........ps,I'm referring to serious fog, not just mist.

Rear fog glare is a problem when there is NO fog otherwise simply drop back........ps,I'm referring to serious fog, not just mist.

But so many use them when the fog isnt actually bad enough.. And continue to use them when its cleared, and into lamp lit towns.. The lot.

So many just forget about em i think.

You can turn them off though, if you twist to sidelights.

The only time front fogs should really give a benefit is when the visibility is so bad ahead that headlights just reflect back and dazzle.

To the people who have front fogs and headlights on, its really doing bugger all benefit for them.

 

I know.

I don't think I have used my front fog lights on the road more than two or three times since I've had the Yeti, and I think the rears the same. One of those times was in thick falling snow coming home from work one day.

 

I have however used them off road, when slowly driving rally stages at night, as they do help to pick out the bigger rocks in front of you!

Dont volvos just have their headlights on all the time? Or have they stopped doing that?

Cant think ive noticed

 

Our V40 seems to have only three lighting modes;

 

Domestic Christmas tree

 

Local town market square Christmas tree

 

Trafalgar square Christmas tree

 

 

 

TP

^ ^ yeah  but you do travel when all decent people are tucked up in bed, however don't know when they go home  ; - ))))))

Our V40 seems to have only three lighting modes;

Domestic Christmas tree

Local town market square Christmas tree

Trafalgar square Christmas tree

TP

Quite a seasonal motor then :D

^ ^ yeah  but you do travel when all decent people are tucked up in bed, however don't know when they go home  ; - ))))))

 

Does leaving home twice a week at 06:55 and getting back 15 hours later count   :wonder:  

 

(part of my weekly work shift)

 

 

TP

^ yeap you can join the club!

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