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I have a tdi vrs dsg with 8k on, I am getting around 42mpg currently on mostly short journeys. I have come from a 2010 Mondeo 2.0 diesel 163hp which was a bit heavier, my long term average was 47mpg, but when under 20k miles I averaged about 43mpg.

The vrs is noticeably quicker so I'm happy enough with 42 currently, I expect my long term average when I start doing longer journeys again and get 20k plus miles on to be high 40s.

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Sorry to hear about the poor MPG on diesels guys, should really be better. You could always use this as a good excuse to get petrol vRS instead !.....

 

ok I'll get my coat....... :)

Sorry to hear about the poor MPG on diesels guys, should really be better. You could always use this as a good excuse to get petrol vRS instead !.....

 

ok I'll get my coat....... :)

Whilst you are here.....what mpg do you get from the petrol?

In 30 months and over 26K miles my 2012 vRS CR DSG has averaged just over 44mpg calculated (the mpg readout seems to be about 5% optimistic).  On a recent run from Shrewsbury to Gloucester, mainly on the M54 and M5 the readout showed 54mpg, so probably nearer 51.  Skoda's official overall figure is 47.1mpg.  I usually re-fill the tank every 450 miles or so, although I have gone over 500 miles on a few occasions.

 

That sort of mpg is OK with me.  My last car, a 2005 Civic Type-S (2-ltre petrol 160hp) averaged 33mpg over 85K/7 years.  As Honda claimed 37.7mpg overall I didn't expect more than what I achieved.  The car was re-filled every 300 miles or so.

Whilst you are here.....what mpg do you get from the petrol?

My petrol averages about 31mpg, that's a mix of city and duel carriageways. The odd long motorway run it does about 35mpg. Although I didn't buy it for its fuel economy it's still disappointing.

Got a VRS 4x4 on order, maybe that'll be a bit better, not by much from what I'm reading here.

Whilst you are here.....what mpg do you get from the petrol?

 

Hard to say, but 30-35+mpg estimated but I do some shorter journeys. Manual 6sp TFSI by the way

It seems to have some potential for the claimed 40mpg if you were to drive steady at good pace for long enough without interuptions averaging out, so really not bad as I first thought and moderating your driving style and how you gear chance on the manual seems to make massive impact.

 

Its nowhere near as good as my fabia mk1 vrs diesel which has potential for more like estimated 60mpg, maybe real more like 50mpg depending on driving style etc. So I tend to still drive my Fabia a lot but I'm learning how to drive the manual petrol a bit differently which can impact the fuel economy a lot (more like my diesel tbh and changing up earlier)

 

I wonder if it makes any difference of time of year and quality of fuels. Any of you guys tried sticking to only the best stuff ? Makes very little difference on my old 1.9 but would be interesting with you guys newer CR diesels.

Hard to say, but 30-35+mpg estimated but I do some shorter journeys. Manual 6sp TFSI by the way

It seems to have some potential for the claimed 40mpg if you were to drive steady at good pace for long enough without interuptions averaging out, so really not bad as I first thought and moderating your driving style and how you gear chance on the manual seems to make massive impact.

Its nowhere near as good as my fabia mk1 vrs diesel which has potential for more like estimated 60mpg, maybe real more like 50mpg depending on driving style etc. So I tend to still drive my Fabia a lot but I'm learning how to drive the manual petrol a bit differently which can impact the fuel economy a lot (more like my diesel tbh and changing up earlier)

I wonder if it makes any difference of time of year and quality of fuels. Any of you guys tried sticking to only the best stuff ? Makes very little difference on my old 1.9 but would be interesting with you guys newer CR diesels.

I used to drive my Mk1 Fabia vRS like a bit of an idiot and never saw worse than 45mpg! It was a cracking little car, and I think the newer diesels, although more refined, just aren't as good!

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Well, after 1000 miles I'm averaging 37mpg which I feel is rubbish!! With all the modern technology I'd have expected mid 40's to start with then with a view of it going to be averaging 50mpg on a regular basis after it loosened up. My 5 speed 1.9PD Altea which was re-mapped to 140bhp was averaging 46mpg with over 170k miles on it - low geared & no eco gizmos!!

One of my colleagues has a 13 plate 160bhp Insignia and he averages mid/high 50's mpg with regular 90mph journeys!

 

And before I have the "what do you expect with a VRS?", well I expect it to be doing somewhere near to what the manufacturers actually claim! If economy wasnt a concern I'd have bought a nice revvy quiet petrol not the tractor engined version! Various high power BMW 4 cylinder diesels are easily achieving 50+mpg so its I feel I'm not unhappy without reason. Surely the whole point of a diesel version is for the extra economy?

On board pooter says in my newly acquired vRS diesel estate on its trip back from the south coast to Chester yesterday, 58.3 mpg.

Mixed driving, first 60 miles on A roads, the rest on moorways until the last 50 miles of brisk and quiet driving on the A41, sticking to national speed limits with no harsh acceleration. 

I was WELL happy with that over 240 miles.

 

Today, motorway trip to the other side of Liverpool and back, stop start, stop start though the outskirts of the city center....47 mpg.

About what I'd expect.

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On board pooter says in my newly acquired vRS diesel estate on its trip back from the south coast to Chester yesterday, 58.3 mpg.

Mixed driving, first 60 miles on A roads, the rest on moorways until the last 50 miles of brisk and quiet driving on the A41, sticking to national speed limits with no harsh acceleration. 

I was WELL happy with that over 240 miles.

 

Today, motorway trip to the other side of Liverpool and back, stop start, stop start though the outskirts of the city center....47 mpg.

About what I'd expect.

 

Thats what I'd expect to be honest. If I get the same as the Altea I'd be happy even though with all the tech it should be 50+.......

8000 miles in and my long term is 39.5mpg, BUT I hasten to add, pretty much all of my miles are commuter miles. And by commuter miles I mean queuing on the M60, and spending an hour to cover 16 miles. So all in all it's not bad. I dread to the think what my equivalent mpg would be in the petrol.

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8000 miles in and my long term is 39.5mpg, BUT I hasten to add, pretty much all of my miles are commuter miles. And by commuter miles I mean queuing on the M60, and spending an hour to cover 16 miles. So all in all it's not bad. I dread to the think what my equivalent mpg would be in the petrol.

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I have a similar commute, 12 miles journey taking anything from 25 minutes to 50 minutes. In the TSI vrs I average around 33mpg maybe less. Long runs have shown significantly higher returns!

A large part of all the diesel tech is emissions related, and the improved economy claims are more from playing to the official consumption tests rather than real life improvements.

You can be sure their consumption tests did not include a regen in the middle of it.

 

Having said all that there are a pretty broad spread of real life consumption results for the diesel reported in this forum although the really good results are nearly always in ideal open road running conditions  and the poor results include constant short runs and probably constant non-completed regens.

 

Individual driving styles can also make up to 30% difference in economy results for the same car and route.

Test the accuracy of the speedometer and odometer against a GPS (they may out by a little or a lot).

Compare the maxidot reported economy results against real consumption for a few tanks (be consistent with refill procedure) and you get an idea of much you can trust it. Particularly important if the car has been re-mapped or has performance override unit attached as results can be optimistic. 

 

The only way you really see if your car has a problem to be addressed is to test in conditions with as many variables eliminated as possible.

So try and find a free flowing road in relatively flat terrain, engine warmed up and calm weather conditions, reset the 'local trip' parameters and drive at a steady speed for a reasonable distance (say 10 miles), preferably with aircon on. Record the reported results for economy and average speed and ideally repeat the process in the reverse direction to eliminate height of start/finish points.

 

Depending on average speed and all the other factors you have tested for then if you are not getting 50 to 60+ mpg I think there is something worth investigating or reporting

Maybe anyone of the innumerable sensors, binding brakes, injection system etc. There are just so many things that can go wrong but still drive reasonably well.

 

I think that all Octavii (is that the plural?) are all potentially really good cars and it is a shame if a major fault (manufacturing or otherwise) spoils the ownership experience.

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