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Am I right in thinking that I should get GPS map updates on my Yeti up to its 3rd birthday but after that they need paying for?

I suspect my Yeti's next service will be due just after the car turns 3, so if this is the case then if want to do the updates sooner rather than later.

Can anyone advise what the current map version is and possibly when the updates become available?

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  • I usually step aside and let unpleasantness pass me by.  In this case, I thought your post didn't come over well but - hey ho, these things happen.    So I salute you, Rustynuts, for being man enoug

  • Unless you can bully the dealer into providing you with a paid update for free (or it was a condition of the sale and documented in writing when purchased) then you'll have to hand over hard earned fo

  • I spent £100 on a Garmin sat nav and get FREE updates for life  I spent £23000+ on a Yeti and Skoda expect me to pay £170 for a map update.Something is wrong................

Wouldn't it be a matter of 3 updates and not BY the 3rd birthday?.

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I don't know; that's one of the reasons I'm asking.

If it's 3 updates then there's no rush at all

I always thought that you can update as many times as you want, just as long as its within the 3 years etc of warranty? I could be wrong! 

 

you can get the map updates from here

 

http://updateportal.skoda-auto.com/en-GB

 

enter your Vin No: & the rest is simple, just follow the instructions, or take a look here:

 

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/377539-amundsen-mib1-map-updates-are-now-available/

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I think they only do annual ones.

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I always thought that you can update as many times as you want, just as long as its within the 3 years etc of warranty? I could be wrong! 

 

you can get the map updates from here

 

http://updateportal.skoda-auto.com/en-GB

 

enter your Vin No: & the rest is simple,

"There were no software updates for the VIN"

 

Doesn't this only work on the latest generation devices (new Octavia and Superb) that have a different map licencing agreement to the earlier ones (including those in the Yeti)?

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I think they only do annual ones.

 

Having followed BATVANVRS's link there appears to have been a Nov 15 update and the next is scheduled for June 16, but that might not apply to my device

"There were no software updates for the VIN"

 

Doesn't this only work on the latest generation devices (new Octavia and Superb) that have a different map licencing agreement to the earlier ones (including those in the Yeti)?

 

Argh I would not know to be honest, I thought it would of been the same but then again, I only know the way I showed as I have a Octavia

 

Having followed BATVANVRS's link there appears to have been a Nov 15 update and the next is scheduled for June 16, but that might not apply to my device

 

Maybe it is annually as per Ryeman post? Sorry bud that I could not help  :|

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At three years old your Amundsen Plus is not eligible for the free online maps updates. That's for the new generation Amundsen (and also Columbus) MIB units. Your options are simply pay for a new SD card with a single use maps update, cost about £170 from a dealer or cheaper for older versions on ebay, but you must buy a new card. If it's been inserted in another Amundsen Plus unit then it'll be locked to that unit and no use to you.

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At three years old your Amundsen Plus is not eligible for the free online maps updates.

 

But it's not yet 3 years old...

But it's not yet 3 years old...

Don't pick a sentence out of my post and quote it to try and make a non valid point. Take the whole post in it's entirety and understand what was written. If your car is fitted with the earlier version Amundsen Plus (and we'll take it that it is, because that's the title you gave the thread) rather than the second generation Amundsen then it will not qualify for the free maps updates, irrespective of age. The free online updates are not for the Amundsen Plus unit, but for the next generation MIB Amundsen unit.

 

As you've already tried the online update and received the message that there are no updates for your car, then that would confirm that you do indeed have an Amundsen Plus unit and therefore you will need to pay for maps updates.

I thought it was Yeti owners who were supposed to be the grumpy ones?

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Don't pick a sentence out of my post and quote it to try and make a non valid point. Take the whole post in it's entirety and understand what was written. If your car is fitted with the earlier version Amundsen Plus (and we'll take it that it is, because that's the title you gave the thread) rather than the second generation Amundsen then it will not qualify for the free maps updates, irrespective of age. The free online updates are not for the Amundsen Plus unit, but for the next generation MIB Amundsen unit.

 

As you've already tried the online update and received the message that there are no updates for your car, then that would confirm that you do indeed have an Amundsen Plus unit and therefore you will need to pay for maps updates.

 

OK, I'll not pick out a sentence as long as you go back to the original question which didn't at any point mention online free updates.

 

I've believed for ages that the on-line updates only apply to the latest generation devices, but as the link was posted up I thought I'd give it a try just in case Skoda had negotiated a revised licencing deal. But nothing had changed, so I can't do an online update. That's what I suspected.

 

I was under the impression that the dealer would do free updates in the workshop on the older units whilst the car was less than 3 and that's what I was trying to confirm. As far as i am concerned, you are 100% totally right that I can't get free updates online, however are you asserting that despite the car being less than 3, the dealer won't update the maps and I need to pay for updates?

Unless you can bully the dealer into providing you with a paid update for free (or it was a condition of the sale and documented in writing when purchased) then you'll have to hand over hard earned for the maps update. Unlike the Columbus where the dealer could buy a disc and update customers cars as they saw fit for no further cost, each Amundsen Plus unit needs a paid for update at a cost of (retail) £170 or thereabouts. Given the cost to the dealers at (lets say half that amount just as an example) £85, I doubt they're going to do that for free on a customer service, as that would wipe out a large chunk of the profit they would be making.
 

I'm happy to be proved wrong, and by all means have a go at the dealers and see if they'll budge, but I'm not certain you'll get anywhere unless you're a very good customer or they're in a happy mood. :thumbup:

 

And I apologise for my abrasive tone. It was unnecessary.  :x

I was under the impression that the dealer would do free updates in the workshop on the older units whilst the car was less than 3 and that's what I was trying to confirm.

As has been pointed out, the dealer may at time of service update any software/firmware that is necessary but will not for free update the maps on an Amundsen unit.

 

The only free map updates available are for the Amundsen II units and that has to be done by the owner, it's not part of the dealer service.

PS: after Skoda have eventually decided that the Amundsen II is eligible for free map updates it now looks like it is a free for life not just 3 years now.

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Thanks Rustynuts and Urrell,

I thought the Amundsen and Amundsen plus were free for 3 years and Amundsen II was free for life but I stand corrected.

Looks like I needn't worry about free updates as there isn't one and I'll use my phone, a tablet or one of my free for life Garmins when the Amundsen starts to struggle

I thought it was Yeti owners who were supposed to be the grumpy ones?

That's what I thought and Christmas is over! :D

Thanks Rustynuts and Urrell,

I thought the Amundsen and Amundsen plus were free for 3 years and Amundsen II was free for life but I stand corrected.

Looks like I needn't worry about free updates as there isn't one and I'll use my phone, a tablet or one of my free for life Garmins when the Amundsen starts to struggle

Yes, it's a bit frustrating when you have a nice built-in sat nav and you have to pay a substantial amount for updates. I have a DVD based one in the TT and I won't be updating that.

 

I bet that only a small percentage of VW Group customers have regularly updated their discs/SD cards, if at all, and the penny has finally dropped with VW Group? 

 

Free updates is how it should be when you've already paid a premium for the unit. Even a more reasonable amount would be acceptable but not the extortionate amount they want.

.....And I apologise for my abrasive tone. It was unnecessary.  :x

 

I usually step aside and let unpleasantness pass me by.  In this case, I thought your post didn't come over well but - hey ho, these things happen. 

 

So I salute you, Rustynuts, for being man enough to realise it and come back to apologise :clap:

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I usually step aside and let unpleasantness pass me by.  In this case, I thought your post didn't come over well but - hey ho, these things happen. 

 

So I salute you, Rustynuts, for being man enough to realise it and come back to apologise :clap:

 

Indeed and I was a little short too - and I should have been clearer in my original post!

OK,Gentlemen - all friends again 

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Everyone's getting a hug except whoever it was at Skoda that thought customers would be happy spending £170 for a map update

I spent £100 on a Garmin sat nav and get FREE updates for life  I spent £23000+ on a Yeti and Skoda expect me to pay £170 for a map update.Something is wrong................

I get free traffic, speed cams and any world map plus quarterly updates all free. (TomTom)

The manufacturers are just slow to meet market expectations with regard to ICE / Nav tech.

VW have obviously realised (at last) that many customers won't specify their expensive sat navs if they also have to pay for expensive updates when there are alternatives available.

 

The thing I really like about my Garmin (that I use on the bike and in the car) is that I can plan a route on the PC and then download it to the sat nav, which for holidays and trips is all part of the fun.

 

You can do it to a limited extent with in-car units using way-points but it would be hard work and only any good for relatively simple routes.

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