I think this year is Rosbergs myself.

 

It is and has been Mercedes last three years due to them getting the jump on the others with the V6 1.6 litre turbo development and hence the two drivers leading and being second in the championship have not been the best drivers on the track.

 

It could could be an awful end to an awful season if Lewis gets another bad start and Rosberg just disappears off in the distance due to his superior car which has been the prevailing story.   

It would be a more awful end to another awful season if Hamilton wins the championship.

The decline of F1 is alarming.

It would be a more awful end to another awful season if Hamilton wins the championship.

The decline of F1 is alarming.

 

Thank God we have MotoGP, Superbikes, and even WEC, WRC, WTCC and Formula-e and a big change in F1 where engines will be less important and aero more so.

 

Mr Metronome in MotoGP ie Jorge, had a good go in the Mer.......

 

Thank God we have MotoGP, Superbikes, and even WEC, WRC, WTCC and Formula-e and a big change in F1 where engines will be less important and aero more so.

 

Mr Metronome in MotoGP ie Jorge, had a good go in the Mer.......

 

Agree with you as other forms of racing often offer a lot more excitement for significantly cheaper spectator prices.

DTM is one other such example, but sadly I note that engine sizes are being reduced to sensible size turbo units in 2017 as another money saving measure.

Agree with you as other forms of racing often offer a lot more excitement for significantly cheaper spectator prices.

DTM is one other such example, but sadly I note that engine sizes are being reduced to sensible size turbo units in 2017 as another money saving measure.

 

DTM seems to go lots of other counties now, perhaps a change of name and maybe a few other names involved ie Infiniti, Jag etc?

 

DTM presumably staying in DTM even though with all their problems on their road cars Audi-VW are pulling out of WEC and WRC and hopefully other brands will join in these championships.

 

Paddock access is great in most championships with F1 being the most expensive, pretentious and least access and the others much better in all these respects.   

RESPECT, to Niki Lauda for saying it like it was.  Lewis tried to do the dirty and was not racing to win but backing up Nico. (paraphrase.)

Nico Rosberg - World Champion.

 

Hmmmmmm... The worst World Champion since Damon Hill? Just a thought ...

As retirement gifts go, Williams giving Massa his F1 car is a pretty good one!

RESPECT, to Niki Lauda for saying it like it was.  Lewis tried to do the dirty and was not racing to win but backing up Nico. (paraphrase.)

Doing the dirty or playing tactically? Yes he was backing them up but that doesn't mean Vettel and Verstappen would have got passed Rosberg. Bit of a desperate move but we've seen a lot worse on the last GP of the season.

Congratulations to Rosberg.

Congrats to Nico. Better driver didn't win in the end but he did take advantage of Hamilton's issues. Reverse the roles and I'm sure Rosberg would do the same. Roll on 2017 where hopefully a couple of other teams will be in the mix

Great that Nico won , deserved champion rather than the spoilt bratt who sulks if he has not won , used to be a fan when his Dad managed him , was he even there today

Lewis was not racing to win?

Apart from the fact he won!

Thanks for your valuable observation Ski

Edited 27 November, 20169 yr by camelspyyder

Hamilton won at the slowest possible speed. As Fangio, the greatest ever, always aimed to.

Statistically JV or JB must be the worst champ since Damon (who in retrospect was actually pretty good)

Edited 27 November, 20169 yr by camelspyyder

I'm amazed anyone questions the tactics used, what they're all there to win a world championship, not to make friends. If any of those other drivers were in Lewis' position then they'd do the same. Hell if I was Lewis, I'd rather lose the race trying to win the WC than win the race and lose the WC.

 

Being an F1 driver at the top of his game and getting upset and angry doesn't make the guy a spoilt brat, I dont think any of us can understand the work that they put in and the emotions they go through. I suspect it's not as easy driving round in circles as it looks, plus lets be honest, Nico and the majority of them all have their diva moments. 

 

Anyway, when all is said and done, Nico made the best of what he was given, yes he had some luck with engines lasting well compared to Lewis' but thats all part of the game, he drove well and deserved it. While he might have a car advantage like many world champions have before, they still need to drive and win the races, it's not just handed to them on a plate. Not only that, lets be honest, Lewis is the man to beat at the moment, so for Nico to say he's beat him with equal machines is even more of a credit to him.

 

Personally I'm gutted Button didn't make it to the end, top guy and my choice driver to support since he's been in F1. I might have to watch that Canadian GP on sky at some point this week.

 

I'm more excited as to what next season holds, quite often once a driver has their first WC under their belt they relax a bit, Nico could up his game now, which would be great for a spectacle, especially if the rest close up too. 

Edited 27 November, 20169 yr by matt1chelski

Both were employees picking up wages.  One is there for the team to have the best driver and publicity, and the other is the favoured son destined to win.

So one wealthy winner lost this year and looks like the spoilt brat he is. The other spoilt brat is the World Champion.

Edited 27 November, 20169 yr by Offski

I'm amazed anyone questions the tactics used, what they're all there to win a world championship, not to make friends. If any of those other drivers were in Lewis' position then they'd do the same. Hell if I was Lewis, I'd rather lose the race trying to win the WC than win the race and lose the WC.

 

Being an F1 driver at the top of his game and getting upset and angry doesn't make the guy a spoilt brat, I dont think any of us can understand the work that they put in and the emotions they go through. I suspect it's not as easy driving round in circles as it looks, plus lets be honest, Nico and the majority of them all have their diva moments. 

 

Anyway, when all is said and done, Nico made the best of what he was given, yes he had some luck with engines lasting well compared to Lewis' but thats all part of the game, he drove well and deserved it. While he might have a car advantage like many world champions have before, they still need to drive and win the races, it's not just handed to them on a plate. Not only that, lets be honest, Lewis is the man to beat at the moment, so for Nico to say he's beat him with equal machines is even more of a credit to him.

 

Personally I'm gutted Button didn't make it to the end, top guy and my choice driver to support since he's been in F1. I might have to watch that Canadian GP on sky at some point this week.

 

I'm more excited as to what next season holds, quite often once a driver has their first WC under their belt they relax a bit, Nico could up his game now, which would be great for a spectacle, especially if the rest close up too. 

Sums up my thoughts perfectly. Loads trying to take the moral high ground but if it was me I'd do the same and if I was Nico and it had got even tighter at the end I'd have even thought about misjudging a braking point and causing a double DNF.

The majority of WDC are barstewards and you have to be a bit selfish to win. There are very few nice guy champions. I'm always amazed people have a go at Hamilton for not liking things when they don't go his way. He's human as we all are and I'd think there was something wrong if any driver didn't react. Vettel does it, Alonso does it and both of them are former champions. Most of us would be just as down as him when he's as low points. I'd say today he was pretty professional and the backing up is racing tactics. Racing isn't always fair and tactfully going faster in the overtake spots added to the drama. Lorenzo tried doing that before in MotoGP, it didn't work out and Marquez won but it was worth a go.

Perhaps Nico should have taken some precautions, like, say, writing "Lewis Hamilton #44" on Max Verstappen's front uprights?

RESPECT, to Niki Lauda for saying it like it was.  Lewis tried to do the dirty and was not racing to win but backing up Nico. (paraphrase.)

 

Unfortunately, it proves that Nico shouldn't be World Champion and what a bunch of hypocrites Mercedes are. Why didn't Nico overtake Hamilton if he was going so slow - if he was worthy of being WC he would have had a go.  - he had nothing to lose, but he didn't even try.  I not a Hamilton fan at all  (in fact not a fan of the Mercedes team at all.) but he was unfortunate not to win this year - after all he had the most wins - but poorer reliability.

Unfortunately, it proves that Nico shouldn't be World Champion and what a bunch of hypocrites Mercedes are. Why didn't Nico overtake Hamilton if he was going so slow  - he had nothing to gain.  I not a Hamilton fan at all  (in fact not a fan of the Mercedes team at all.) but he was unfortunate not to win this year - after all he had the most wins - but poorer reliability.

Factual error corrected.

Statistically JV or JB must be the worst champ since Damon (who in retrospect was actually pretty good)

 

I meant as a racing driver rather than the record book. JV's dad is the driver I admire most and the one who "was clearly operating without a safety net" (can't remember who said that - Jody Scheckter perhaps?). JB needed the planets to align to be on top, but when they did he was indeed untouchable. Damon? He couldn't overtake for toffee but JV's overtake of Michael Schumacher around the outside of the last corner at Estoril took HUGE BALLS (for the younger generation, go and watch it on YouTube). So, camelspyder why do you reckon Damon is better than either JV or JB?

Damon raced Schuey 1 on 1 at Suzuka in the wet in 94 and won. Until then I was sceptical but he beat the best that day and deserved recognition for it. The title was on the line that day too.

JV only won a title with Frentzen on the other Williams. Then never won for any other team

Damon's at least the equal of JV.

Edited 28 November, 20169 yr by camelspyyder

Both were employees picking up wages. One is there for the team to have the best driver and publicity, and the other is the favoured son destined to win.

So one wealthy winner lost this year and looks like the spoilt brat he is. The other spoilt brat is the World Champion.

Why are you so bitter? They are both millionaires. You may or may not be - we haven't met yet. But you come across as very jealous. Some are born with a silver spoon (nico) others aren't (me you? Lewis?)

Damon raced Schuey 1 on 1 at Suzuka in the wet in 94 and won. Until then I was sceptical but he beat the best that day and deserved recognition for it. The title was on the line that day too.

JV only won a title with Frentzen on the other Williams. Then never won for any other team

Damon's at least the equal of JV.

 

Ah yes, Damon in the wet at Suzuka 94 - his finest race ever? I admit I had forgotten that one - I blame my age! :-) Wasn't that the race of 2 parts with the result declared with the times of the 2 parts? Made for compelling viewing (assuming I have the right race in mind).

 

To be fair to JV he went off to BAR which was not a great move!