After 37,000miles on OME tyres (dunlop sports

I made a decision between GOODYEAR EFFICIENTGRIP PERFORMANCE £62 and Dunlop SP Sport BluResponse £57 based on price (same Euro performance

 

However this week they are literally price reversed????

 

Will advise how these perform over the coming weeks/months

Interested to hear how you get on. Personally I'm eyeing up a set of Michelin CrossClimate all weather tyres (which will enable me to get rid of my winter tyre set).

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What size is this for? Seems really cheap!

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What size is this for? Seems really cheap!

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Judging by the price and the OP's thumbnail pic, I suspect he (like me) has 15inch wheels.

Edited 28 January, 201610 yr by chrisgreen

Judging by the price and the OP's thumbnail pic, I suspect he (like me) has 15inch wheels.

I thought as much. Im already wondering how much it will cost for a couple of 17" tyres.

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^^^^ Search out Kumho in your size (17") Blackcircles is a good check on price. I paid £300 for 4 (fitted) last year, they are a good tyre and had them fitted on my MX-5.

As above - 17inch boots are not particularly expensive (and prices are falling as a result of more small cars shipping with big wheels). When I had the C4 (with 17s), I was paying about £88 a corner for decent tyres. Prices have been steadily falling over the last two years since my last 17inch boot purchase.

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Both tyres rate pretty well on tyrereviews.co.uk

 

Goodyear is a little more modern and gets a slightly higher overall score but both get around 80%, with high scores for Dry and Wet grip and Comfort too, so considerably better than the low 60% that your OEM Dunlops rated.

Edited 29 January, 201610 yr by camelspyyder

36,000 miles is very good on Factory tyres??!!

 

I've got 17" Continental Premium Contact I think they are, definitely Conti's - 20,000 miles so far and they are showing wear now!

Same Contis on mine were slightly wearing the shoulders on the fronts at 16000, Swapped them front to back to even up the wear - the handling and braking stability are much improved.  Currently sat on 20000 as well.

 

Our other car has Dunlop SP Sport Fast Response on it with 7000miles.  Tyres are quiet, nice grip and good ride - no signs of wear. A lot better than some other Dunlop options - like the Rapid's OE Sportmaxx.

Edited 29 January, 201610 yr by camelspyyder

My Rapid has 16s and is on Bridgestone Turanzas. Theres no noticeable wear to the tyres, but there are already some cracks appearing in the treads. The tyres are date stamped week 34/2014, so shouldn't be deteriorating yet. I will be raising this with my dealer at the first service.

Which ones?  

 

There are 3 different Bridgestone Turanzas in your size with markedly different scores on tyre reviews?

Edited 29 January, 201610 yr by camelspyyder

the tyres are 185/60/15 H

the tyres are 185/60/15 H

Yep - that's the standard 15inch tyre config for the Rapid - 85 load rating.

Which ones?  

 

There are 3 different Bridgestone Turanzas in your size with markedly different scores on tyre reviews?

ER300s.

 

I seem to recall I had the same on my Fabia vRS new in 2005, and they were pretty shocking compared to the competition then. Fortunately my driving habits have changed since then

I'm amazed to find there are even 3 different ER300 Turanzas  - the Runflat reviews really badly, the ER300 seems OK on paper but it looks like there is an improved Turanza ER300 Ecopia which gets 83% (better than the 2 tyres at the Original Post) - I'm guessing you haven't got that one.

Edited 30 January, 201610 yr by camelspyyder

36,000 miles is very good on Factory tyres??!!

 

I've got 17" Continental Premium Contact I think they are, definitely Conti's - 20,000 miles so far and they are showing wear now!

You say it's good mileage on factory tyres, what's the difference to factory and tyres bought after? Especially if you buy the same ones.

It's not unusual for 'factory' spec to be softer rubber, designed to wear out faster. Like the ink cartridge that comes with a new printer that's only about 40% full compared with a new retail cartridge.

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I'm not so sure about that Chris.

 

I reckon Skoda will simply buy Michelin / Bridgestone / Continental from the lowest bidder for whatever size and spec is required at that tender point. I very much doubt the big tyre manufacturers will stake their reputations by supplying OEMs with inferior tyres.

You say it's good mileage on factory tyres, what's the difference to factory and tyres bought after? Especially if you buy the same ones.

 

I just meant 'factory' as in first set of tyres from the factory.

I'm not so sure about that Chris.

I reckon Skoda will simply buy Michelin / Bridgestone / Continental from the lowest bidder for whatever size and spec is required at that tender point. I very much doubt the big tyre manufacturers will stake their reputations by supplying OEMs with inferior tyres.

Nobody said anything about factory tyres being inferior, only faster wearing in some instances. The two are not the same thing.

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Nobody said anything about factory tyres being inferior, only faster wearing in some instances. The two are not the same thing.

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I don't understand then.

 

My Rapid Spaceback was supplied with Bridgestone Turanza ER300s.

 

Surely a Bridgestone Turanza ER300 fitted at Skoda's factory is the same as a Bridgestone Turanza ER300 I can purchase from Kwikfit?

 

Or are you suggesting Skoda chose to fit the Bridgestone Turanza ER300 because its known for wearing quickly?

Surely a Bridgestone Turanza ER300 fitted at Skoda's factory is the same as a Bridgestone Turanza ER300 I can purchase from Kwikfit?

Probably, but not definitely!

In some instances, some tyre makers will produce bulk 'variants' of their known tyre models for car maker line fitting only, made with softer compound rubber than the retail tyres they sell via Blackcircles, Kwik-Fit, National etc. They have the same names and core model numbers, look like the equivalent tyre you would buy retail, have the same tread pattern etc, they work just as well as the tyre you would buy retail (in fact, in colder climates like the UK, they will probably work better), but they wear out faster as a result of being a softer compound than normal - meaning you as the consumer will dip into the retail marker for new tyres sooner. Usually the only clue will be an obscure part number, or even a minor prefix or suffix to a part number.

The upshot for a tyre maker in producing such tyres and selling them to car makers at a good bulk price is that you, as a consumer, are more likely than not to buy the same brand that was on the car come replacement time (and it means your dealer has more chance of selling you said tyres at service time). Not all tyre makers do it (for example, Michelin does not make softer compound variants for production line fitting), not all car makers buy them, but it is a thing.

I can't stress the following enough - it's not illegal, unsafe or in any way compromising the car or its occupants.

Probably, but not definitely!In some instances, some tyre makers will produce bulk 'variants' of their known tyre models for car maker line fitting only, made with softer compound rubber than the retail tyres they sell via Blackcircles, Kwik-Fit, National etc. They have the same names and core model numbers, look like the equivalent tyre you would buy retail, have the same tread pattern etc, they work just as well as the tyre you would buy retail (in fact, in colder climates like the UK, they will probably work better), but they wear out faster as a result of being a softer compound than normal - meaning you as the consumer will dip into the retail marker for new tyres sooner. Usually the only clue will be an obscure part number, or even a minor prefix or suffix to a part number.The upshot for a tyre maker in producing such tyres and selling them to car makers at a good bulk price is that you, as a consumer, are more likely than not to buy the same brand that was on the car come replacement time (and it means your dealer has more chance of selling you said tyres at service time). Not all tyre makers do it (for example, Michelin does not make softer compound variants for production line fitting), not all car makers buy them, but it is a thing.I can't stress the following enough - it's not illegal, unsafe or in any way compromising the car or its occupants.

This is why I asked you if they are different, clearly you now say they are? Sounds a bit far fetched to me how do you know this?

This is why I asked you if they are different, clearly you now say they are? Sounds a bit far fetched to me how do you know this?

After he left the insurance sector, my dad worked in the car industry for a long time (senior exec at a major car hire company responsible for fleet acquisitions). The softer compound tyre situation I have explained was a recurring challenge the company had to contend with on many (not all) new vehicles. Alas, not a lot they could do as it all comes down to what a car maker can source at the right price and right quantity.

Going back to my original point, as previously stated - it's not always the case. For example, I don't believe the factory Dunlops on my Rapid were softer compound, given the slow rate of wear and the horrendous noise they made. Very glad to have seen the back of those.

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