"Daddy " Phantom....

[OutlawKen]

Few options you could consider

 

If in good nick get your arches rolled (something id like done but would need major metal surgery at same time)

You can get spring helpers which fit between your coils, designed for trailer and caravan towing but have a use in the modified world too.

Get a small amount of your wheel hub milled away but only if you would have enough left over to not cause strength issues

 

Or this option which is get some wear on those tyres and go for a falken next time lol

[sharkrider]

thanks for the advice.... been thinking on the options.... these NS2 track tyres are 310mm wide, even though they are still 225/40/18's.... my winters come in on the sidewalls from the rim so would miss the arch.... don't want to go back to the federal track tyres as they keep deforming... a change of tyre may be a necessity,but i don't want to do that either, these tyres are awesome!

 

helper springs are a possibility I suppose, Think I may have been sent the -30mm kit, I only wanted the -20mm kit... can't remember asking when I ordered them!

 

may just see how i go on, rarely I have 5 people in like i did today.... there isn't really any damage to the tyres, just a little "polishing", will see what my tame mech says at MOT time...

 

may have to miss the carousel at the nurburgring :(

[sharkrider]

Ross says to roll the arches a bit... going to see if my tame mech can sort it... 

 

sitting pretty now its settled though! 

 

[Wardy]

I'd get a lighter set of 17s on there, but that's just me!

 

Or in terms of what's possible for you, with least cost/hassle, why don't you just raise the height slightly on the new setup? Especially as it's likely to have settled a bit, since fitting.

[Paul thornton]

1 put 215 tyres on mine.

 

Wheels are et 32 and even with 5mm spacers it still doesn't catch 

[sharkrider]

mmmm all good solutions.... but loose my big 310mm wide track tyres that give so much grip .... nurburgring coming up in Sept!

 

a cheaper solution , AND allowing me to keep the big fat grippy tyres...... roll the arches.... wont take much , should cost a gazillion times less than new wheels/tyres ect ..... 

 

we will see  

[Wardy]

Or even easier... raise it a little 

[sharkrider]

would that be easier and less costly? surely that would mean new springs, I took months saving up for this suspension :( and the time taken to get into the suspension would cost more right? I couldn't just replace the rear springs, this is a matched and designed set, two different rear springs would ruing the balance.... even if I could find "helper" springs, the cost again to buy and install would be prohibitive :(

 

(Going to work in the Eunos this week!)

[Wardy]

Sorry mate, my mistake - I thought the kit you bought was height-adjustable 

[sharkrider]

1 hour ago, Wardy said:

Sorry mate, my mistake - I thought the kit you bought was height-adjustable 

nope, I went for a spring/damper kit, in the hope of keeping it comfy (which to be fair it is! lol...)

[Wardy]

Absolutely - in which case you're back to arch rolling as you were saying

[Paul thornton]

 

OK, maybe it touched a little bit.....

Edited 23 May, 2017 by Paul thornton

[OutlawKen]

https://www.towsure.com/towing-spring-assisters?gclid=CM7lrZGQiNQCFakV0wod3DUM3Q

 

Heres the things I was talking about, cheap but will upset the balance as I guess they would up the spring rate, thats if you can find a pair to fit between your coils

 

Before you roll the arches get your plastic liners trimmed back I little as that might give ya the gap needed, on the other hand might give ya metal on tyre

[OutlawKen]

Also dave who measured your tyres at 310mm wide? 225 is the width in mm so if were saying 235 on the rim that would make sense but a 12" wide tyre on a 8" rims abit odd

[Wardy]

I did think the same thing, about the tyre width - then forgot to post about it  

[sharkrider]

16 hours ago, Paul thornton said:

 

OK, maybe it touched a little bit.....

lol... now I feel a little better

[sharkrider]

6 hours ago, OutlawKen said:

Also dave who measured your tyres at 310mm wide? 225 is the width in mm so if were saying 235 on the rim that would make sense but a 12" wide tyre on a 8" rims abit odd

 

26 minutes ago, Wardy said:

I did think the same thing, about the tyre width - then forgot to post about it  

 

They are 225/40/18's,RR kept correct,  but NS2-R's are known to have a wider patch, the 310mm is from Nankangs own information.... you can see it, because the winters actually come in on the sidewalls and they are the same size (the wheels 9 inch wide) and these NS2-Rs have straight sidewalls on the 9 inch wheels....

 

track tyres...

 

 

winters..

 

 

I'm willing to bet the winters wouldn't catch....

Edited 24 May, 2017 by sharkrider

[sharkrider]

Oh and Ken, good advise there, I'll have a look at the plastic liner.... after doing a run at the weekend with 5 people in and stuff in the boot, it catched a couple of times, and you can see the mark on the tyre, but it hasn't damaged it, hasn't even worn the little bobbles on the tyre side ... maybe a look at the the inside edge of the arch is in order!

 

I will hand it to my tame mech to sort, because it needs new front brake hoses, some performance pads and fluid before the ring trip.....

[OutlawKen]

I think nangkang are including the side walls in the measurement cos 310mm is huge, your not wrong that they are wider but they aint 12 inches wide. That side once your back from the ring with a report on them they maybe on my shopping list

[Wardy]

The NS2 is certainly a squarer tyre, most more track orientated tyres are, to cope with higher cornering forces. 

 

So I get why these would catch where other tyres in the same tyres might not. But they can't be the equivalent of a 310; it's not a Lambo 

[sharkrider]

25 minutes ago, Wardy said:

The NS2 is certainly a squarer tyre, most more track orientated tyres are, to cope with higher cornering forces. 

 

So I get why these would catch where other tyres in the same tyres might not. But they can't be the equivalent of a 310; it's not a Lambo 

lol... true.... I have just thought about the actual numbers and I'm being stupid  swore i saw it on a table on the nakang website!

 

but deffo a bigger contact patch... Ken, I will let you know after the ring... I cannot find the limit on the road, I would be arrested! I always used the federals before, but the last 2 sets have effectively gone oval and I have had to throw them before they wore out.... hopefully these will stand up to abuse better! I will report back  

 

I'm not ****ing driving round the outside of the carousel though, (have to just throw it into the camber! lol)  i will have to sort the rubbing issue, after the suggestion of the arch liner, i have had a poke under, and there is LOADS of plastic arch liner that would be the first touch of the tyre... the actual arch seems well clear  

[sharkrider]

suspension has settled, happy with the ride height  

 

 

also fixed my rear speaker issue, swopped out old for new.... not that you can tell the difference! it worked though, i have decent sound back now

 

[sharkrider]

car is misfiring on tickover...... its at the tame mechs being looked at :( I hope to God its not serious :( can't be doing with this now the bloody eunos has a rotten sill :(

[sharkrider]

well, thankfully nothing major, they scanned it, and no issues (apart from anomalous readings due to remap!)  changed a coil pack (using the spare i carry with me, knowing 1.8t problems!lol) and it fixed it! it was blowing lots of nasty black smoke out on tickover ... now cured!

 

 

Edited 14 June, 2017 by sharkrider

[Wardy]

Phew....