FL xenon retrofit

[langers2k]

Took the plunge and decided to do add xenons to my FL elegance as I wanted more light and travel mode. The biggest factor was to keep it road-legal and avoid any risk to the BCM which ruled out the H7 drop in kits completely.

 

Fitting wasn't too bad, I did it in three stages and it probably took about 12 hours of relaxed work. I was still using the car so had to reassemble and keep it together enough to drive between each stage which added time too. Took a few pictures along the way to give an idea what's involved.

 

First stage was front/rear level sensors and wiring into the passenger compartment.

 

Second stage was fitting the AFS module and wiring it to the sensors/CAN/power.

 

Third stage was fitting the extra wiring to the headlights, the headlights themselves and new dash dimmer switch without level control.

 

Coding and completing the basic settings was a five minute job, they now work exactly as the factory option.

 

First chance to try them tonight and they work great! Much more light on the road and AFS works really quite well. I suspect they might be aimed slightly high but I wasn't flashed so it might be the extra throw I'm not used to. Haven't bothered with beam shots as they look like any other stock FL Octavia with factory xenons...

 

As I suspect someone will ask, the total cost was about £650 which happens to be the same as the original factory fit option, not too bad in my opinion considering I fitted a pair of brand new HID bulbs at £100 (Osram Nightbreakers D1S). The car came with headlight washers and a BCM that supported xenons installed from factory so neither needed adding or replacing. For the level sensors/loom/dash dimmer switch and AFS module it was about £150. Headlights are completely dependant on where you source them, good condition RHD seem quite rare unfortunately - eBay and breakers are your best bet.

 

I had to tweak the wiring loom as it appeared to be for a bi-xenon Golf, if people are interested I can add a schematic for the loom I ended up fitting but it's basically taken from the factory wiring diagram. I didn't fit the wire shown on the WD between T26e/8 and T52c/52 as other cars with the same AFS controller didn't seem to have it, there are no errors shown and everything works as expected so I've no idea what it's purpose is! I also have an extra wire to each headlight so if I decide to go for a custom bi-xenon set up later I'll be able to control the shutter properly.

 

From what I understand, it should also be possible to enable AFSII as the module is running SW:0148. This will change the 'lighting cone' depending on speed and conditions rather than just levelling and bending. I'll add the coding later if I figure it out...

Edited 30 July, 2018 by langers2k
fixing pics

[Vegasphil]

Well done. Seems to be on a lot of Octy owners wish list. 

 

There are some Xenon Headlight units on ebay added today. I think they were about £150 each though! Item number 401086057768 and 401086058265

[Eddie-NL]

Nice Job, you beat me to it. If only the courier hadn't damaged the ones I bought

[langers2k]

I had to beat you to something Ed

 

I'm still thinking about a PLA2.0 kit but that'll probably be a summer job when things are a little warmer...

[MarkCasey]

How do you find out if a bcm supports xenons?

I've got 2010 vrs and would love to do this.

Thanks

Mark

[langers2k]

How do you find out if a bcm supports xenons?

 

From what I understand it's down to the BCM part number.

 

If it starts with 1K0 937 087 then I'm pretty sure it supports xenons.

If it has 084, 085, 086 instead of 087 then it'll need upgrading.

[thomasbham]

Is that self leveling make that hid kit legal? The head lights are certificated for h7 bulb up 2000lumens and 4000kelvis and reflector is not designed for it as well and finally there is no head light washers.

In my opinion it is still ilegal.

Edited 12 March, 2016 by thomasbham

[langers2k]

Is that self leveling make that hid kit legal? The head lights are certificated for h7 bulb up 2000lumens and 4000kelvis and reflector is not designed for it as well and finally there is no head light washers.

 

You might want to double check my original post

As you mention, ECE regs require self-levelling and headlight washers for light sources over 2000lm to make them road-legal.

- The FL elegance has headlight washers as standard.

- I've added the levelling system (as per the factory wiring diagram, using the same sensors, modules and coding).

- I've replaced the headlights with original xenon units.

 

They are unmodified genuine headlights - they take a D1S bulb, have a reflector designed for xenons and are E-marked as such. Now I've finished the retrofit, it completely matches any factory fitted xenon kit. All parts used (loom aside) are both genuine and type approved for xenon lighting on this car.

 

In my opinion it is still ilegal.

 

It is legal, I've met all ECE requirements just as a factory kit would. If you think I've missed something please let me know

Edited 12 March, 2016 by langers2k

[Phil-E]

100% legal!

 

Nice retrofit. Price isn't too bad I don't think especially with a set of decent new bulbs too.

 

And the benefits are worth the cost. More light output and not having to remove the headlights and fiddle with levers to adjust for driving abroad (something which we do at least once or twice a year).

[bigjohn]

 

And the benefits are worth the cost. More light output and not having to remove the headlights and fiddle with levers to adjust for driving abroad (something which we do at least once or twice a year).

 

Now I know how to convert my headlights for European driving it's only two minutes a side

Edited 13 March, 2016 by bigjohn

[Jony]

From what I understand, it should also be possible to enable AFSII as the module is running SW:0148. This will change the 'lighting cone' depending on speed and conditions rather than just levelling and bending. I'll add the coding later if I figure it out...

Hi Langers2k, 

 

I have coded my retrofitted Xenons to 1441884 - That gives me "Citylights" and "Motorway Lights"

In city lights, the left cone (I live I europe) turn all the way out to the left in speed between 15ish-40km/h and all of the road is illuminated.

I have tried to make a video of it here

https://youtu.be/Wo6mIZ9nxyQ

 

I motorway light, the length of the light increases along with speed

 

Can you tell me how you have coded your bcm?

Since I have retrofittet my xenon, I have lost the DRL's next to the fog lights!

 

[langers2k]

Hi Langers2k, 

 

I have coded my retrofitted Xenons to 1441884 - That gives me "Citylights" and "Motorway Lights"

In city lights, the left cone (I live I europe) turn all the way out to the left in speed between 15ish-40km/h and all of the road is illuminated.

I have tried to make a video of it here

https://youtu.be/Wo6mIZ9nxyQ

 

I motorway light, the length of the light increases along with speed

 

Can you tell me how you have coded your bcm?

Since I have retrofittet my xenon, I have lost the DRL's next to the fog lights!

 

 

Nice to see another factory style xenon retrofit

 

Did you get that code from Dmitriy?

 

I think I know how you lost the DRL, can you tell me what changes you made to the BCM? Even better would be an autoscan from VCDS if you have one!

[Jony]

No, I just stumbled upon this thread in German, and wanted to try it out when I finally got the retrofit done.

http://octavia-rs.com/index.php/thread/21292-1z-fl-afs-erweitern/

 

 

Wow, that could be really nice to get them back

I will make a new scan sometime in this weekend

[Jony]

I found a scan, not that old

 

Chassis Type: 1Z (7N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 20 25 37 42 44 46 4C 52 55 56
          62 69 6C 72 77

VIN:    

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
20-High Beam Assist. -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
4C-Tire Pressure II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (CAX)       Labels: 03C-906-016-CAX.clb
   Part No SW: 03C 906 016 E    HW: 03C 906 016 C
   Component: MED17.5.5       G   9970  
   Revision: LCH12---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000077
   Shop #: WSC 52498 001 1048576
   VCID: 21490306F869E716BBD-8074

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0001

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 0AM-300-04x.lbl
   Part No SW: 0AM 300 050 D    HW: 0AM 927 769 D
   Component: GSG DSG AG7     411 9060  
   Revision: 00041014    Serial number: CU501103025291
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 52498 001 1048576
   VCID: 2A5BE42A855F244EEA7-807F

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BE    HW: 1K0 907 379 BE
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0108  
   Revision: 00H31001    
   Coding: 113B201C092500FD880C04E5901C0040370C00
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00085
   VCID: 76E3005AC16730AEBEF-8023

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 3T0 907 044 BE    HW: 3T0 907 044 BE
   Component: Climatronic   H16 0402  
   Revision: 00006001    
   Coding: 0000000002
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00085
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_SK35.rod
   VCID: 76E3005AC96730AEBEF-8023

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 937 087 J    HW: 1K0 937 087 J
   Component: BCM PQ35  H   103 0615  
   Revision: 00103 AD    
   Coding: 40000AB8E00102C04008008830008BE0477C38A0417D8D205C8560200040
   Shop #: WSC 01723 013 01313
   VCID: 387FCE628BF386DE6C3-806D

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1Z1 955 119 D  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 02031  26  0601 
   Coding: 00DFB7

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 080311 05  54  0403 
   Coding: 0730ED

1 Fault Found:
01134 - Alarm Horn (H12) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 9
                    Mileage: 72170 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2061.14.18
                    Time: 18:37:56

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 13.70 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        Term 50 Off
                        OFF
                        OFF


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels: 1Z0-919-475-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 1Z0 919 475 E    HW: 7N0 919 475 
   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H06 0005  
   Revision: --H06---    Serial number: 28291105225955
   Coding: 310101
   Shop #: WSC 01723 013 01313
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA18SKxxx0000 001001
   ROD: EV_EPHVA18SKxxx0000_SK35.rod
   VCID: 4385A98ECA35D506C91-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 T    HW: 1K0 909 605 T
   Component: Q6 AIRBAG VW8   020 2300  
   Revision: 05020000    Serial number: 0038PC24CAKA  
   Coding: 0020790
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00085
   VCID: 3D71DF7664D1A3F6BF5-8068

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME5C560A26H

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME5C346F2AT

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HSME26566E05B

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HSME265D42134

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 501 AT    HW: 5K0 953 569 H
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   014 0140  
   Revision: FF010040    Serial number: 20110309200514
   Coding: 1892140000
   Shop #: WSC 01723 013 01313
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWS A01004
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWS.rod
   VCID: 7CF71272F74B6AFEC8B-8029

   Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3T0 959 537 A    HW: 3T0 959 537 A  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-URO  X03 X009 
   Coding: 830000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 1Z0 920 843 K    HW: 1Z0 920 843 K
   Component: KOMBI         H20 0420  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 110A01
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00085
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04089
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_SE36.rod
   VCID: 408FA682DB23CE1ED43-8015

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 C    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533  Gateway H37 0614  
   Revision:   H37       Serial number: 070311F1003688
   Coding: 352302
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00085
   VCID: 306FF64263835E9E243-8065

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 20: High Beam Assist. (J844)       Labels: 8K0-857-511.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 857 511 C    HW: 8P0 857 511 C
   Component: FLA           H04 0006  
   Revision: AA001002    
   Coding: 0201196B74745D545420363E00
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   VCID: 2E53E83A79B7486E36F-807B

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H20 0420  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03008
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_SE25.rod
   VCID: EADBA42A0DDF644EAA7-80BF

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 3T0 035 680 K    HW: 3T0 035 680 K
   Component: RNS-MID       H72 5269  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number:
   Coding: 00000400000100810000
   Shop #: WSC 13948 123 10485
   VCID: 387FCE628BF386DE6C3-806D

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3T0 051 859 AL
   Component: EU West V13  8348 

1 Fault Found:
00856 - Radio Antenna 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 38
                    Reset counter: 9
                    Mileage: 72136 km
                    Time Indication: 0


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MAX3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 AA    HW: 1T0 959 701 AA
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2119  
   Coding: 0000246
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00085
   VCID: 76E3005A016730AEBEF-8023

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 M
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 68     3201  
   Revision: 00H20000    
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00085
   VCID: 3467FA52579B62BE40B-8061

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 4C: Tire Pressure II
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MAX3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 S    HW: 1T0 959 702 S
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2119  
   Coding: 0000246
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00085
   VCID: 489FBEA23B13F65E1C3-801D

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Xenon Range        Labels: 5M0-907-357-V2.lbl
   Part No SW: 5M0 907 357 C    HW: 5M0 907 357 C
   Component: AFS-Steuergeraet    0142  
   Revision: 00H04000    Serial number:               
   Coding: 1507354
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00999
   VCID: 3467FA52579B62BE40B-8061

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 B
   Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul l    0004  
   Coding: 00000023

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 B
   Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul r    0004  
   Coding: 00000023

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 3T0 035 680 K    HW: 3T0 035 680 K
   Component: RNS-MID       H72 5269  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number:
   Coding: 00000400000100810000
   Shop #: WSC 13948 123 10485
   VCID: 387FCE628BF386DE6C3-806D

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3T0 051 859 AL
   Component: EU West V13  8348 

1 Fault Found:
00856 - Radio Antenna 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 38
                    Reset counter: 9
                    Mileage: 72136 km
                    Time Indication: 0


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 703 A    HW: 5K0 959 703 A
   Component: Tuer-SG         007 2101  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 1012565
   VCID: 326BFC4AAD8F6C8E527-8067

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 69: Trailer (J345)       Labels: 1K0-907-383-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 383 F    HW: 1K0 907 383 F
   Component: Towbar module H09 0100  
   Revision: 3A001001    Serial number: ÀÁ006789000000
   Coding: 0100000100000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 306FF64263835E9E243-8065

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 6C: Back-up Cam.        Labels: 5N0-907-441.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 441     HW: 7N0 907 441 
   Component: J772__Rearview      0020  
   Revision: 00H11000    Serial number: 525 PA8J330919
   Coding: 0030011
   Shop #: WSC 01723 013 01313
   VCID: EED3A83AF937886EF6F-80BB

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 704 A    HW: 5K0 959 704 A
   Component: Tuer-SG         007 2101  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 1012565
   VCID: 3365F94E52956586591-8066

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels: 7P6-035-730.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 L    HW: 7P6 035 730 L
   Component: TELEFON       H15 3200  
   Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00AAAA63112800
   Coding: 0010000000010110
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA 002720
   ROD: EV_UHVNA.rod
   VCID: 3B75D16EB2C5ADC6811-806E

No fault code found.

End   ---------------------------------------------------------------------

[langers2k]

I found a scan, not that old

 

Perfect, try changing byte 14 in "Address 09: Cent. Elect" from 8B to 91. You might need to do this manually as there won't be a checkbox for byte 14, bit 4.

 

Currently the car is coded to use pins C48/C49 to control the bi-xenon shutters, the Octavia hasn't got bi-xenon and instead uses these pins for the DRL

[Jony]

Perfect, try changing byte 14 in "Address 09: Cent. Elect" from 8B to 91. You might need to do this manually as there won't be a checkbox for byte 14, bit 4.

 

Currently the car is coded to use pins C48/C49 to control the bi-xenon shutters, the Octavia hasn't got bi-xenon and instead uses these pins for the DRL

 

langers2k, how can I ever thank you?

It worked like a charm, I am one happy camper, thank you!

 

Are you able to get the rearlight running with the front DRL's also?

 

Jony

[langers2k]

Are you able to get the rearlight running with the front DRL's also?

 

Yup, that's simple enough as have it turned on but unfortunately VCDS can't do it.

 

You'll need access to VAS-PC or ODIS-s, both should have guided functions to enable it. Otherwise you can also use VCP or ODIS-e to directly edit the BCM EEPROM to change the light configuration.

[Platlet]

Would his Xeon conversion work with my 2011 Octy Scout? Thanks

[langers2k]

Would his Xeon conversion work with my 2011 Octy Scout? Thanks

 

Sure, it's a different rear level sensor on a 4x4 model but the rest should be identical.

[Platlet]

Thanks for that

[gabi2004]

On 10.03.2016 at 22:48, langers2k said:

 

 

 

... if people are interested I can add a schematic for the loom I ended up fitting but it's basically taken from the factory wiring diagram. I didn't fit the wire shown on the WD between T26e/8 and T52c/52 as other cars with the same AFS controller didn't seem to have it, there are no errors shown and everything works as expected so I've no idea what it's purpose is! I also have an extra wire to each headlight so if I decide to go for a custom bi-xenon set up later I'll be able to control the shutter properly.

 

 

I am interested...thx

[langers2k]

@gabi2004 - the car in your profile looks like a pre-FL so it's unlikely to share the same parts/wiring as the FL.

 

Anyway, Berryman posted this on another forum to give a good idea what's needed.

[gabi2004]

yes it is pre fl with oem xenon...I will change everything...thx for diagram.

[trflorin]

Hello Langers2k!

I am in the process of retrofitting OEM xenon headlights to a Skoda Octavia 2 facelift and i'm in the process of sourcing components. 

What AFS module did you use? And why did you mount two leveling sensors. I know that after 2008, 5M0 907 357 C AFS modules use only one leveling sensor.

Thank you!

 

[langers2k]

@trflorin - Yes I used a 5M0 907 357 C and it can use either one or two levelling sensors depending on coding.

 

I fitted both as I wanted it to match factory fitted xenons. If Skoda/VAG thought it could level properly without a front sensor, they wouldn't have fitted one like on some Golf's