We have no import duties anymore and I guess that's why we have such a broad choice and relatively cheap pricing.

 

 

  :beer: 

'scuse the OT diversion, but our mining exports have basically tanked but our $A v £ has gone from 41p > 57.5p.........and transnational shareholders are taking our mineral and energy profits also

It's a strange time

'scuse the OT diversion, but our mining exports have basically tanked but our $A v £ has gone from 41p > 57.5p.........and transnational shareholders are taking our mineral and energy profits also

It's a strange time

Time to go on part time working until commodity prices pick up.

We have no import duties anymore and I guess that's why we have such a broad choice and relatively cheap pricing.

 

 

We have a 10% car duty in the UK/EU unless the country has a preference rate which would be 6.5% for a GSP country like Brazil or India but lots of countries get 0% such as Korea, Mexico and South Africa though I think only Korea sends us serious numbers of cars.  When UK leaves the EU we can go back to 10% or another rate for all these countries and even the remaining EU ones.

 

Dacias would be the least affected as they have the lowest import price I would reckon and they are offering up to 10% off their already cheap recommended price.

 

I would like to see electric cars have a lower or zero rate so the Teslas are cheaper. 

Edited 1 August, 20169 yr by lol-lol

('They' say we should stick to our knitting......that is NOT try to compete in mass production, but stick to education, financial and legal advise, which I call paper shuffling.

Seriously, are we expected to think Asians can't do their own banking/finance and legal work and that they will never have a satisfactory standard of education?.)

We don't get Dacias here )))))

Edited 1 August, 20169 yr by Ryeman

('They' say we should stick to our knitting......that is NOT try to compete in mass production, but stick to education, financial and legal advise, which I call paper shuffling.

Seriously, are we expected to think Asians can't do their own banking/finance and legal work and that they will never have a satisfactory standard of education?.)

We don't get Dacias here )))))

 

You are one of few places that do not.  In some markets it is badged as Renault ie South America, other market they do not want to call it Renault to keep the Renaultsport brand a bit more up market.

 

Here it us using the cheap labour ie $5 an hour and the previous technology ie the Nissan B platform which was used for the Renault Clio Mk 3 NV200, Juke etc.

 

Just saying Australia should not sell its iron ore etc cheap now but hold on to it to hopefully sell at a better price later although clearly composite and aluminium will be more the base material in future rather than steel.

 

How about Solar and Wind in Australia?  

 

RBA just cut cash rate to 1.5%.

 

Australian metal ore and mineral quarterly exports ($A millions) since 1969.

Edited 2 August, 20169 yr by lol-lol

I suspect Nissan has the pacific rim and has the say here.

I get 65c/kWh solar feedin rate but buying in only costs 34c, so currently we get power credits ie free energy........(for how much longer I'm not too sure though).....at least til end 2017.

...

 

Just saying Australia should not sell its iron ore etc cheap now but hold on to it to hopefully sell at a better price later although clearly composite and aluminium will be more the base material in future rather than steel.

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The transnational shareholders are effectively in control when it comes to selling iron ore to China .

Mercedes into aluminium for the C class

http://www.autonews.com/article/20160801/OEM01/160809990/mercedes-looks-to-add-aluminum-in-next-generation-c-class?cciid=email-autonews-weekly

Incredibly you can now get £750 off the Sandero and Sandero Stepway, as well as the Duster.

 

Total bargain.  

 

The Laureate spec and the 0.9 litre petrol is a fantastic combo as I have found in the Logan version, sadly only £500 off this model.

 

Considering the dire state of the pound compared to the Euro and the price rises in several other marques this is even more of a bargain that it already was!   

Edited 12 October, 20169 yr by lol-lol

The good thing about the Pound is that it is still 100 pence to the Pound, and say you have £10,000 of them and a Car Dealer has a car for sale advertised at £10,000 you can buy it, 

or maybe even buy it and still have money left.

So bargains are good and it is a Buyers market because they want your money even if it is dire when exchanging for a Euro, Forent, Krone, US Dollar or what ever.

You might as well buy now with your Sterling while all is good.

Edited 12 October, 20169 yr by Offski

Incredibly you can now get £750 off the Sandero and Sandero Stepway, as well as the Duster.

Total bargain.

The Laureate spec and the 0.9 litre petrol is a fantastic combo as I have found in the Logan version, sadly only £500 off this model.

Considering the dire state of the pound compared to the Euro and the price rises in several other marques this is even more of a bargain that it already was!

£750 contribution off of the downpayment if you're buying on finance at 7.9% apr.

£750 contribution off of the downpayment if you're buying on finance at 7.9% apr.

 

Yes but one is probably only borrowing £5K to £9K and so 7.9% of very little is not much at all.  One can always put as much as one can get away with on a credit card, if without a credit card charge, and put only 80-95% of the HP and one can pay off early without much heavy penalties I understand from their FAQs.

 

Zero and low interest rate deals are not freebies but subsidised by an over priced vehicle usually where a buyer is not getting the 20% discount that is offered to other cash or bulk buyers.  If the deal is for up to 5 years and it is estimated by many financial experts now that inflation will be around 3% in a year or so then 7.9%, which on particular cases actually works out less when you get the paperwork as it includes the admin fee calculated in for an average, or oft worse case calculation ie the cheapest car, so when actually done it comes out at around 7% and one can get 3% on a current account so not to bad.

 

I would also go for the Laureate spec so one gets aircon and go for the reasonably price media nav so it is package with music/phone & satnav.   New 125 hp turbo-petrol Duster looks particularly good, camera system like the Kadjur/Qashqai etc, DAB for the TMS cricket etc.    

Edited 12 October, 20169 yr by lol-lol

Found a PCP/HP calculator.....

 

http://www.pcpcal.co.uk/

 

If one uses the admin fee as the minimum deposit ie £149 in Dacia's case and a residual/buyback price one can see the monthly cost which seem to work out same as I pay for my Logan TCE Laureate with Media Nav ie £207 pm for a 20K miles per year, bit less than £3K to buy at the end of 3 years, for a car with aircon, media, phone connection, 7 inch screen sat-nav.  Only thing I did was to get a chunky steering wheel cover and OE is so thin for my big paws and changed to the 16 inch 205 wheel/tyres which feel and look much better.  Loving it, does 55 mpg, goes up to 110 mph, in (the hands of a driving professional on closed roads) lugs 600 litres of luggage and four adults with ease.  Found the diesel sluggish even though same HP. 

Edited 16 October, 20169 yr by lol-lol

@lol-lol

I had not seen anything about these but now i have i look forward to trying one sometime.

 

 

3 hours ago, e-Roottoot said:

@lol-lol

I had not seen anything about these but now i have i look forward to trying one sometime.

 

 

 

Not a turbo engine sadly so not that effecient.  Missed a trick here. Would have added a grand to the price but would have been awesome.

 

 

Surely Fuel efficiency and low emissions if genuine and achievable in the real world and not just under WLTP / RDE2 is more imported than turbine powered forced induction.

Edited 18 August, 20214 yr by e-Roottoot

1 hour ago, e-Roottoot said:

Surely Fuel efficiency and low emissions if genuine and achievable in the real world and not just under WLTP / RDE2 is more imported than turbine powered forced induction.

 

Torque not impressive, fuel consumption not impressive.

 

My Fabia is 88 gm/km, allegedly and does 60 to 75 mpg, NOX and PMs not so good.

 

If it was a one litre turbo petrol it could have been awesome performance.

 

If they want really good mpg they need to drop the engine size to the size of the Twin Air Fiat engine.

 

Currently mainstream car companies are stuck in their old tracks and not likely to survive and in ten years or so it will be all the Tech companies and possibly all the currently look will be consigned to the history bools for failing to innovate like Tesla has. 

 

@lol-lol what Fabia do you have?  Nice vid review just posted  today in the MK4 section on a 1.0 TSI DSG.      VW announced they were done with downsizing engines but then had nothing else ready to meet low emissions so have had to keep with them until they can get electrification done across the board.  Sadly still no small EV ready so the e-UP needs to go on a while longer. 

 

EDIT, i see Mk2 1.4TDI.  

 

I enjoyed driving a Niro with the 1.6 engine and hybrid.

Just a size / class /price up from the Clio Hybrid, & more room than a Captur.

Edited 18 August, 20214 yr by e-Roottoot

1 hour ago, e-Roottoot said:

@lol-lol what Fabia do you have?  Nice vid review just posted  today in the MK4 section on a 1.0 TSI DSG.      VW announced they were done with downsizing engines but then had nothing else ready to meet low emissions so have had to keep with them until they can get electrification done across the board.  Sadly still no small EV ready so the e-UP needs to go on a while longer. 

 

The Fabia I have is one of the first of the Mark 3, an SE but strangely seems to have a 5 speed gearbox matched with the 90 hp 1,422 cc diesel engine.

In the VCA database it is not mentioned, oddly, but the various check tools for Clean Air areas confirm it is Euro 6.

 

Having driven a 1.4 D in the Roomster a few ago, which was dreadful, I was very pleasantly surprised on the Fabia's get up an go as well fuel consumption of 60 to 75 mpg indicated.

Has Android Auto and is 5 star safety, I seem to recall it was car of the year in 2015.  Actually is a bit quicker than the 90 hp TCE Clio I have also.   

  

Been reading loads about the 62 kwh LEAF which is topping my next car at the moment now Rapid gate seems to be sorted.  A blue tooth VCD and Leafspy seems to be a no brainer as well.

Fabia 4 seems to miss a few tricks and no significant advantage over current models.  Did the 2021 Vienna engine symposium give out any winners of engine catergories ?

 

 

Manufacturer	Model	Description	Transmission	Engine Capacity	Fuel Type	Euro Standard	Emissions CO [mg/km]	Emissions NOx [mg/km]	THC + NOx Emissions [mg/km]	Particulates [No.] [mg/km]
SKODA	Fabia Hatchback	1.4 TDI 105PS	M5	1422	Diesel	6	147	54	91	0
SKODA	Fabia Hatchback	1.4 TDI 90PS	M6	1422	Diesel	6	200	38	76	0
SKODA	Fabia Hatchback	1.4 TDI 90PS 7speed DSG	D7	1422	Diesel	6	128	44	76	0.1

 

 

 

I had a look at this one on the Motability site  - DACIA DUSTER ESTATE 1.3 TCE 130 COMFORT 5DR

This car retails @ £16500. It would cost me the full mobility payment (approx. £240 p.m.) plus an advance payment of £1500!

 

Last time I looked I could get an Octavia MK4 1.5tsi manual (RRP approx. £23000) for the full monthly mobility allowance plus an advance payment of £500.

There are many higher quality and specced cars on the scheme available for a lot less money.

Can anyone explain the cost of a Dacia on the Motability scheme?

25 minutes ago, Tolpol62 said:

Can anyone explain the cost of a Dacia on the Motability scheme

Octavia has a higher residual?

As @KenONeillSays,  the high RRP vehicles Motability Finance are often very well discounted by Manufacturers wanting them first Registered, like £32,000 plus RRP's costing them £24,000 and 3 years later selling @ BCA for £14,000 plus. 

Motability has received near £9,000 from the person leasing plus any Advance Payments. 

 

They were dead generous this year and paid back £50 to people this year for money saved on the Group Insurance.

 

Lots of high priced EV's on the Motability list currently as manufacturers are desperate to get them First Registered. 

Low Advance Payments on them. 

 

Examples this quarter.

 

Edited 18 August, 20214 yr by e-Roottoot

Yeah that makes sense, I hadn't thought of that side of things.

Thanks guys, good info.

A proper SUV or USV.   A Utilitarian Sports Vehicle.

(If 7 seats are used then maybe a trailer required for carrying 'stuff', but that is the same as now with 'SUV's or so called 7 seat ones.

 

For families and individuals that want a properly built vehicle that they can have real world adventures in. 

One that you can maybe load stuff on the roof if not a giant or using a step ladder

 Not Faux roof bars fitted as with some cars.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Edited 9 September, 20214 yr by e-Roottoot

1 hour ago, e-Roottoot said:

A proper SUV or USV.   A Utilitarian Sports Vehicle.

(If 7 seats are used then maybe a trailer required for carrying 'stuff', but that is the same as now with 'SUV's or so called 7 seat ones.

 

For families and individuals that want a properly built vehicle that they can have real world adventures in. 

One that you can maybe load stuff on the roof if not a giant or using a step ladder

 Not Faux roof bars fitted as with some cars.

 

 

 

 

It looks like a rehash and rename of the Lodgy which is/was available and popular in mainland Europe  https://www.dacia.fr/gamme-vehicules/lodgy-monospace.html

 

I see Dacia scored fantastically well in the WhatCar reliability coming second overall behind Lexus and Skoda, SEAT, VW and Audi were mid table.

https://www.whatcar.com/news/2021-what-car-reliability-survey/n23397

 

Rank         Make and model 

1.Dacia Sandero 2013-2020  100%

2.Hyundai i10 2014-2020       99.6%

3.Suzuki Swift 2017-present  99.3%

4.Hyundai i20 2015-2020       99.0%

5.Honda Jazz 2015-2020        98.1%

6.Mini Hatchback petrol 2014-present96.9%

7.Ford Fiesta petrol 2008-201795.0%

8.Volkswagen Up 2012-present94.8%

9.Renault Clio 2013-201994.3%

10.Kia Rio petrol 2017-present94.0%

11.Kia Picanto 2017-present93.9%

12.Audi A1 petrol 2018-present92.2%

13.Skoda Fabia 2015-present91.7%

14.Vauxhall Corsa 2014-201990.6%

15.Seat Ibiza 2017-present90.5%

16.Volkswagen Polo 2018-present80.6%

17.Ford Fiesta 2017-present74.9%