What do you mean?

Today in the disabled parking places at Tesco there were 3 parked, a Blue, Metallic Yellow & an Orange one, 

i have seen several other ones that have just been on the road for the last 6 weeks or less. 

 

Edited 15 October, 20187 yr by Offski

2 minutes ago, Offski said:

What do you mean?

Today in the disabled parking places at Tesco there were 3 parked, a Blue, Metallic Yellow & an Orange one, 

i have seen several other ones that have just been on the road for the last 6 weeks or less. 

I am assuming that they are appealing to people leasing then from Motability.

I’m not sure I could put up with an efficient appliance.

What is inefficient if you just want a car to get about in?

Maybe not that fussy what you have as long as you can get in and out it and get to where you want to go, like to the shops, and places you usually drive to.

 

 

Edited 15 October, 20187 yr by Offski

^^^^ we are enthusiasts aren’t we George?.

(falling asleep at the wheel is a real possibility)

Enthusiasm killed by average speed cameras all around and the need to not lose ones licence.

Cars just a means of transport now, the fun has all gone and all that matters is the go round bends at 60 mph without lifting off and they nearly all do that these days.

 

& fuel @ £6.00 a gallon again and going up.

Electric is cheap still or free, parking can be as well.

Edited 15 October, 20187 yr by Offski

Just think of the e-books you’ll be able to read in your commuter pod.

The CO2 emissions balancing act -

http://www.autonews.com/article/20181016/OEM05/181019684/the-dirt-on-clean-evs-is-under-the-hood?cciid=email-autonews-daily

12 hours ago, Ryeman said:

The CO2 emissions balancing act -

http://www.autonews.com/article/20181016/OEM05/181019684/the-dirt-on-clean-evs-is-under-the-hood?cciid=email-autonews-daily

This is why I feel pollution tax is the future (similar to CO2 tiered tax systemof 2000's):

 

For example:

£300pa for diesel

£260pa for petrol

£200pa for traditional hybrids

£150pa for PHEV

£100pa for REx PHEV (i3 REx, Ampera)

£80pa for 80 or more kWh battery EV

£60pa for 55 to 79kWh battery EV

£40pa for 40 to 54kWh battery EV

free for sub 40kWh battery EV

 

40kWh enables 150 miles driving in all weathers. Anyone is willing to commute for 3 hours everyday needs to check their sanity.

 

This means you either buy a small battery car and enjoy tax free motoring, occasionally pay rapid charging tax on long journeys. OR you buy a big battery car because you are covering the miles. Combined with rapid charging tax, more you drive and put high demand on the grid (via rapid charging), the more tax you pay. The local commuting EV's are ultracheap to run, the big mileage drivers will pay similar to current diesel price per mile.

 

Of course there's still the problem of those unable to charge at home. Again, penalising the "have not"s. But battery production is the most damaging part of BEV in its lifecycle, people simply can't keep buying bigger and bigger batteries. Even if they become cheaper as production ramps up.

^^^^^

There seems to be little enthusiasm amongst government revenue collectors for the beckoning (threatening?) ZEVs.

 

We have, out here, a level of cynical and devious incompetence effectively sponsored by Rupert Murdoch’s media and further empowered by the dumbing down of loudmouth shockjocks. 

VW propose EV sales online and software updates also apparently -

http://europe.autonews.com/article/20181016/ANE/181019683/vw-will-overhaul-dealership-and-sales-arm-in-ev-push?cciid=email-ane-daily

BMW’s battery recycling plans -

https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1119405_bmw-sets-up-end-to-end-battery-recycling-in-europe

Quote

No timeline was given to develop BMW's end-to-end battery recycling system. 

 

I may be wrong but lots of talk about lithium battery recycling, but nobody actually seems to be doing it or worked out exactly how to.

 

Tesla says they recycle, is there real evidence that this is true, and not just "working with partners"?

 

 

 

 

1 minute ago, xman said:

 

I may be wrong but lots of talk about lithium battery recycling, but nobody actually seems to be doing it or worked out exactly how to.

 

Tesla says they recycle, is there real evidence that this is true, and not just "working with partners"?

 

 

 

 

I would expect it’s going to be a second generation industry due to limited supply if nothing else.

Prius taxis in Melbourne have seen their batteries last around 10 years.  As the replacement price declines so the ‘old’ supply will increase, I assume.

Don't 10 yr old Priuses use NiH batteries?

 

3 minutes ago, xman said:

Don't 10 yr old Priuses use NiH batteries?

 

No idea, but whatever they use lasts longer than many suggested.

Horrific mobility scooter death -

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-21/man-dies-in-mobility-scooter-fire-in-geraldton/10401782

Difficult to see how some brave soul couldn't pull him free.

 

Sadly, when EV's are the norm, we may see similar tragedies from time to time. Not every battery will be built to Tesla standards, even Samsung get it wrong, not to mention cheaper chinese brands.

Edited 21 October, 20187 yr by xman

CNBC   changing their tune ?   things must be happening. 

This topic has now been moved to the new ‘Electric Vehicles’ section. 

What's happened to all the fuel cell vehicles, I thought these would be preferable to ones with nasty Cobalt containing batteries?

Even Sweden has a battery factory -

https://electrek.co/2018/10/22/northvolt-battery-module-factory-europe/

 

and Caterpillar to finance Fisker’s solid state battery development -

https://electrek.co/2018/10/22/fisker-secures-investment-caterpillar-solid-state-battery-technology/

Edited 23 October, 20187 yr by Ryeman

1 hour ago, io1901 said:

What's happened to all the fuel cell vehicles, I thought these would be preferable to ones with nasty Cobalt containing batteries?

 

Just 10 years away, like fusion reactors.....

 

Even LPG would be good, but no interest in properly designing cars engines to use it. 

12 minutes ago, Ryeman said:

Even Sweden has a battery factory -

 

 

Handy for polar bear/lapland visitor market

1 minute ago, xman said:

 

Just 10 years away, like fusion reactors.....

 

Even LPG would be good, but no interest in properly designing cars engines to use it. 

LPG seems to still exist on the continent via Opel AFAIK

Quite popular in eastern europe.