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Top Speed of a £175,000 car?

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Surely this cannot be true?  It's my all time favourite car, if i had the cash I'd buy one tomorrow.  But when I looked at it as i was using it as an example for something the top speed caught my eye:

 

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118mph in a car like that! I've done 136mph in my MK2 Fabia VRS so that mean i'd be able to catch it up eventually? Yes it might be a lot quicker getting to it's top speed (ford) but surely cant be that far behind?  It does sound daft really, a 1.4TSI (180bhp) Fabia no modifications costing only £17-18k (when new) compared to a £175K car. 

 

 

I just can't get my head round it.

Edited by Naths vRS

A 'Rally Car'  a Proper Rally Car.  Geared as you want.

@ 3 Min 20 for the Figures on the car in the Vid.

(& Loving the Quattro Sport. Green with White wheel porn..)

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As said, it's all down to the gearing.

 

Low geared = fast acceleration but lower top speed.

Surely this cannot be true?  It's my all time favourite car, if i had the cash I'd buy one tomorrow.  But when I looked at it as i was using it as an example for something the top speed caught my eye:

 

118mph in a car like that! I've done 136mph in my MK2 Fabia VRS so that mean i'd be able to catch it up eventually? Yes it might be a lot quicker getting to it's top speed (ford) but surely cant be that far behind?  It does sound daft really, a 1.4TSI (180bhp) Fabia no modifications costing only £17-18k (when new) compared to a £175K car. 

 

 

I just can't get my head round it.

 

I cant find much info on the details, but I can see one article stating the price was £50,000? Cant see £175,000 anywhere.

 

Aside from anything else the price of a car has no correlation to the top speed of it :D 

There are a couple presently being offered for sale at £225,000 & £260,000

http://joemacari.com

The Lancia Integrale Evo2 would make me Larry.

(Can we start Crowd Funding to buy it and raffle it to a Lucky Briskoda Member?)

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I cant find much info on the details, but I can see one article stating the price was £50,000? Cant see £175,000 anywhere.

 

Aside from anything else the price of a car has no correlation to the top speed of it :D

 

It was on an auction site, and yeah might sound like i'm coming across like that but didn't intend too. But you would've thought a car of that era/spec would be greater than 118mph.

 

 

 

 

So would the Fabia eventually catch it up?

As stated previously, it was designed for rallying. The only time you would be approaching 175mph+ in a rally car is if you came off at the top of a mountain.

I remember a mag doing a 1/4mile run of the fastest accelerating car at the time....

 

Pikes peak challenge car, 0-60 in the link of an eye but gave up on the 1/4 mile as halfway there it hit max speed....

 

Gearing is what counts on a twisty back road, top speed is only good for straights

 

PS I know someone who has an original one of those RS200 evo with the optional thinly painted blue stripes....

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As stated previously, it was designed for rallying. The only time you would be approaching 175mph+ in a rally car is if you came off at the top of a mountain.

 

No ones mentioned 175MPH

This was at Perth Motorsport Show a few years back, no idea if a Replica, i thought to was the real McCoy.

(Edit just looked at the Reg No.)

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What is it?

Ah  a Honda!

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118mph in a car like that! I've done 136mph in my MK2 Fabia VRS so that mean i'd be able to catch it up eventually? Yes it might be a lot quicker getting to it's top speed (ford) but surely cant be that far behind?  It does sound daft really, a 1.4TSI (180bhp) Fabia no modifications costing only £17-18k (when new) compared to a £175K car. 

 

 

I just can't get my head round it.

 

Easy...quoted 0-60 in 3.6 secs with 4wd & top end suspension.....try beating that down a back road in a Fabia...

 

It's a very rare iconic car...=££££

You certainly would need to spend some to do that.

Maybe £5,000 on a 2010 car and another £1,750 would do it.

(Obviously the bike rider was not trying. & it is not a back road.)

You could watch the Mk2 vRS Stage 2 + at the Ring vs the 911.

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Be all down to gearing....that will be using its sprint gearing set....on a demanding stage I am sure it wouldn't need to go in excess of 112mph.

Geared for tarmac it'll do 160/170mph I should think....though you'd vapourise If you hit anything :-)

It was on an auction site, and yeah might sound like i'm coming across like that but didn't intend too. But you would've thought a car of that era/spec would be greater than 118mph.

 

 

 

 

So would the Fabia eventually catch it up?

 

 

Yes the Fabia would eventually catch up and even overtake, why it is so hard to believe? No offense meant but it is only basic "how gearboxes work" stuff after all. Whether that makes it any less desirable or special I highly doubt as it's a car built for rally, not highway cruising. A good car is not necessarily one with crazy top end speed, this was probably a reference we had as kids?

 

You could obviously make it go as fast as 180mph if you wanted, that you have to be sure of. But in its rally setup, no, no reason to waste gearing on top end.

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As others have said, it'll be down to the gearing. The Fabia would catch it up for sure, if not for the extra few MPH top end, the less frequent fuel stops :D 

 

The car has sold for that kind of money because it's rare and a special Ford. 

 

A Rolls Royce Silver Ghost would go for £250k + and only do about 60mph! 

No ones mentioned 175MPH

It was meant in jest.

 

Just like your statement when you asked if a car travelling at 136mph would overtake a vehicle travelling at 118mph was meant to be taken. ;)

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It was meant in jest.

 

Just like your statement when you asked if a car travelling at 136mph would overtake a vehicle travelling at 118mph was meant to be taken. ;)

 

ah so you're the class clown then?

ah so you're the class clown then?

I think you may be mistaking me for my cousin who used to be a Circus Manager. When required he would get involved in some of the routines, including the clowns.

He now works for Police Scotland.

I'll leave you to come up with your own punchlines to that one.

As above its a rally car not a supercar.

Quick blasts are all is needed.

Yup most of my stage rally cars have been geared to do around 100-120 max. The 2.0 felly was geared for 135 as I couldn't get a low enough final drive for it (pulled 120 in Radnor in that scared me to death lol)

Estelle would do 105 at 7000rpm and my vrs will do 115. No need to have anything above that in a rally car it's all about point to point acceleration.

Has anyone mentioned its probably down to the gear ratios yet?

 

Lancia Delta S4 is better btw :)

 

Has anyone mentioned its probably down to the gear ratios yet?
 
Lancia Delta S4 is better btw :)

 

 

Nahhh, you can't beat that Audi 5 pot madness!

This reads like a mk1 octavia fuel filter replacement thread... feckin clips :D

Easy...quoted 0-60 in 3.6 secs with 4wd & top end suspension.....try beating that down a back road in a Fabia...

 

It's a very rare iconic car...=££££

 

This.

 

 

 

Has anyone mentioned its probably down to the gear ratios yet?
 
Lancia Delta S4 is better btw :)

 

 

Nah, Quattro S1 FTW.

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